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"It's easy to demonise Putin," – and he's not a Hitler

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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 05:01 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Same claims have been made by US and other countries in the past, so it can`t be tied to Nazi Germany alone...

...nice try though.




posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 05:06 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

Same claims have been made by US and other countries in the past, so it can`t be tied to Nazi Germany alone...

...nice try though.


Provide an example or two, please.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 05:11 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

You were the one who was educated, now weren`t you ?

For someone who claims he`s educated you have a really small knowledge, so go use your own link :

I already told you to do your homework b4 posting
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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

You were the one who was educated, now weren`t you ?

For someone who claims he`s educated who have really small knowledge, so go use your own link :

I already told you to do your homework b4 posting


So, you can't find anything to backup your claim? I win. You also seem to be using LMGTFY wrong.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 05:23 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Your not even winning the Google and education trophy :

Fail 1

Fail 2



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 06:06 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

Your not even winning the Google and education trophy :

Fail 1

Fail 2


1. Leader of country A claims members of ethnic group A are being persecuted in country B. Leader of country A claims only humanitarian thing to do is to send troops into country B to protect the persecuted minority.

Now, let A = Germany and B = Poland.. Is the statement True or False? True
Now, let A = NATO and B = Kosovo. Is the statement True or False?
Leader of NATO claims members of ethnic group NATO are being persecuted in Kosovo. Leader of NATO claims only humanitarian thing to do is to send troops into Kosovo to protect the persecuted minority. False. NATO did not claim that the Kosovars were ethnically NATO.

Your analogy is false.

Country A mounts a propaganda offensive in country B. Country B holds a referendum to join country A. Country A immediately annexes country B, increasing its territory.

Now, let A = Germany and B = Austria. Is the statement True or False?
Now, let A = NATO and B = Kosovo. Is the statement True or False?

NATO mounts a propaganda offensive in Kosovo. Kosovo holds a referendum to join NATO. NATO immediately annexes Kosovo, increasing its territory.

Kosovo has not joined NATO, your analogy is false.

2.Leader of country A claims members of ethnic group A are being persecuted in country B. Leader of country A claims only humanitarian thing to do is to send troops into country B to protect the persecuted minority.

Now, let A = Germany and B = Poland. Is the statement True or False? True.
Now, let A = Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States and B = Syria. Is the statement True or False?

The leaders of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States claim Qatarans, Arabs, Turks and Americans are being persecuted in Syria. The leaders of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States claims the only humanitarian thing to do is to send troops into Syria the protect the persecuted Qatarans, Arabs, Turks and Americans.

Not even you can believe that is a reasonable summary of the civil war in Syria, so False.

Country A mounts a propaganda offensive in country B. Country B holds a referendum to join country A. Country A immediately annexes country B, increasing its territory.

Now, let A = Germany and B = Austria. Is the statement True or False? True.
Now, let A = Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States and B = Syria. Is the statement True or False?

Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States mount a propaganda offensive in Syria. Syria holds a referendum to join Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United States immediately annex Syria, increasing their territory.

Another spectacular fail. Your analogy does not hold... or has Assad held a referendum we have not heard about?



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

All that to redeem yourself, to try to make to let it look like you`re smart again and to wanting to keep on your Putin = Hitler fantasy...kudos for trying !



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien




and he's not a Hitler


Your right he's not a Hitler, as he is a Putin.

Although he is acting and following the way Hitler did during his run with Germany.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Shouldn`t he have annexed Georgia and Eastern Ukraine to act in the same manner ?



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra




With the unrest China is currently facing in there west and south, in addition tot he massive issues in Hong Kong, will result in 1 of 2 things for China. A massive crackdown of the likes we last saw during Tiananmen square or the collapse of the Chinese government as we know it now.


Glad such events are happening in China. That would make them more close to nearby nations like Russia and India. A massive crackdown is what is needed. Everything is just fine in China. Chinese government will not crash as there is no other government known to them for last 70 years. Clever Chinese know how Russia and others suffered from such sudden change of system via a shock therapy advised by the West.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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Shouldn`t he have annexed Georgia and Eastern Ukraine to act in the same manner ?


No not at all, as Hitler didn't annex every country they invaded.

You do understand that Hitler annexed countries under the guise of reuniting German citizens in those countries with Germany, and to protect them from persecution.

And is that not the same reason Russia invaded Crimea and eventually Eastern Ukraine?

Why yes it is....



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

All that to redeem yourself, to try to make to let it look like you`re smart again and to wanting to keep on your Putin = Hitler fantasy...kudos for trying !


