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Muslim Scholars Open Letter To IS Blasting Its Ideology

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posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

But 1.6 billion is 1.6 billion 1.6 billion and then the 1.6 billion so it's okay 1.6 billion.


That makes absolutely NO sense. Do you have anything USEFUL to contribute to the discussion?




posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

Thank you for confirming that you are ignoring the true numbers over and over and over.


I am not mate. I don't need a calculator to work out that 400 million does NOT equal 1.6 billion.


If you don't consider 1/4 of a population as terrorists, then I don't have any thing more to say. You keep spewing this 1.6 billion blah blah blah. 1/4 of 1.6 billion is a lot of terrorists.


Yes it may be a lot, but it's 1/4 of the total and therefore NOT an excuse to blame all 1.6 billion of them.

Your hatred for all Muslims is clear mate. It has been clear for 3 threads now.


400 Million Muslims wouldn't mind if another person was killed over their religion. END OF STORY.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: CloudsTasteMetallic

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

400 Million equals 1/4 of your religion. Which is a disgrace to know that 1 out of 4 Muslims I run into wouldn't mind if an extreme Muslim was to kill me.


Thankyou for confirming that NOT all 1.6 billion Muslims are terrorist sympathizers, just a minority of them.

That took you what.....3 threads and countless posts?



Thank you for confirming that you are ignoring the true numbers over and over and over. If you don't consider 1/4 of a population as terrorists, then I don't have any thing more to say. You keep spewing this 1.6 billion blah blah blah. 1/4 of 1.6 billion is a lot of terrorists.


I can't help but wonder how many US Police and Military would self identify as Christians...

Food for thought.

But we separated state from church long time ago.If some christian wants to burn some "whitches" he will end up in prison or if he met me then Guantanamo will be kindergarten comparing to my methods.In muslim countries is played another song.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: OptimusCrime

Where did you get 400 million from?



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: OptimusCrime


400 Million Muslims wouldn't mind if another person was killed over their religion. END OF STORY.


Fixed it for you. You seem to be making the wrong assumption that the actions of the few are shared by the many. You keep making this very simple error.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

But 1.6 billion is 1.6 billion 1.6 billion and then the 1.6 billion so it's okay 1.6 billion.


That makes absolutely NO sense. Do you have anything USEFUL to contribute to the discussion?


If you think 1/4 of your peers could act like this towards others and all you can say is, well, the rest of us don't care, we don't do that, then the problem lies with you.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Where did you get 400 million from?


Polls from the last thread, You can look and find it if you want.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: OptimusCrime

Them polls are as bull# as what you claim to be BS...

Prove it to me with valid and verifiable information



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: KrytiesYou're making that up. Please provide a source confirming that "these filthy rich muslim nations are just putting in a token effort".



No, I won't. If you want to disprove it, it's up to you.

Go ahead.


Yeah I didn't think you could provide a link. Please stop making stuff up to suit your argument, it is unbecoming.


How would you know what is becoming of me?

As I've said, if you want to disprove my claim that arab/muslim nations aren't doing enough in this, feel free to.

I haven't made any outrageous claim, but you think I have. Therefore I gladly invite you to prove me wrong.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: OptimusCrime

If you think 1/4 of your peers could act like this towards others and all you can say is, well, the rest of us don't care, we don't do that, then the problem lies with you.


If a quarter of YOUR peers were, say, joining terrorist groups, would you blame ALL your peers for the actions of that 1/4?

No you would not.

Yet you seem intent on blaming all 1.6 billion Muslims for the actions of just a quarter of them. It's really quite simple logic mate. Is your hate for all things Muslim THAT great that you ignore simple and logical FACTS?
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posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite


Well, if the airstrikes are stopping the psychopaths...gotta do what you gotta do. If they want to cut other people's heads off, we'll blow them to smithereens and if you think I won't laugh like a mad man at their bodies being torn to shreds then you've misjudged.

Psychiatric diagnosis aside…

Waging aggressive war without just cause is a crime against Humanity. I believe Some people were hung for that in Munich, Germany.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: CloudsTasteMetallic
a reply to: Shuye

A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.
- Leviticus 20:27

Huh.


Dude why is this turning to Judaism? Honestly radical Judaism is no better and it is a crazy story all by itself, but I don't see people stoning others to death on the streets in the name of Elohim... On the other hand, Muslims still do and then they say "oh no, our religion is all about peace really".

REALLY?

That list in the OP is a f joke and if someone came with such a made up list on Judaism or Christianity I would laugh my ass off just as well.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Them polls are as bull# as what you claim to be BS...

Prove it to me with valid and verifiable information


It's been proven and sourced for you. Every time you don't like the information provided you call it BS. Sorry, Mate. Everything cannot go in your favor.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

How would you know what is becoming of me?


