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Did Obama or Shadow Government Try To Nuke Our Own Country Last Year?

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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 08:20 AM

originally posted by: MKMoniker
Is the U.S. Navy now targeting politicians?

No, the navy is getting rid of drug addicts - what is wrong with them doing that?

posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 01:05 PM
The build-up to the "3 stolen nukes" story, last August and September 2013, is also worth exploring:

First of all, did you know that a 1983 made-for-TV movie has an eery similarity to the 2013 "3 stolen nukes" scenario?
"Special Bulletin is an American made-for-TV movie first broadcast in 1983. It was an early collaboration between director Edward Zwick and writer Marshall Herskovitz. In this movie, a terrorist group brings a homemade atomic bomb aboard a tugboat in the harbor of Charleston, South Carolina in order to blackmail the U.S. Government into disabling its nuclear weapons, and the incident is caught live on television. The movie simulates a series of live news broadcasts on the fictional RBS Network."

(NOTE: This should answer the burning question, about how such an inept and corrupt administration could come up with such a maliciously murderous idea. Only the Bad Guys weren't "foreign terrorists", but "domestic terrorists" residing in the White House! It was all about Team Obama activating its "Plan D" - at the behest of the Global Elitists - to force Americans to support getting involved in Syria's unwinnable civil war.

(This movie also involved "atomic bomb aboard a tugboat in the harbor of Charleston." And makes you ponder again what Google was up to with those 4-story Barges on both coasts - which were registered to the Coast Guard.)

"Following the bread crumb trail of FEMA orders, retired State Senator Sheldon R. Songstad of South Dakota State issued an “Emergency Fema Region 3 Alert!!!,” on August 13th, 2013.

"Region three is comprised of; Washington DC, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and West Virginia.

"Songstad’s research turned up some very interesting facts. Each item on its own could go unnoticed, but the collective facts may be worthy of your attention and scrutiny. The U.S. government appears to be PREPARING FOR A MAJOR EVENT. It appears that this event is being staged for approximately Oct. 1st. Let’s look at the numbers and dates.

"386,000 UN Peacekeepers began training the 4th week of July and will complete their nine week training by October 1st. They are learning English, as well as US weapon systems and Urban Warfare training.

"The Center of Disease Control ordered $11 million worth of antibiotics. Where are they going? FEMA Region lll. When are they due? October 1st. This coupled with the fact that the World Health Organization held an emergency meeting, its second such meeting in its history, to discuss MERS Coronavirus. This is quite unsettling. The WHO determined that a vaccine MUST be in place by October 1st."

(NOTE: Tying in the 'MERS Coronavirus' to a 'major event' about to happen on October 1st?! And here we are a year later, embroiled in an Ebola non-event, with the government/media pumping up the hysteria. At the same time as we are fighting a SuperRebel Force in the MidEast, the ISIL!)

"All DHS agents MUST now qualify with sidearm, shotgun and AR 15’s by September 28th. Less lethal qualifications are not mentioned. Has one eye brow raised? The DHS will receive 2800 Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAP’s) that must be delivered by October 1st.

"All National Guard units will complete their annual two week training in riot control and disaster assistance. All units MUST have their training complete by September 30th. However, the Eastern-based Coast Guard units will not be performing their usual training in the Gulf, this year they will be trained in Virginia and Delaware for 10 days beginning September 26th (thru Oct. 5th).

"FEMA purchase orders deserve a little attention too. They ordered over $14.2 million for MREs and heater meals and 22 million pouches of emergency water, to be delivered to Region III by October 1st. An additional order of $13.6 million worth of MRE’s and heater meals will be delivered to Austin by October 1st.

"Our U.S. military will not be permitted leave from September 28th thru November 5th. NORCOMM’s yearly training for civil unrest is suspended until September 27th. To be performed in northeast coastal areas. Date for release of QE3 report has been moved to October 16th.

"Coincidently, the Emergency Broadcast System will begin daily testing beginning on September 25th thru October 2nd."

(NOTE: This clearly proves that the government knew a "deadly disaster" was coming down, and were working with the deadline of Sept. 30/October 1, 2013 on multiple fronts. All these multiple-level preparations make it sound like they didn't know exactly what was going to happen - just that something horrible was confirmed to happen in early October 2013. OR was the exact event and location known, and all these preparations were just to protect the East Coast Elites, since South Carolina is in FEMA Region IV (4)?


