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Kristallnacht : A warning from history

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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

If he knew he was "going home" it wasn't really a sacrifice it was a release.

While on earth he suffered the frailties of man, once released he regained the powers of the Trinity.

Hence my Powerball reference.




posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 07:51 PM
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Jews was a comparatively small community. The same is not true of Muslims. There are 1.6 billion Muslims today. They will tear European society apart and make governance a nightmare right in the heart of Europe.

Europe has no idea what is in store for it.

When Jesus Christ gave a preach of love and kindness, there was a reason to it. If you want to live a good life, the most important ingredient is peace. And peace come from love and sharing, not from hating.

The biggest problem with Islam is HATE. Islam is full of HATE.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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Europe is given to self-doubts and self-loathing on everything Islamic.

The reasons are not difficult to see. The West has used Muslims as a tool for two centuries. The Muslims were a great help for building Western empire. There is a deep feeling of guilt in Western mind.

However Islam and Christianity cannot mix, whatever anybody tries. Christianity came out of the civilized parts of Asia, and Islam came out of the tribal/backward parts. There is a sea of difference between the two.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

interestingly enough

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation20



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: neformore
Except in the 20's the public didn't have beheadings posted all over social media with the perpetrators proudly displaying their murderous religious beliefs for all to witness.

Big difference between accusing a group of people of evil and a group of people demonstrating their evil so that there is no doubt what they are all about.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: neformore

Ummm...what a purely hateful thing to say, you should apologize and moderate yourself out of this thread.....

Is it your position as super mod that makes you think you can equate the victims of a vile religion to those actually perpetrating mass murders and rape...you...sir, are more akin to that which you champion than someone who has suffered under the yoke you protest for...

"No better than Isis"......for having lived through and witnessed the barbarity of those that you personally hold in such high esteem...

Wow............just wow...




YouSir



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: Vrill

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: neformore

Its not the people or their ethnicity its their ideology as a whole that needs to wither in history's sands. The Muslim dislike and distrust is not artificial it is through experience and ideology. Blaming the West is getting to be a very old tune and it was fun for a while but im done. We need to call this ideology what it is and that is evil.


I agree 100%.

Honestly, I wont blame people anymore for stereotyping Muslims/Islam and doing the whole "Guilt By Association" with them. Its starting to be a very warranted way of thinking.



Yea and warning folks about getting all wound up for a Kristallnacht sort of retaliation is simply an effort to keep common sense in check. The Jews were not cutting folks heads off or threatening in any way in a militant fashion. This Kristallnacht thing here is just stupid misapplication......coercion, fear porn, bullsh*t.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: GargIndia

Perhaps the HINDIS should regain their martial prominence then?



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: 200Plus

Yes THAT is true ,and it is WHY we can self sacrifice for others more easily than most,you just defined your answer.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: 200Plus
IF one believes the same then THROUGH his act we can do the same but WITHOUT HIM?
No.

ACCORDING TO MY faith.which was Methodist
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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Vrill

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: neformore

Its not the people or their ethnicity its their ideology as a whole that needs to wither in history's sands. The Muslim dislike and distrust is not artificial it is through experience and ideology. Blaming the West is getting to be a very old tune and it was fun for a while but im done. We need to call this ideology what it is and that is evil.


I agree 100%.

Honestly, I wont blame people anymore for stereotyping Muslims/Islam and doing the whole "Guilt By Association" with them. Its starting to be a very warranted way of thinking.



Yea and warning folks about getting all wound up for a Kristallnacht sort of retaliation is simply an effort to keep common sense in check. The Jews were not cutting folks heads off or threatening in any way in a militant fashion. This Kristallnacht thing here is just stupid misapplication......coercion, fear porn, bullsh*t.