I was making the (clearly erroneous) assumption that posters would not lie or literally make stuff up in order to further their argument.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: xavi1000

originally posted by: CloudsTasteMetallic

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

400 Million equals 1/4 of your religion. Which is a disgrace to know that 1 out of 4 Muslims I run into wouldn't mind if an extreme Muslim was to kill me.


Thankyou for confirming that NOT all 1.6 billion Muslims are terrorist sympathizers, just a minority of them.

That took you what.....3 threads and countless posts?



Thank you for confirming that you are ignoring the true numbers over and over and over. If you don't consider 1/4 of a population as terrorists, then I don't have any thing more to say. You keep spewing this 1.6 billion blah blah blah. 1/4 of 1.6 billion is a lot of terrorists.


I can't help but wonder how many US Police and Military would self identify as Christians...

Food for thought.

But we separated state from church long time ago.If some christian wants to burn some "whitches" he will end up in prison or if he met me then Guantanamo will be kindergarten comparing to my methods.In muslim countries is played another song.


Yes, church and state are so separate in fact, that the Capitol building in my state has a monument of the Ten Commandments out front that has been repeatedly deemed by the courts as "constitutionally protected due to our Nation's historical principles" despite numerous appeals over the last five or so years.

It's okay, I know cognitive dissonance hurts really bad at first.
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posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite

Really?

That is precisely the sort of level headed thinking which this world needs more of! *SARC, OH MY SWEET GOD, SARC!*

The reality of the situation, resists simplicity in the most steadfast fashion possible, and I tire of people being unable to grasp its complexities without first showing themselves up.

Air strikes cannot stop a cell based force of militants, any more than a massed infantry assault can. The governments of the west, and indeed the Arab nations, are more than aware that a massed military response of any kind to this situation will be as effective as a marshmallow, launched from a slack slingshot, at a very large tank or armoured vehicle.

What is needed here, is a totally deniable force of assassination and disruption teams, which cannot be traced to their nation of origin, cannot be identified, cannot be broken by torture, whose mission is to use guerrilla tactics to sabotage enemy supply lines, murder ISIS commanders critical to their force cohesion, and to display their bodies publicly, as a partial psyop. Also, they need to destroy their underground networks, hunting them using the very tactics which have been successful for ISIS to achieve similar ends, without any publicity, without uniforms, without embassy assistance or any form of contact with the people running the operation what so ever.

A large military force is far to visible to be any use in combating this kind of militancy, so smaller units, spread out over distance, with instructions to totally destroy as much of the enemy command chain as possible, to make life horrible for the rank and file by removing their ability to resupply, these tactics are going to be far more successful than some half baked air raids, followed by boots on the ground in great numbers, and thats anyones boots, the Americans boots, the British boots, or the Iranian or other Arab nations boots.

The reason it must be done this way, is that first, air strikes put innocent lives at risk, and given that they will, in and of themselves be totally ineffectual in terms of their inability to remove the threat entirely, down to the root, that some think them a wise choice, is frankly testament to the stupidity of some people, and little more besides. Innocent lives being lost, creates radical thought, creates extremism, creates extremists. That is what one wishes to avoid in this situation, so it is wise to only kill the people who need to die, who have been beheading, killing, raping and looting their way from nation to nation, city to city, door to door as part of ISIS.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite


As I've said, if you want to disprove my claim that arab/muslim nations aren't doing enough in this, feel free to.

Syria, Lebanon & Iraq all fighting IS...
5 other Muslims Nations part of Obama's coalition...
Iran yesterday making claims that IS need to be destroyed and that they will be getting involved...

That's 8 Middle Eastern nation all doing there bit...

What would be enough for people like you who keep claiming nothing is good enough?



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

If you think 1/4 of your peers could act like this towards others and all you can say is, well, the rest of us don't care, we don't do that, then the problem lies with you.


If a quarter of YOUR peers were, say, joining terrorist groups, would you blame ALL your peers for the actions of that 1/4?

No you would not.

Yet you seem intent on blaming all 1.6 billion Muslims for the actions of just a quarter of them. It's really quite simple logic mate. Is your hate for all things Muslim THAT great that you ignore simple and logical FACTS?


I know 400 million of your peers are a sorry excuse for human beings. If you can live with that knowlege, go ahead. I don't surround my self with terrorist so your made up argument is the stuff of fairies and unicorns.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite


Well, if the airstrikes are stopping the psychopaths...gotta do what you gotta do. If they want to cut other people's heads off, we'll blow them to smithereens and if you think I won't laugh like a mad man at their bodies being torn to shreds then you've misjudged.

Psychiatric diagnosis aside…

Waging aggressive war without just cause is a crime against Humanity. I believe Some people were hung for that in Munich, Germany.


If you don't think wiping the world clean of radical islam is a just cause - I don't know if you ever will find it. Except, perhaps in killing the unbelieving infidel?



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Them polls are as bull# as what you claim to be BS...

Prove it to me with valid and verifiable information


Here , read and understand .And Saudi Arabia the kingdom of Islam is not surveyed


www.pewforum.org...



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