I repeat: you have not refuted the argument. You lose.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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Putin has been pretty solid for his own country.. not so much for other countries. Why so many people here want to vilify the U.S. and praise Putin sort of boggles my mind. If Obama or any U.S. President did half the things Putin has, you'd be up in arms about what an evil, wicked person he is.

Half the time, it's as if I am posting on a Russian website when I come here. Praise for RT! Praise for Putin! lol..



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit
Putin has been pretty solid for his own country.. not so much for other countries. Why so many people here want to vilify the U.S. and praise Putin sort of boggles my mind. If Obama or any U.S. President did half the things Putin has, you'd be up in arms about what an evil, wicked person he is.

Half the time, it's as if I am posting on a Russian website when I come here. Praise for RT! Praise for Putin! lol..


You can only wish they did half the things, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libia, Syria, Ukraine, etc. are all done by US and its presidents, so what are you talking about...they are freaking much worse ?



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 10:08 PM
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Bottomline is for them Putin is bad because he defended the interests of Russia.

Obama, Bush, Clinton, Kerry are good because they went on offensive and changed regimes in half dozen countries, inciting gruesome civil wars in atleast 3 middle eastern countries (Iraq, Syria, Libya) which killed nearly 1 million people, injured and maimed another several millions and displaced and destituted more than 10s of millions.

There is a saying "Minds lacking EMPATHY are the abodes of EVIL". Lack of EMPATHY in the US/West foreign policies results in EVIL consequences for vulnerable people of the third world nations. Forget about serial killers who do away a dozen or so people over the years. These western leaders are Serial Genociders and destroyers of societies which are somehow surviving hand to mouth. Totally out of words of shame for them.




posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 10:25 PM
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You do know the government of Crimea asked for protection against the Nazi-groups in the Ukraine so they could have fair elections. There was no uproar in Crimea, but only a democratic election, so that doesn`t count as being just like Hitler his playbook.

And how about the Eastern Ukrainians who were defending themselves against Nazi groups who wanted to ethnic cleanse Eastern Ukraine of Ethnic Russians ?

And did Russia accepted NovoRossiya into the RF after they got the request ?

No, so another not following of Hitler his playbook.

The Eastern Ukrainians had every right to be fearful and to defends themselves as now comes clear :

Russia insists on probe into mass burials outside Donetsk



The people were likely to have been executed as suggested by their hands tied behind the back, “finishing shots” in the head and spent 9-mm cartridges near the bodies, the ministry said.

“The information available at this moment suggests that civilians were cold-bloodedly killed by Ukrainian troops. It has been reported that several days before the discovery this area was left by the servicemen from the 25th Air Mobile Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and Aidar Battalion who had held it prior to that,” the ministry said.

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New burial site found near Donetsk



Militias in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) have found another burial site near Donetsk, DPR First Vice-Premier Andrei Purgin said on Sunday.

The mass grave was found near the village of Nizhnyaya Krynka where a battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard had been stationed two weeks ago. “Another burial site has been discovered. It is located near the village of Nizhnyaya Krynka. Exhumation will help establish how many bodies are there and how these people died,” Purgin said.

This area was previously controlled by the Ukrainian security forces and fighters of the Aidar battalion of the National Guard. The whole area will be examined. The militia say they found other graves that have not been opened up.

Source

But you won`t here this in our news, now won`t you ?

That was the whole reason they started to declare themselves as independent and started to defend themselves, because they knew this was coming...and now you know what you guys have been cheering on...ethnic cleansing !

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posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: victor7

You`re only good if you defend US world domination, it doesn`t matter what the cost of lives is...

US world domination is the only right religion !



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

You are incorrect and no amount of revision will change that.

Crimea did not request Russian assistance to hold elections. Russia invaded Ukraine and occupied Crimea in order to annex Crimea under the guise of fraudulent elections.

Even Russia's own civil rights Presidents council acknowledged the election results in Crimea were fraudulent.



posted on Sep, 28 2014 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

They asked for protection to uphold peace.

And we are to believe Ukrainian television and an institute which has Putin critics in it who just estimated things ?



posted on Sep, 29 2014 @ 01:08 AM
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This is a very interesting (though conspiratorial) article saying that Putin is just another ally to the globalist type of one world government agenda - and while kinda crazy it makes some sense.

Putins East vs Globalist West

I think whether by choice or manipulation, Putin is playing into the hands of the united world idea. He like every other world leader act opposed in public while laughing and drinking together in private, and I mean hell he and Obama had military exercises together? The whole east-west dynamic is a sham. Its more all the wealthy people vs the poor/diminishing middle class...



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