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originally posted by: kevinp2300
a reply to: Restricted
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Here is a previous thread discussing what he said.
originally posted by: kevinp2300
a reply to: mysterioustranger
Well, I also formed a few of my opinions based on ppl who have been researching a lot longer than me. This subject doesn't seem to have any type of closure in sight for me. It keeps bringing me around and around and sometimes I have to stop and see where the hell my beliefs lie. What do you think of Simon Parkes? He seems like the real deal to me. Who are your rock solid ppl u look to for info? Do you feel like Linda Art and George are disinfo agents or just ppl looking for good ratings? What is crazy is there are ppl who have been researching this stuff since the 40's who are still alive. Idk if we can truly learn the whole story of this subject. We are talking about thousands of years of aliens being here and our mainstream researchers have not made it to step 2 yet. They are still stuck on if UFOs are real or not.
originally posted by: kevinp2300
I have been researching the UFO subject for 10 years now and in order to reflect on what I have learned so far I decided to make a list of truthers/disinformers in ufology and why I have come to believe this. One of the biggest downfalls to ufology is the plethora of people who try to dis-inform the subject or tell somewhat true stories with lies embedded in order to sell a book. Even people who have been manipulated to believe falsities implanted in their minds from aliens is possible and commonly researchers are told to shut up by the government. This list will also include a 3rd section of researchers in the gray area in terms of what their intentions are from my perspective, this group also includes a few researchers who are fed dis-info and believe it. Please let me know if I miss anything about anyone because this topic is truly a Pandora's box. I can honestly say I have watched 1000+ hours of material on this subject so I hope it is worth something. I know I probably missed a few people, so throw out some other names not on the lists please.
originally posted by: kevinp2300
I have been researching the UFO subject for 10 years now and in order to reflect on what I have learned so far I decided to make a list of truthers/disinformers in ufology and why I have come to believe this. One of the biggest downfalls to ufology is the plethora of people who try to dis-inform the subject or tell somewhat true stories with lies embedded in order to sell a book. Even people who have been manipulated to believe falsities implanted in their minds from aliens is possible and commonly researchers are told to shut up by the government. This list will also include a 3rd section of researchers in the gray area in terms of what their intentions are from my perspective, this group also includes a few researchers who are fed dis-info and believe it. Please let me know if I miss anything about anyone because this topic is truly a Pandora's box. I can honestly say I have watched 1000+ hours of material on this subject so I hope it is worth something. I know I probably missed a few people, so throw out some other names not on the lists please.
Truthers
Anthony Sanchez- A newer name in the field. He wrote a great book "UFO Highway", about a lot of the operations going on at Dulce. His book was quickly pulled and is no longer available anywhere. He has done recent shows and calls his source Colonel X. His info coincides with Simon Parkes as well.
Bob Dean- Truly ahead of his time. My only ? is did the government end up getting to him?? Last couple of vids he goes off on weird far out topics claiming his wife is an ET and what not. Who knows but as far as I am concerned his info about his time at NATO is true.
Carla Turner- believe she was too angry at our gov't but did do great research into the grey abduction phenomenon.
Charles Hall- I have always got the feeling he told what he could and left it at that. Clearly avoids topics that he has no knowledge of in interviews. Many others speak of the tall whites he mentions. I believe these are the beings from Zeta Reticuli.
David Adair- Very smart man, could be a very complex disinfo agent, however it sounds like stays on topic about the technology he worked with, as well as describing how it works.
Jim Marrs- an objective researcher who carries a journalistic background to the field. His info coincides with many others.
John Mack- One of my favorite abductee researchers, however I feel as if the government got to him after his initial wave of skepticism he received for his research from Harvard. This could have lead to him being silent on the negative race of ETs or genuinely unaware.
Paul Hellyer- 91 years old and still writing books/doing shows discussing the global Cabals and how to defeat them. He was kept out of the loop in terms of the deeper layers of the UFO subject and did not realize the subject goes deeper than the US shooting down craft. Nevertheless, I believe he is well intended.
Philip Corso- Once again, someone who tells what they can and leaves it at that. His info coincides with many others concerning Roswell
Preston Nichols- Have heard multiple respected ufologists commend him on his research. Very knowledgeable about the Montauk Project and Philadelphia Experiment.
Simon Parkes- My favorite speaker. His story sounds rather crazy to a newcomer to the field, however something tells me he is the real deal. Gordon Duff posted that one of his sources claimed Parkes the real deal. Admits the part of his family that is illuminati and is a very well spoken man who does not try to sell anything to you.
The Gray Area
Andrew Collier- Although his information about Plaedians coincides with some ufologists research, he comes off as cocky and as trying to sell you a book. I have a hard time believing the whole Andromeda Council thing but I guess it is possible.
Bob Lazar- One of the most fascinating stories. He is very smart, which leads to a good story and also scares me. How much of what he says is true? What else does he know? Possible disinfo agent IMO.
Carl Sagan- I feel he did what he could up to a point because of his involvement in the Gov't
David Icke- I feel as if even though he is a good speaker, he is trying to sell you stuff as well as fight the disinfo agents by resorting to crazy claims about reptilians.
Jordan Maxwell- Seems passionate about the subject. Comes off as rather cocky and carries a lot of anger with him. He tries to sell stuff and refuses to tell us the whole story in fears of Warner bros. stealing his "symbol" idea.
Linda Moulton Howe- I do believe she works hard researching mutilations. However, her connection to Art Bell jeopardizes her validity. I think in recent years she has caught track of where the subject is currently going.
Stanton Friedman- One of the original ufologists. He does not share all he knows, however he is fundamentally important for originally researching UFOs. IMO needs to be more open minded to some of the other stories in ufology rather than quickly dismissing the possibility due to lack of evidence.
Steven Greer- I believe he has had good alien contact, however he is naive to attribute all negative ET phenomena on our government.
Dis-Informants
Art Bell- I will give Art the benefit of the doubt since he had to come up with material for his show. However, he is quoted as saying as long as it raises the ratings, interview them. This lead to a lot of disinformation agents being interviewed on Coast to Coast throughout the years. Art also says he doesnt want the responsibility of deciding what is or is not true.
David Wilcock- Claims he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. Said that Y2k would be disastrous, 2009 we would make contact and 2012 a huge event would happen. Enough with the BS David.
Ed Dames- Gov't remote viewing recruiter. Spreads false prophesies
George Adamski- The orginal disinfo agent of the gov't
John Lear- known CIA operative. Claims a tower is on the moon and collects our souls after we die in a box.
Nick Redfern- All that retrovirus bs he claimed was found on a crashed UFO. Widely reported disinfo agent.
Zacharia Sitchin- Sees Sumerian writings from an extremely biased Jewish perspective. Possibly disinfo agent working for the illuminati.