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Airstrikes in Syria not enough? (Kurds issue desperate plea from Syrian border town as ISIS closes i

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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:26 PM
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It already looks like boots on the ground are needed. Is this the beginning of preparing us for a boots-on-the-ground war?
I think it is. I think this is the beginning of WW3, and as soon as Russia gets involved then there you have it. Not looking good for world peace.



The advance on Kobani underscored the difficulty Washington faces in defeating Islamist fighters in Syria, where it lacks strong military allies on the ground.

"Those air strikes are not important. We need soldiers on the ground," said Hamed, a refugee who fled into Turkey from the Islamic State advance, told Reuters.

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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:52 PM
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well if the fleeing refuge quoted is such a military genius maybe he should rally his troops and lead them into combat himself.

And we can call off those"unimportant" air strikes



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

Of course it is. What has history proven? You can not win a war with out troops on the dirt. Plain and simple.

Everyone understands the need for air superiority. That doesnt mean a whistlin 8===D without troops to move in and occupy. Bombing the place to hell and then leaving it wide open to be retaken makes ZERO tactical sense. The whole thing is a giant FUBAR SNAFU.

We've had the wool pulled over our eyes again. It's going to cost tax payer dollars, more american lives and 'coalition' lives. All for what? To get into Syria, and potentially poke the Bear to the north. The whole thing reeks.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:03 PM
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400,000 about to be slaughtered by ISIS. Turkey already took in more refugees from there in the last 3 days than all of Europe has from the region in the last 3 years according to a UN report. Surrounded on all sides now with tanks mortars rockets and artillery, ISIS has stepped up the siege in response to Coalition bombing.

ISIS forces are in battle lines around the city, before they were dispersed among the hundreds of villages further out from the city for many months.

Could go either way, if they are going for an all out revenge attack bringing all their armor and heavy equipment out into battle lines near the city as reported then they could be the ones getting blown away by air. If the Coalition takes too long to designate targets and ISIS breaks into the city through the lightly armed defenders, then genocide of the Kurds will take place.

The Kurds are one of the boots on the ground the Coalition is counting on, ISIS is trying to preemptively eliminate a huge chunk of them all at once here before they get full support.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: tinner07

The government just wants you praising their activity when they go in for a full scale war.

Has nothing to do with anyone in Syria wanting it. They been begging for years for everyone to stay out.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

400,000, eh? You're insane.

How the hell does a non concentrated force of about 30,000 threaten 400,000?

WTF are you smoking, mate?



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: TinfoilTP

400,000, eh? You're insane.

How the hell does a non concentrated force of about 30,000 threaten 400,000?

WTF are you smoking, mate?

Those are mostly civillians

ISIS fighters capture 60 Kurdish villages in Syria in 48 hours
english.alarabiya.net...



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: TinfoilTP

400,000, eh? You're insane.

How the hell does a non concentrated force of about 30,000 threaten 400,000?

WTF are you smoking, mate?



It is a city with 400,000 people, all Kurds in it. The normal population is 200,000 but it has swelled with Kurdish refugees. If the ones that made it into Turkey were still there it would be close to 600,000. Mostly women and children.

30,000 could kill 4 million if the 4 million were refugees and the 30,000 had enough bullets.

edit on 24-9-2014 by TinfoilTP because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: xavi1000

And you guys get this number from where?



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Stats please. Links to some hard info on this?



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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I think we need to do FULL SCALE air support NOW. BOMB the hell out of them so they can't get into the city and start massacring people! Then we should come up with a workable plan, or semi-quasi-pseudo-something-or-other.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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From what i've found on google those numbers are way off.

Standing by for your sources.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: xavi1000

And you guys get this number from where?


From here

Photographer Captures Tens of Thousands Fleeing ISIS, Entering Turkey


At least 66,000 Syrian Kurds streamed into Turkey on Saturday, fleeing the latest advances of the Islamic State—the violent Sunni group that has declared a caliphate in parts of Syria and Iraq—as it moved further north in a bid to extend territorial control. The militants’ onslaught left as many as 40 towns and villages in northern Syria, including the border city of Ayn al-Arab, called Kobani in Kurdish, virtually empty, as thousands of men, women and children sought safety.




news.nationalgeographic.com...

And here

www.fark.com...

militaryedge.org...

www.businessinsider.com...



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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UN report yesterday

UN report from yesterday
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Isis fighters used tanks and artillery captured in Iraq to assault the Kurdish enclave around the city of Kobani, also called Ayn al-Arab, where between 400,000 and 500,000 members of Syria’s Kurdish minority have taken refuge.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: xavi1000

You don't see a difference in numbers? 400... 66?

seriously just STFU.

Get your facts strait before you sensationalize some bull crap. A 334,000 error is rediculous.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: xavi1000

You don't see a difference in numbers? 400... 66?

seriously just STFU.

Get your facts strait before you sensationalize some bull crap. A 334,000 error is rediculous.


You are way off, read and comprehend.

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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: xavi1000

You don't see a difference in numbers? 400... 66?

seriously just STFU.

Get your facts strait before you sensationalize some bull crap. A 334,000 error is rediculous.

Wow man , that 66 is only from saturday. You have serious issues with reading.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:29 PM
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Fair play to you. I appreciate the link.

xavi1000, learn to math.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: AnonyMason

Here's about the most concrete thing I can find you about the numbers involved. www.sesamestreet.org...

Welcome to the golden Age of the internet, where absolutely nothing you read is actually accurate.

Turkey has a very intimidating land force, and ISIS would be foolish to charge the border and get gunned down by a professional Army. If ISIS is going to try and chase the refugees into Turkey, they will do so as refugees themselves and try and operate under the radar inside turkey.

If there are 400,000 Kurds in this city why not take up their own arms and fend off the ISIS cell.



posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: Hijinx
a reply to: AnonyMason

Here's about the most concrete thing I can find you about the numbers involved. www.sesamestreet.org...

Welcome to the golden Age of the internet, where absolutely nothing you read is actually accurate.

Turkey has a very intimidating land force, and ISIS would be foolish to charge the border and get gunned down by a professional Army. If ISIS is going to try and chase the refugees into Turkey, they will do so as refugees themselves and try and operate under the radar inside turkey.

If there are 400,000 Kurds in this city why not take up their own arms and fend off the ISIS cell.


Because AK47's don't fair well vs tanks used as mobile machine gun bunkers.

The city is not in Turkey, it is in Syria near the border with Turkey. Over 100,000 made it into Turkey past their controlled border crossing there are 400,000 left in the city with defenders that are way undergunned compared to what ISIS has.



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