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Following Reports of Forced Sterilization of Female Prison Inmates, California Passes Ban

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posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 04:33 PM
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That's a good move with signing the bill in considering the rather strong history of eugenics in California, kinda shocked it went through.

In total, 20,108 people were sterilized in the state of California prior to 1964. California had by far the highest number of sterilizations in the United States (one third of all sterilizations nationwide). The numbers of men and women sterilized were about equal. Of the total sterilizations, almost 60% were considered mentally ill and more than 35% were considered mentally deficient. Men and women of Mexican origin represented between 7% and 8% of those sterilized (Stern, Eugenic Nation, p. 111). African Americans made up 1% of California’s population but accounted for 4% of the sterilizations (Stern, Eugenic Nation, p. 111). However, because of the sensitive nature of sterilization records, many are difficult to access or have been altered. This suggests that the total known number of sterilizations may be conservative compared to the actual number (Stern, "From Legislation to Lived Experience," p. 97).
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posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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How many women are convicted rapists?



posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 04:54 PM
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I haven't heard about this until now. I may get some backlash for this, but depending on what the person is in for, I see no problem with sterilization. The same would go for men in my opinion. Some people just shouldn't have kids.

HOWEVER, if this is just to prevent pregnancy while in prison, I have to wonder why the people getting them pregnant aren't being punished. I mean... It takes two to make a baby.



posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
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How many women are convicted rapists?



Do you know what a eunuch is? I think it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that I was referring to male criminals. My post did reference males and females.

Reading comprehension. You need it.



posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: AnteBellum


California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) signed a bill Thursday prohibiting forced sterilization in prisons. A report last year said that female inmates at facilities were being coercively sterilized as recently as 2010.
Nearly 150 female inmates were sterilized between 2006 and 2010 by doctors under contract with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, according to the Center for Investigative Reporting. A May state audit reported that some of the tubal ligations in that time were done illegally without informed consent, according to Justice Now, an advocacy group.
“Pressuring a vulnerable population into making permanent reproductive choices without informed consent is unacceptable, and violates our most basic human rights,” said state Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson (D), the bill’s sponsor, in a statement.
Kelli Dillon, a Los Angeles domestic violence counselor, said she experienced forced sterilization when she was 24 years old in a California prison and said the bill “will protect the rightful reproductive capacity of women inside prison.”
“No one should have their opportunity to be a mother taken away or decided for them,” she said in a statement.
The bill prohibits sterilization as a form of birth control except for certain medical emergencies and was passed unanimously by the California Senate and Assembly.
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WTF! Am I the only one that hasn't heard of this until now?
Well I'd like to go on an expletive filled rant right now but maybe I need to look at the details of this a bit closer before I pass complete judgement. I am going to look around and try to see if there is any information as to the specifics of these cases.

Right now though this seems to wrong on many different levels.
I you have any other information as to this please post.

Thanks, AB


Look at the picture. What color are the inmates? It is no surprise or secret that the majority of inmates on the new plantation system are black. So why haven't you heard about it? Because they are sterilizing black women, that's why. And we all know that isn't going to make the news.



posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Well, that would be one thing Jerry Brown has done right. I have always been against forced sterilization of any kind. It harkens too much to the Margaret Sanger/Rockefeller days of the American Birth Control League, and has continued to this day in ways we may not have heard about. It is good this is being exposed. I applaud Brown signing and whoever came up with the bill in defense of women's self control of their own bodies. Forced sterilization is a horrendous abuse of women and men by the State.

Who's behind it? Ultimately Rockefeller et al Club of Rome Agenda 21 Elites


Women do not have self control over their own bodies. If they did they wouldn't have to be over 35, with their husband's written and oral consent, and have two children just to get their tubes tied if they wanted it. They wouldn't have to have Roe V. Wade and then have to fight to keep it "as is". They also wouldn't have to fight not be to guinea pigs and get cancer from several types of birth control that isn't very effective on anything other than tearing the body down. Yet men can go and have a vasectomy without anyone's permission at age 18.

There it is.



posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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I hate to agree with you but I have to and things will get messy if I don't explain well.

First off sterilization is different then castration, not that you misunderstood.

IMO all pedophiles/rapists should be castrated, then sterilized for repeat offenses. Now with that said people serving life with out parole should be sterilized, not castrated. I've probably left out a few specific circumstances so don't flame for that.

The problem is what's right for one must be right for all as defined by the law. At this point in time I don't know if it's even possible to get all sides on the same page.

Sorry, I'm on my phone tonight, which makes posting hell or I'd be more descript.
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posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 08:07 PM
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I agree with you also but more idealistically, unfortunately realism tends to force my hand when making decisions such as this.

What was done in the op was absolutely wrong but the idea might not be all bad. It all depends on circumstances and that's usually where I get frustrated with the US legal system.

People like Trump should get worse, even though I knew Trumps chef and he said the man is very different then what he wants people to think he's like. Trump gave my friend his black amex card with his unlimited credit attached for a week as a wedding gift. Trump then told him if he didn't spend at least $50k he was going to make him pay it back. There are others though such as Bernard Madoff that should be hung by their. . .
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posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 09:30 PM
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" ....targeted towards inmates who had served multiple prison terms. " Well at least they picked the right people. What a great way to grow up, hey, my mom's a career criminal. Seriously, some people should at least STOP breeding. And the pressure was, "look into having it done" after 5 kids? Anybody with 5 kids should look into having it done. This doesn't sound like coercion, but just common sense. a reply to: AnteBellum



posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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Yah, anyone with half a brain can read the heading of this thread which refers to FEMALE prisoners. Thanks! Neither men nor women should be subject to forced sterilization in my humble opinion. Just shades of fascism yaknow?

Fascism is Totalitarianism, and this is the plan by the Elites

People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized

zombietime.com...

Oh, and yes I do know what a Eunuch is, and does it matter when it comes to forced sterilization of inmates? But in the event you happen to be preaching that it is godly to make a man a eunuch on behalf of society, I am not so sure your case is made.

Verse 12. - Our Lord proceeds to note three classes of men to whom it is given to abstain from marriage. There are some eunuchs, which were so born. The first class consists of those who are physically unable to contract matrimony, or, having the power, lack the inclination. They are compulsorily continent, and are not voluntary abstainers. Neither is the second class: those which were made eunuchs of men. Such were common enough in the harems and courts of Orientals. The cruel and infamous treatment which such persons underwent was practised against their will, and consequently their continence had no sort of merit. The third is the only class which of choice and for high reasons lived a celibate life: which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake.
biblehub.com...

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posted on Sep, 27 2014 @ 11:22 PM
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I think you misunderstand where I'm coming from. I am not Pro Choice per se, at least not on the abortion front, because that is taking another life. I find it strange that so many liberals believe that the taking of life through abortion is acceptable, yet many are the first to defend whales, or seals or polar bears. However, both abortion and forced sterilization are part of the depopulation agenda, which is disguised as "family planning".
As I posted already, the slippery slope of sterilizing "undesirables" is pretty much the same thing as microchipping illegals or pets, there is always some kind of justification for those who advocate, but the end result will be something much worse.
The Elites use all kinds of pretexts to promote their agenda. Do you think that the UN and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation should be allowed to use vaccines to sterilize populations in third world countries? I don't no matter what the depopulation specialists say.

Anyway, where did you get the over 35 bit, and did you know that Planned Parenthood is providing abortions to underage girls without parental consent and not report the fathers to authorities? Yah no I guess you didn't.


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