Ex-Senator Songstad has paid dearly for notifying/warning the public of this upcoming event the Fall of 2013. He has no page in Wikipedia, and isn't even listed under Wikipedia's South Dakota legislators. On the State of South Dakota website, he is listed as having served 12 years as a Republican legislator, ending in 1988, as both a House Rep and Senator. (Shades of how the shadow-government tried to "erase" Area 51 whistleblower Bob Lazar!)

And then the vicious powers-that-be came up with THIS to throw at the 72 year old ex-Senator just last month:

Come on! This is so ridiculously an over-the-top frame-up, TPTB "punishing" Songstad for putting the pieces together about the "3 stolen nukes" event, and then going public with what he found. Like the fired top military officers who got fired for derailing the plan, and exploding the nukes harmlessly under the Atlantic - this elderly patriot will eventually be recognized for what he really is - a Hero.
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posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 08:34 AM
I suggest that folks following this discussion, check out this new ATS thread:

"Nephews Who Are Army Officers Recently Asked "Are You Prepared To Kill US Citizens?"
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posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:41 PM
a reply to: MKMoniker

These men are patriots that defended the Constitution against all enemies foreign AND domestic.

Yet another sign that we're not the only ones who sees the wrongness in the laws the government has been creating.

Maybe those 2 nukes will be used in the future if the government oversteps it's boundaries. Maybe even by rebel fighters.

the plot thickens

posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 09:19 AM
a reply to: mrpotatoe27

I agree! Government corruption has a long and sordid history. But I think this is the FIRST time in U.S. History that we have an Administration in Wash. DC that is totally dedicated to setting up a martial law fascism - or kill every law-abiding citizen in trying.

This may or may not be related to the "3 stolen nukes" fiasco last Fall. But re-supplying ships-at-sea is a vulnerable time, when crates or other invisible product can be loaded onto Naval ships.

I've seen articles about questionable mid-ocean re-supplying of U.S. Navy ships with crates of possible "explosive debris" from incidents/accidents on U.S. controlled islands SW of Japan, after which the ship received surprise orders to head back to the U.S. immediately. And the crew's Facebook page had a "Keep Your Mouth Shut About What Goes On Aboard Your Ship!" warning, amid photos of their ship being re-supplied at sea, far from port.

So, whether part of a streamlining, more cost-effective way to re-supply ships at sea, or a better way to catch on-loading of illegal contraband or "denied debris", the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps have taken delivery this year of new "seabasing platforms." (And Yes, these new resupply craft could ALSO be illegally repurposed, such as hauling stolen-nukes to avoid eyes/ears on overland routes.)
"The U.S. Navy and Marine Corps are preparing to take final delivery of the first of several new sea-basing platforms designed to increase forward presence and allow the services to operate without needing a pier, port or land-staging area, service officials said."
The U.S. Navy already has a "Seabase Integration Branch" (N85V) with large hovercraft that can also be used for resupplying ships at sea.

posted on Nov, 4 2014 @ 02:05 PM
More Air Force Nuclear Command Officer firings:
"The Air Force on Monday fired two more nuclear commanders and disciplined a third, fresh evidence of leadership lapses in a nuclear missile corps that has suffered a rash of recent setbacks, including the firing last year of its top commander.

"The most senior officer to be relieved of command was Col. Carl Jones, the No. 2 commander of the 90th Missile Wing at F.E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming, in charge of 150 of the Air Force’s 450 Minuteman 3 nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles. Complaints against Jones were the most extensive.

"Lt. Col. John Sheets, spokesman for Air Force Global Strike Command, which is in charge of the Air Force Minuteman 3 force as well as its nuclear bomber fleet, said that as a result of the Minot investigation a missile squadron commander, Lt. Col. Jimmy “Keith” Brown, was relieved of command Monday “because of a loss of confidence in Brown’s ability to lead his squadron.”

"The second officer targeted in the investigation at Minot was Col. Michael Pagliuco, commander of the 91st Operations Group, which is in charge of the three missile squadrons at Minot, including Brown’s.

"It is highly unusual for disciplinary action to be taken against commanders at two of the Air Force’s three nuclear missile bases on the same day. Officials said the timing was a coincidence."

(The "3 stolen nukes" last year came out of Dyess AFB in Texas. I found no connection between these fired officers stationed in Wyoming and South Dakota and Dyess. So this may not be related to the "3 stolen nukes" last year, but just a continuation of the Air Force's determination to make their Nuke Corps more alert and responsible.)
Out of a total of 20 Articles 15 meted out, 16 were from the 7th Bomb Wing, more than several for "making a false official statement" and/or "failing to go to a mandatory appointment". (Dyess is home to the 7th Operations Group, 7th Maintenance Group, 7th Mission Support Group, and 7th Medical Group.)

