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Adam & Eve + Incest

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posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 11:22 AM
No one here finds it strange, that civilizations, that were spread across the world, and had no interaction with each other have the very same or similar creation legend? Several are here

lots more here

or do humans have a connected conscious and share thoughts across the world.

And if we are referring to the Bible, surely you haven;t forgotten the Land Of Nod..where Cain found his wife,
" Doomed to
be a wanderer and a fugitive in the earth, he went forth into the "land of
Nod", i.e., the land of "exile", which is said to have been in the "east of
Eden," and there he built a city, the first we read of, and called it after his
son's name, Enoch. His descendants are enumerated to the sixth generation"

or the times of giants when the sons of God took the daughters of man

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. "

even of you don't believe in what the Bible says, the writting suggests IMO that someone, was adding to the genetic pool to prevent problems of inbreeding.

posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 09:54 AM
"The land of nod" the name is from the Hebrew for "wandering" so litterally he wandered until he built the first recorded city Enoch

ALso concidering that Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters, during Cains wandering he found a sister, cousin, or even second cousin, which is the commonly accepted veiwpoint among biblical scholars.

Originally posted by toolmaker

Adam and Eve are not literal figures, the bible states that itself. They are symbols, the story is a Parable of what happend to Humanity at some point in the past.

THe footnote of the bible that you often see are the tranlations of the name into english. Just like Abraham means "Great father" a lot of times people in those days would change thier names after great events. A lot of the names were litteral. But there is not proof that the Torahs are parables, people call them parables so they don't have to explain Miricles, yet in the Bible the Paraples are allways started with a refain which specifically states them as parables

The snake, serpent, whatever we call it, represents a search for knowledge, which we still use today (AMA standard is two snakes, emergency medical is a single snake wrapped around a pole, etc). The apple represents forbidden knowledge, Eve represents women, Adam Men, etc, etc.

1. No the serpant represents the devil, according to one of the first prophesies it protrays the serpent as such. Often the serpent and the Devel are called "the deciever" whcih si exactly what the serpent does.

2. the AmA standed is actaully a referance to Moses time Numbers 2:6-9

6 Then the LORD sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, "We sinned when we spoke against the LORD and against you. Pray that the LORD will take the snakes away from us." So Moses prayed for the people.

8 The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived.
addtionally this is also similar to what Jesus did on the cross, by beliving in what happened on the cross sins are forgiven. The Caduceus, or Rod of Asclepius traces its orgins to Eygypt and mesopotamia where the Hebrews first used it on thier journy to the promised land.

3. The apples is not really an apple, but Fruit from the "Tree of the knowldge of good an evil" which was forbidden, while there was nothing wrong about eating fruit from the "Tree of life" It is just that most people end up visualzing it as an apple.

4. The Hebrew for man (adam) sounds like and may be related to the Hebrew for ground ( adamah it is also the name Adam).

Genisis 2:23-24 23 The man said,
"This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called 'woman '
for she was taken out of man."
24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

5. It is easy to make up your own symbology and reason it, but you only can get meaning by comparing other parts of the text to confirm or deny that symbol

BTW, the parable in the Bible has very simalar stories pre dating it by thousands of years, so it is likely based on phoenician or summerian parables handed down over generations.

You hve proof the old testement Torahs are pre-dated by other text? There is no evidance summerian mythology pre-dates biblical times, and Phonicain history is only know in in the first century BC

The story relates an event that happened thousands and thousands of years ago. Humanity searched for knowledge that was forbidden
( for whatever reason) and paid a price for it.

No, God ordered Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge and life, when they did, they disobey God and were kicked out of Eden, some scollars belive God may have not wanted them to live in Sin and never die. That is why he barred the Garden of Eden from them

The story itself has many conflicts; God refers to itself in the plural, God is afraid humanity will become godlike, humanity may eat from the tree of life and become immortal, etc. We have a modified version of this story, which became one of the excuses used to subjegate women for the last few thousand years.

1. God is a triune God, 3 in one. Farther son, and holy spirit. Which makes his multiplicity and sigularity even more understandable.
2. Creating man "In his own image" is not ment to be visually, but spiritually. They were allready God like, but fell away from God with they disobeyed him, and created a riff that could only be healed by thier future son, many generations later.
3. a reason to subjgate women? I beg to differ, a Man is suppsoe to be leader of his household, while also serving his wife, while a women submits to his leadership and supports him. If a man takes advatage of his position of power a woman does not have to submit or show respect to him.

That is just an example of people taking scripture out of context to support their skewed veiwpoint

I would be very interested to find the original parable, and what it truly was supposed to teach.

Learn ancient hebrew

posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 10:25 AM

Originally posted by _BLiND_
So...Im supposed to beleive that the human race is all inbred? or what...

Well.. if Eve was adam's clone.. it would make her his twin so there would be major deformaties.. irrospective of how perfect the dna is [sorry if it has already been said].

The other problem is the female is actually the default gender. The xy in the sperm is what triggers a male fetus to start developing instead of the default female.

Which means that it would have to be eve that came first.

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