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Disgusted over idiotic Gun control comments.

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posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 04:34 PM

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: CardiffGiant

I see. So guns make you nervous and you did nothing about the yahoo breaking the law with his firearm.

I love irony, thank you.

just cause the guns on the street make me nervous does not mean i have to call the cowboy cops when i see someone breaking the law.
no irony to it.

i dont trust the yahoo breaking the law and i dont trust the cops for me

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 04:41 PM

originally posted by: CardiffGiant

originally posted by: douglas5

But i am very lucky to live where there are good people around me

yeah man... youre lucky
people around here are pricks and cant be trusted. lots of those same people are carrying guns which makes it worse

I only have to travel 15 miles to the city and the mad funkies are packing guns in broad daylight in the open, moss-side in the Highlands

The zombie apocalypse is here bud , the best thing to do is avoid the cities and run for the hills but the junkies have figured out where the feeding grounds are

stay safe

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 04:56 PM
a reply to: CardiffGiant

You are obviously a hugely contributing part of your firearms nervousness paradigm.

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:17 PM

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: CardiffGiant

You are obviously a hugely contributing part of your firearms nervousness paradigm.

its me. its also the thousands of guns in circulation. its also the fact that most people are pricks and cant be trusted.

my house got broken into when i was 7 years old. it was a bad scene. i remember every moment of it.
my dad had a couple guns in the house for protection. they never even made it out of wherever my dad kept them.

i just go by my experiences......
in my experience, for the most part people are pricks. they cant be trusted and they will get over on you in an instant if they think they can get away with it

things like that stay with you and shape your world view.
i will never forget the guys name that broke in. i heard it one time almost 31 years ago. never forgot it
edit on 24-9-2014 by CardiffGiant because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:20 PM
a reply to: CardiffGiant

I do not share your overly pessimistic view of humanity.

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:22 PM

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: CardiffGiant

I do not share your overly pessimistic view of humanity.

im glad for you. i really am.
i wish i had a different view of humanity. might make things better for me.
but, i dont.

ive felt like this for a long time. in general i think people are terrible. they are especially terrible to people that are not like themselves

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:28 PM

originally posted by: CardiffGiant
its also the fact that most people are pricks and cant be trusted.

I am not saying this in a condescending manner, but you may want to talk to someone about that. It's a detrimental way of thinking and the main one it hurts is you. Sure there are bad folks out there, but I swear there are some good ones too. It all depends on who's eyes you look out of. The world can be whatever you want it to be. And it will be what you make of it.

I hope you find some happiness.

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:37 PM
a reply to: network dude

This little dude nailed it in 9 seconds

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:43 PM
a reply to: FyreByrd

That's the most asinine comment I've ever heard.

I don't need a gun to feel powerful, but I would need a gun to stop 4 armed thugs who decide to do a home invasion to rob me, or rape my wife.

Actually, I probably wouldn't I could stop them by other means, but most can't and depriving people of the ability to defend themselves in whatever manner they so choose because it makes YOU more comfortable is unacceptable.


posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 05:54 PM
a reply to: CardiffGiant

Do you even know what ARMS are??? They are NOT limited to firearms and the wording of the second amendment is pretty specific, the right to bear ARMS shall not be INFRINGED...

Any law limiting ANY arm from being owned or born by an individual is unconstitutional.

Arms are not specified, that means pole arms, axes and swords qualify, as do knives, and rocket launchers.

The purpose was to protect the people against govt. encroachment on rights and going above the authority granted them by the people.


You go ahead and curl into a ball when a bad situation comes your way, I will go down fighting for me and mine.

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:12 PM

originally posted by: Masterjaden

You go ahead and curl into a ball when a bad situation comes your way, I will go down fighting for me and mine.

so since people carrying guns around town makes me nervous that means i will curl up when something bad happens?

didnt know i had to use a gun to fight for me and mine.

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:14 PM

originally posted by: network dude
I am not saying this in a condescending manner, but you may want to talk to someone about that. It's a detrimental way of thinking and the main one it hurts is you. Sure there are bad folks out there, but I swear there are some good ones too. It all depends on who's eyes you look out of. The world can be whatever you want it to be. And it will be what you make of it.

I hope you find some happiness.

of course there are good people out there. imo though the majority of people suck.

i appreciate your concern....i dont feel like it hurts me.
i keep people away for a reason. people cant hurt you if you dont let them in.....

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 06:20 PM
I think what's changed over the decades is the mindset and attitude towards firearms.

There was a time when just about everyone owned a shotgun or two or twelve, but it was taught from a very young age by our elders that those weapons were something to be respectfully feared, and therefore were to be handled in the same manner.

But now with the onset of a gun culture (for lack of a better terminology), it has become almost like a religion. This gun worship thing has invoked a mindset of 'bragging rights' per se... flash your firearms collection to your pals and gain a position of power and prestige. Guns have become a toy.