The "3 stolen nukes" reportedly came out of Dyess AFB in Texas in September 2013. Now-fired military officers re-stole the nukes and dumped them in the Atlantic to explode on Oct. 8, 2013. Here are some stories from Dyess around that time-frame:

posted on Nov, 4 2014 @ 04:01 PM
a reply to: MKMoniker

Are these soldiers heroes for refusing to follow the orders of the Condemner and Thief (to NOT kill American Citizens)?

Will THEY try another false flag event to enact Martial Law?

Stay tuned kiddies on your same bat station, same bat time!!

posted on Nov, 4 2014 @ 04:34 PM
Stolen nukes?!! LMAO, c'mon now be serious. We all know that our nuclear arsenal is so closely guarded a cockroach couldn't land on one without setting off alarms, right?......right?

That is, if we can conveniently forget about the missing nukes from Barksdale AFB that somehow make it there from Minot AFB. Nukes can and have gone missing. I don't see how this can be definitely proven or disproven by anyone other than those directly concerned at this point.

Carry on OP.
Some of us are willing to listen because this subject is way too important to dismiss offhand.
If team Bush/Cheney would try sneaking nukes out I don't see any reason why Obama would be any different.

posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:37 AM
a reply to: Yule C Mann

"Are these soldiers heroes for refusing to follow the orders of the Condemner and Thief (to NOT kill American Citizens)? "

The original spat of top officer firings last Fall were all related to the "3 stolen nukes to Charleston" scenario. And of course they are heroes! They risked their careers to prevent a nuking of the U.S. We should be so lucky to always have exemplary military troops/officers like this, who risk killing their long careers to save innocent American lives! (They understandably can't say anything public yet, with the fascist regime still in the White House, and because they need their retirement and VA benefits.)

And Yes, the UCMJ states that any soldier/officer should "NEVER obey an illegal order." But if you are lied to, in language couched in terms like "Vital Black Operation," "National Security," or "It's all just a test for our foreign enemies, no one is nuking anything," it may be hard for the soldier/officer to determine where the order came from - and if it is indeed illegal.

"Will THEY try another false flag event to enact Martial Law?"

Probably. These most recently fired officers may have been ready to pull off another "rogue nuke event," since it's been a year since the "3 stolen nukes for Charleston" event. But that is TOTAL SPECULATION, I don't really know.

On the good side, the true Patriots (whether Feds or civilian law enforcement) have done a terrific job catching all these "killer events" so far, and have a growing list of Team Obama's "players." So the pool of willing-fascist-killers is getting smaller all the time, and the ones still out there plotting are probably connected somehow . We just have to hold out 'til 2016 - and hope paper ballots and smarter vote choices get some decent, conscientious leaders back in the White House.

And if I haven't said it before, I can't thank all you honorable military officers enough for saving my life and my country:

"When the will defies fear, when duty throws the gauntlet down to fate, when honor scorns to compromise with death, that is Heroism." Robert Green Ingersoll
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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:07 PM
a reply to: Asktheanimals

"Some of us are willing to listen because this subject is way too important to dismiss off hand."

Thanks. That's all I ask. I truly believe that this was a real event that almost happened, and revealed a depth of evil in the people we have sent to Wash.DC that is staggering.

"Nukes can and have gone missing."

Yes they have. And when you factor in all the "glitch" nuke-missile-launches stopped in the nick of time, you have a real appreciation for how the Air Force is trying so hard to weed out Airmen/Officers who have less than a rigorous approach to guarding our nuclear arsenal:
"On 10 January 1984, Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming, recorded a message that one of its Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles was about to launch from its silo due to a computer malfunction. To prevent the possible launch, an armored car was parked on top of the silo."

When in danger - improvise!

posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:32 PM

originally posted by: MKMoniker
a reply to: Asktheanimals
"On 10 January 1984, Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming, recorded a message that one of its Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles was about to launch from its silo due to a computer malfunction. To prevent the possible launch, an armored car was parked on top of the silo."
When in danger - improvise!

