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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Verify your method of separation so we don't vilify incorrectly.We need to be defended.
originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: neformore
No obviously not all Muslims are terrorists but unfortunately because of their ideology all Muslims are potential terrorists.
originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: TechniXcality
You do realise that Goebbels would be proud of that line, don't you?
It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.
Jefferson reported the conversation to Secretary of Foreign Affairs John Jay, who submitted the Ambassador's comments and offer to Congress. Jefferson argued that paying tribute would encourage more attacks. Although John Adams agreed with Jefferson, he believed that circumstances forced the U.S. to pay tribute until an adequate navy could be built. The U.S. had just fought an exhausting war, which put the nation deep in debt. Federalist and Anti-Federalist forces argued over the needs of the country and the burden of taxation. Jefferson's own Democratic-Republicans and anti-navalists believed that the future of the country lay in westward expansion, with Atlantic trade threatening to siphon money and energy away from the new nation on useless wars in the Old World. The U.S. paid Algiers the ransom, and continued to pay up to $1 million per year over the next 15 years for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. A $1 million payment in ransom and tribute to the privateering states would have amounted to approximately 10% of the U.S. government's annual revenues in 1800.[
Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination!
By Don Boys, Ph.D.
Published Nov 17, 2004
deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.
It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.” One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know.
The word "al-Taqiyya”literally means: "Concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury.”A one-word translation would be "Dissimulation."
The above definition must be elaborated upon before any undertaking of this topic is to ensue. Although correct, the definition suffers from an apparent generalization, and lacks some ndamental details that should be construed:
First, the concealment of one’s beliefs does not necessitate an ABANDONMENT of these beliefs. The distinction between "concealment”and "abandonment”MUST be noted here.
Second, there are numerous exceptions to the above definition, and they MUST be judged according to the situation that one is placed in. As such, one should NOT make a narrow-minded generalization that encompasses all situations, thereby failing to fully absorb the spirit of the definition.
Third, the word "beliefs”and/or "convictions”does NOT necessarily mean "religious”beliefs and/or convictions.
With the above in mind, it becomes evident that a better, and more accurate definition of "al-Taqiyya”is "diplomacy.”The true spirit of "al- Taqiyya”is better embodied in the single word "diplomacy”because it encompasses a comprehensive spectrum of behaviors that serve to further the vested interests of all parties involved.
The civilized people who bow to ONE God all believe that God is impartial and one for all living beings.
When this caliphate will be the size of Russia you will fear.
originally posted by: neformore
Kristallnacht: Also known as The Night of the Broken Glass. On this night, November 9, 1938, almost 200 synagogues were destroyed, over 8,000 Jewish shops were sacked and looted, and tens of thousands of Jews were removed to concentration camps.
Back in the late 1920's and through the 1930's the National Socialist German Workers' Party embalked on a campaign of monstrous proprtions.
Back in the 20's, Germany was a broken nation. They had lost the first world war, their economy was ruined, their military smashed and stripped bare. The people of that country needed a focus. They needed someone to blame and some clever, twisted bigots decided to use that to their own ends.
Through propaganda, carefully placed words, outright lies and fear mongering a public was manipulated and people began to take their frustration out on the Jews. Immigration, financial corruption, religious beliefs and all manner of other issues/practices were cited. Lies were repeated until they became "truth". Eventually a whole society lost its collective conscience, dropped into a state of apathy and then the country turned into a cesspit of hate and people stood by as despicable things began to happen, and those things then snowballed into genocide.
I wasn't alive during those times - I'm fairly sure its unlikely that anyone reading this was, but I am a student of history - particularly the second world war era, and recent events have made me sit up, take notice, and have made my skin crawl.
You see - its happening again. Albeit in different circumstances.
"Turn the middle east to glass"
"Send them home"
"They aren't like us, they have no place being here"
"A good muslim is a dead muslim"
"All they want to do is take our jobs/take our women/kill us"
"They're all the same"
Such things seem to be becoming commonplace on blogs, on facebook and other social media, on some news programs and even here on ATS.
Our society is losing its humanity again.
Yes, I understand 9/11 (although most people here think it was an inside job it seems). I understand Al Qaeda. I understand ISIS. I understand the middle east situation. I understand the paranoia and the fear of things that may seem different.
I understand that there are people out there in the world who wish to do others harm, under the guise of a perversion of a religion. I get that. I don't want to see those people in my world. I have no problem whatsoever with the armed forces of any nation being used to bring cold blooded killers to justice. None at all.
But those people do not represent all muslims - despite what some of the carefully crafted fear mongering propaganda out there will try and tell you.
You know the kind I mean. The propaganda akin to that the Nazi's used about the Jews in the 30's.
The kind that makes people out to be sub-human.
The kind that makes all kinds of assertions about motives.
The kind that deliberately tries to set up differences.
The kind that seizeson the comments of an extremist and tries to make out its a common view.
The kind that singles out one section of society and tries to make out that it is responsible for every kind of problem imagineable.
The kind that picks up on individual issues and tries to make out that all people see it that way.
The kind that gets spread virally on social media out of ignorance, fear and malice. The propaganda du jour.
The kind that leads people to begin to casually accept it.
The kind that leeches and seeps into collective conciousness.
The kind that leads to "reprisals", to witch hunts, to forced segregation, to the wearing of symbols, to tattoo's, to ghetto's to camps to gas chambers...
Hopefully it won't get that far.
If we, as "responsible" nations in the west wish to take the high ground, to confront the extremists and the killers, to bring them to justice, to prevent the spread of their brand of hatred (which is, I believe, a worthy cause) then we have to be better as a society as well as being better militarily.
We have to understand that the actions of a few do not represent the actions of the many - and lets be clear on this - there are 1.6 billion muslims on the planet and all but a very small percentage of those people live a peacful existence.
We have to be better. We have to resist the temptation to slide into the cesspit.
We have to avoid another Kristallnacht.
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: neformore
There's one big difference between the US and nazi Germany, though.
Muslims are actually attacking us.