I try to look at both sides of a situation but in the case of Isis there actions have gone well beyond what civilization should tolerate. and they need to be irradiated either through force or education. If Islam doesnt get involved it will be by force.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: kitzik
a reply to: buster2010

When they say "Itbah al yahud" i can't be fooled lol.
I can't translate some subtleties, but if you think that Memri TV translations are made up, learn Arabic yourself and you will hear what you don't want to believe is true.

The first link you posted is dead and the second video he never says "kill the Jews". Sounds like you need to brush up on your Arabic as well.
Jon Stewart and MEMRI TV: After years of exposing neocon propaganda, Jon Stewart is now reporting it as “news”


In 2007, CNN correspondent Atika Shubert and Arabic translators accused MEMRI of mistranslating portions of a Palestinian children’s television programme.“Media watchdog MEMRI translates one caller as saying – quote – ‘We will annihilate the Jews,”‘ said Shubert. “But, according to several Arabic speakers used by CNN, the caller actually says ‘The Jews are killing us.”‘ Several commentators, such as CNN‘s Arabic department, have claimed that the transcript of the April 13 show (2007) provided by MEMRI contains numerous translation errors and undue emphases. Brian Whitaker, the Middle East editor for the Guardian newspaper (UK), wrote in a blog for the newspaper that in the translation of the video, showing Farfour eliciting political comments from a young girl named Sanabel, the MEMRI transcript misrepresents the segment, by attributing a sentence said by Farfour, (“I’ll shoot”), to the child, and ignoring the child’s statement (“I’m going to draw a picture”). Whitaker further criticized MEMRI’s translation. He and others commented that a statement uttered by the same child, (“We’re going to [or want to] resist”), had been given an unduly aggressive interpretation by MEMRI as (“We want to fight”). Also, where MEMRI translated the girl as saying the highly controversial remark (“We will annihilate the Jews”), Whitaker and others, including Arabic speakers used by CNN, insist that based on careful listening to the low quality video clip, the girl is variously interpreted as saying, “The Jews [will] shoot us” or “The Jews are killing us.” Other sources have also pointed out that MEMRI’s translation “I will commit martyrdom” should more accurately have been “I’ll become a martyr” – a passive statement rather than an active/aggressive threat.

I can find many more examples of MEMRI twisting peoples words around. The most famous one is where they claimed the last president of Iran said he would wipe Israel off the map.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
a reply to: neformore
Except in the 20's the public didn't have beheadings posted all over social media with the perpetrators proudly displaying their murderous religious beliefs for all to witness.

Big difference between accusing a group of people of evil and a group of people demonstrating their evil so that there is no doubt what they are all about.

What social media was there in the 20's?



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: GargIndia



The biggest problem with Islam is HATE. Islam is full of HATE.

Islam is not full of hate. If they hate anyone it's because other nations invade their lands, kill their people and install brutal dictators to rule over them. When others do this what do you expect for them to welcome them with open arms?


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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: Rustami

originally posted by: Rustami

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: DogMeat

The Christian Bible also says kill non believers. So Christians are just as bad as Muslims by your own admission.



That's a lie. Does or did the Christian leader (Jesus) murder anyone?

1 John 3 and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

What religious leaders did though?


guilt by association
phrase of guilt
1.
guilt ascribed to someone not because of any evidence but because of their association with an offender.


Romans 6 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey


Still waiting on an answer. Did Jesus murder anyone?


Did he murder anyone? Perhaps not, but others were certainly encouraged to kill in the name of Jesus, by Jesus

Matthew 10:34 Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Matthew 15: 1-9 : 1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.Luke 19:27 But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence.

Jesus also killed a fig tree for having the temerity to not be bearing figs out of season.

18 Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered.

Bill Maher has good things to say about religion, and he certainly does not give the impression Christianity is any better than Islam, so for a bit of a light interval...


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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:50 PM
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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite

No. It shows an Islamophobe wanting to spread hate pandering to an ignorant audience.



Nothing of the sort. For some inexplicable reason, you and a few others here are trying to whip up the boards by accusing them of that. I'd have thought moderators would have known better, but I was very, very wrong.



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