I didn't know about that. Now that was some quick thinking by someone and possibly losing their own lives to prevent a catastrophe. Most of our service men and women are that devoted and would do the same. It isn't them I mistrust. There were just way TOO MANY bizarre things going on during that time period - all the government contracts, the exercises, the Lindsay Graham bizarro comment.
I really do believe the Bush administration fully intended to sneak a nuke off the Syria or Iran or possibly even to use against the American people. They have no conscience and could care less about our country or it's people. The group they swear allegiance to knows no borders or ethical boundaries. I'm sure they didn't buy tens of thousands of acres in Paraguay as a simple investment. To me that's a clue something awful like nuclear contamination was coming to the Northern Hemisphere.
The firing and retiring of so many top level officers cannot be excused as "normal". This is an intentional weeding out of true patriots IMO and real danger sign to anyone following the criminal nature of this administration.

posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:27 PM
a reply to: Asktheanimals

I have NO respect for George W.Bush, but I've never seen anything to indicate he ever wanted to deliberately kill millions of innocent Americans. He dragged us into a couple MidEast wars at the behest of the global elitists, so they could line their pockets as war-profiteers. If anything, George W.'s administration went too far the other way - claiming WMD to push us into Iraq, when no real proof of WMD in Iraq was ever found.

While Team Obama continues to rack up dubious "firsts," from the most money spent in his first year in office, the $45 Billion he spent to bail out Europe when our economy was crumbling, to our ever-downgraded credit rating on our ever-growing National Debt.

And that seems to be Team Obama's approach now - throwing all manner of various unrelated "disasters" at us, while carefully orchestrating the media to emotionally-sway us one way or the other: the flood of illegal immigrants, Ferguson, ISIL, Ebola, mistreating/firing too many soldiers and officers, bizarre declarations that the economy is improving - when it's not.

Knowing some of his vile "advisers," I don't know if he's trying to wear us down with a constant stream of "disasters," so we are in disaster-fatigue when they pop the Big disaster on us. Or one of the previous test-disasters suddenly goes nuclear, and Team Obama can say "Well, we tried to warn you!"

I'm thrilled the GOP had a sweep of the Election. Now I'm watching who Team Obama wants as Atty General. All the names floated so far are race-baiters, total incompetents, and the insiders'-insider (translation: will do whatever the lobbyists and other "insiders" want.) My favs are Fitzgerald, the former N.Chicago Federal Prosecutor, and Jeh Johnson, new head of the (mess Napalitano left of) Homeland Security. I figure my odds are 0-0 for either one ...

posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 06:48 AM

"The foundation of America's nuclear arsenal is fractured. The cracks appear not just in the military forces equipped with nuclear weapons but also in the civilian bureaucracy that controls them, justifies their cost and purpose and plans their future.

"It's not clear that the government recognizes the full scope of the problem, which has wormed its way to the core of the nuclear weapons business without disturbing bureaucracies fixated on defending their own turf. Nor has it aroused the public, which may think nuclear weapons are relics of the past, if it thinks about them at all.

"Rather, this is about a broader problem: The erosion of the government's ability to manage and sustain its nuclear "enterprise," the intricate network of machines, brains and organizations that enables America to call itself a nuclear superpower. The slippage is in certain key building blocks — technical expertise, modern facilities and executive oversight on the civilian side, and discipline, morale and accountability on the military side.

"The shortfalls are compounded by tight budgets and uneven political support. In the absence of a headline-grabbing nuclear accident in recent decades and receding fears of nuclear war, these problems have generally gone unnoticed.

"Nuclear weapons, the panel said, have been "orphaned" by Washington. Although today's weapons are technologically sound, "there is no affordable, executable (government) vision, plan or program for the future of nuclear weapons capabilities."

(NOTE: It is exactly this lack of focus that allowed the "3 rogue nukes" to be stolen from Dyess AFB last year, which top officers risked their careers to re-steal and detonate in the Atlantic.

(And I'm watching the current "radiation hot-spot" of Miami, and wondering if more "stolen nukes" might be the reason. I have been posting on this in another discussion at ATS, but the story is totally on black-out with the media:
"Cruise Turns Nightmare After Hitting 'Unknown Object'
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posted on Nov, 14 2014 @ 10:07 AM
" The Pentagon will have to spend billions of dollars over the next five years to make emergency fixes to its nuclear weapons infrastructure, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel will announce on Friday, after two separate Pentagon studies concluded that there are “systemic problems across the nuclear enterprise,” according to senior defense officials.

"For example, while inspectors obsessed over whether every checklist and review of individual medical records was completed, they ignored huge problems, including aging blast doors over 60-year-old silos that would not seal shut and, in one case, the discovery that the crews that maintain the nation’s 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles had only a single wrench that could attach the nuclear warheads.

