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originally posted by: deadeyedick
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: deadeyedick
You can't understand or handle the truth when it is told. The absolute truth is a danger to your life. If i told you then you would die.
Sorry amigo, I'm calling cheeze on that one.
Tell me the absolute truth because apparently you know what it is.
I have thrown down the gauntlet....tell me! If you back away and don't tell me, or you tell me and I don't die....
What are we to assume? You lied? Adolescent bragging? You're drunk and talking out of your ass? Do it....
Otherwise from here on out you have destroyed your own credibility...your choice
u2u me with the absolute truth now!!!
What you say would be eaqual to the man who saved the day at the slaughterhouse in ok yesterday instead of going to his truck and and getting the gun and stopping the killer it would be eaqual to him handing the gun to him and saying that knife takes too long now you can kill us all.
originally posted by: adjensen
As a converted Catholic, I'm a bit sensitive to anti-Catholic polemics, and have come to realize that most of it goes back to a book from the 1960s, Roman Catholicism, by Loraine Boettner. Which means that it's mostly rooted in ignorance, willful or not.
You may still be learning, so I'll not go all "polemic" on you. But your above quote is terribly ignorant. Loraine Boettner, who I have never even heard of, has almost nothing to do with the perceived hatred of Catholics by America.
Catholics are despised because of the inquisition, the killing of millions of people that simply disagreed with them, and the constant political upheavals and wars they called throughout history.
Once again, Fox's book of martyrs cannot be denied.
The "church" had only one choice in order to save face when compared to the Bible; Kill the opposition, or change the Bible. Thus the Catholic church made their own Bibles based on 4 to 6 corrupt manuscripts.
Watched the BBC doc……interesting, but still has a clear bias. BBC and all.
I was surprised to find that the Vatican had released access to their records (the Inquisitions were legal proceedings, and they kept meticulous records,) and when actual historians dug in, they found that perhaps as many as 5,000 had been executed over the span of 350 years.
and they never thought anyone outside the church would ever see them. In other words, we can presume them to be accurate,
And don't even get me started on the treatment of the Anabaptists by their fellow Protestants.
You can see the oldest copy of the Bible in existence here: Codex Sinaiticus, and in it, you will find a number of books that are not in your Bible, and the reason that they are not is because your Protestant forefathers didn't want you to read them. But Jesus did read them -- when he quotes Scripture in the Gospels, more often than not, he is quoting the Septuagint.
In the words of Thomas S. Freeman, one of the most important living Foxe scholars, "current scholarship has formed a more complex and nuanced estimate of the accuracy of Acts and Monuments....Perhaps [Foxe] may be most profitably seen in the same light as a barrister pleading a case for a client he knows to be innocent and whom he is determined to save. Like the hypothetical barrister, Foxe had to deal with the evidence of what actually happened, evidence that he was rarely in a position to forge.
But he would not present facts damaging to his client, and he had the skills that enabled him to arrange the evidence so as to make it conform to what he wanted it to say. Like the barrister, Foxe presents crucial evidence and tells one side of a story which must be heard. But he should never be read uncritically, and his partisan objectives should always be kept in mind."
I know my Bible well (as all Christians should) , and it does not look good for Catholics at all when you look in your Bible to see what Jesus Christ had to say about the Catholic church.
Well, that's pretty damning, indeed. Mary and the baby Jesus are just the Catholic replacements of Babylonian gods.
Well now, funny you should mention them, as I am an Anabaptist. (We call our self independent Baptists today) and I can trace our church back to Antioch, 67 AD. during the time of Paul.