"That is in addition to tens of billions of dollars that the Obama administration has already designated to upgrade nuclear laboratories and extend the lives of aging warheads. The huge investment has been hard to explain for an administration that came to office talking about a path to eliminating nuclear weapons around the globe, though President Obama has also pledged to make the country’s nuclear arsenal as safe and reliable as possible.

"That report also found major problems at submarine bases, where staffing was so short and parts so scarce that nuclear-armed submarines were kept away from patrols for far longer than planned, undercutting the country’s best-hidden nuclear deterrent force.

"Among the report’s suggestions, officials said, were more recognition and special pay for highly responsible nuclear jobs. The advice for bolstering morale got as specific as restoring “select crew” patches and creating a pin or patch for successfully completing 200 missile alerts.

"Officials said the external reviewers had leveled some of their HARSHEST CRITICISM AT PERSONNEL RELIABILITY PROGRAMS, which seek to determine the mental fitness of those charged with firing the nation’s nuclear arms. They said the programs, as currently managed, often conveyed distrust of atomic personnel and actually reduced fitness."

(Obviously, "stealing nukes" could be an inside OR outside problem, with such lax security of aging nuclear weapons - which already are far behind for needed repairs/upgrades!)
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posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 02:04 PM
Why are you all taking a thread that's in the HOAX section so seriously?

posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 02:49 PM
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Because a lot of folks - including me - do NOT think it was a hoax! If you've read this entire thread, you'll know that the story has been vetted by multiple different sources. And I've found a lot of credible if circumstantial evidence that YES, it really happened!

There were even multiple reports on October 8, 2013 - the date the brave military officers stole back the nukes and detonated them in the Atlantic - of witnesses who sent "bright flash" reports to UFO reporting sites. And the dissipating donut-cloud was even photographed by ISS.

There may have been another similar episode a few weeks ago, when everyone was busy voting on Nov. 4-5. Miami was a radiation hot-spot for over a week, and background radiation readings in the atmosphere spiked on those days too.

You'll never see an admission of anything from this vile fascist government in Wash DC. But now there are multiple reports on the lax security of our nuclear stockpile (see above articles). And just today there is an Atlantic Cod Ban:
"In August, NOAA announced that an assessment of the cod fishery over the summer found the cod population had plummeted more steeply than previously thought. Its surveys, NOAA said, found cod had dwindled to as little as 3 percent of what it would take to sustain a healthy population. That was down from between 13 and 18 percent in the last assessment in 2011.

"Making matters worse, the government found few young fish, reflecting paltry spawning rates. The number of cod in the region is at an all-time low, estimated to be between 2,100 and 2,400 metric tons.

"It is unclear what has caused cod to vanish from local waters, but some have blamed overfishing and climate change. A study this year by the Gulf of Maine Research Institute found that the Gulf of Maine is warming at a rate faster than 99 percent of the world’s other oceans.

(How about the truth? Irradiated fish?)

Also, did the Atlantic nuclear detonation last October 2013 alter the jet stream? That may be pushing the radiation toward Maine?
"The potential of a weak, developing “El Nino” — a tropical Pacific ocean-atmospheric phenomena that impacts global weather patterns — could push the jet stream into a position to bring cold air into northern New England from Canada, but not the extreme cold weather Maine experienced last winter, according to Victor Nouhan, meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Caribou."

As far as ATS putting this discussion in [HOAX], they have to tread a fine line with the Wash DC Powers-That-Be. If I'd turned up nothing more than a few unverified rumors, this whole discussion would have been yanked, I'm sure. So at this point, with our country being run by "out-of-control cover-up specialists," I'm just happy this discussion is still open and accessible. Even if it's in [HOAX]

posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 03:51 PM

originally posted by: MKMoniker
Because a lot of folks - including me - do NOT think it was a hoax! If you've read this entire thread, you'll know that the story has been vetted by multiple different sources. And I've found a lot of credible if circumstantial evidence that YES, it really happened!

There are no valid sources, there is zero evidence for your silly claims.

And just today there is an Atlantic Cod Ban:

A normal announcement, but you spin it into your silly story....

(How about the truth? Irradiated fish?)

The truth is you have nothing at all to back your silly story up with.

That may be pushing the radiation toward Maine?

What radiation are you on about?

As far as ATS putting this discussion in [HOAX],

Well, that is where silly hoaxes belong, which is why it is in the hoax forum!

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