That 'toy' mentality means that these weapons are no longer being handled with the care and respect that they need to be.

It's a recipe for disaster.

Gun manufacturers in the US are literally pumping out 5 million firearms per year and marketing them in gun shows, magazines, etc. When you market something to the masses, you cause that item to become a must-have, a thing of lust, a thing of wanting.

As an example of what I'm talking about: Cigarettes are a health hazard to the people smoking them as well as the people around that secondhand smoke. For this reason, cigarettes are no longer allowed to be advertised or marketed to the masses. It's a changing of the psychological association with that item. People will still smoke, but the prestige that's no longer associated with it helps to reduce the 'turn-on' factor.

Guns are NOT tools, they are weapons. Period.

A tool is something that is designed for non-harmful purposes. A tool can be used as a weapon, but it was not designed specifically for that sole purpose... You can take an icepick and jam it into someone's skull, but it was not designed for that purpose.

A weapon, on the otherhand, is something that's designed specifically for the purpose of causing harm and death and it cannot be utilized as any other purpose than that.... You cannot eat your soup with a gun, you cannot cut a piece of lumber with a gun, and you cannot sit on your gun and ride it to the grocery store.

We need to readjust the attitude and mindset about firearms back to the way it used to be... something to be respectfully feared. Not something to be worshipped, not something to be played with, not something to be bragged about.

And a good first step is to stop calling a gun a goddamned 'tool'.

It's this gun worshipping Rambo crap that's ruining it for the rest of us, those of us who possess a respectful fear of our weapons and treat them as such... We do not flash them to our pals, we do not teach our children that they are a thing of beauty.

And calling a firearm a 'tool' is a part of that delusional gun worshipping culture... using all illogical means possible to make firearms look like some kind of fricken tinker toy, when they are not. It's a feeble attempt to change the psychological association of what firearms really are.

edit on 24-9-2014 by CranialSponge because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 11:09 PM
People saying guns don't kill people,people kill people are running away from the facts. OBVIOUSLY someone has to pull the trigger, OBVIOUSLY someone needs to load the gun, but glaringly OBVIOUS is the fact that if there was no gun then most likely a crime is less likely to be commited.
It is probably not a good idea to ban guns in the US, as this would lead to more deaths of innocent people by criminals.
However the premise that less guns would not mean less deaths is simply ridiculous, you just need to look around the world to countries that have gun bans in place, compare that with the deaths in the US and it is a no brainer.

People in the US bang on about their rights to bear arms, yes it is enshrined in your constitution, yet your rights and freedoms have been systematicaly stripped from you over the past 15-20 years alone and you do NOTHING. Big brash talk is all we hear and its boring, it is time you stopped making excuses and take off the star spangled blindfold.

posted on Sep, 24 2014 @ 11:36 PM
a reply to: CardiffGiant

Yes Rifles and Guns are dangerous weapons.
Respect them? yes.
Fear them? no.
Fear leads to handling them nervously, which causes accidents.

Learn how to handle them and how to use them properly and you will still respect them but you won't fear them, and if you see someone handling them in a dangerous way, you call them on it, and educate them in the proper care and handling of the weapon. But you need to know this before you can teach it.

Currently I have a Shotgun for home defense and bird hunting, a .22 LR for small game (like squirrel and rabbit) a 30-30 for Deer and a .357 Mag. snub nose for personal protection, as I am to young to die and to old to take a beating.

I also have for the use of visiting friends and relatives a Remington 308 and two .45 Cal. Colts.

That is 6, each has it's own functions as you should be able to plainly see. Target practice applies to all of them as does keeping predators (read Wolves, Bear etc..) away from my property.

I have to say that if you are so nervous with guns being owned by people you don't trust then you should:
A. Seek counselling
B. Move to a country that does not allow them even for self defense, like Australia or the UK
or Japan, or even better North Korea or China.

posted on Sep, 25 2014 @ 12:14 AM
Ta reply to: CardiffGiant

The constitution of the United States of America guarantees my right to own as many guns as I want. I don't feel a need to own multiple firearms it is my right as an American citizen to own as many as I want. Europeans will never understand this concept because they have never had this right guaranteed to them. people will always want to disarm the law abiding citizen because they covet what we have.

posted on Sep, 25 2014 @ 12:29 AM
a reply to: Masterjaden

Kind of the point I think...I am not a fighter...I'm 6'4" and 250 pounds so yeah most people may think a bit before coming after me because they know if I do miraculously land a punch it is going to hurt...but seriously? I can't fight for crap

So yeah if someone comes in my house to harm my wife and I have a gun available...well I guess if I pull it off that is gonna be the end of the threat...but I guess that means I have to 'feel powerful' by owning a gun eh?

Yeah there are some emotionally-charged and overbearing gun folks out there...but take a glance at some anti-gun folks...sheesh!

No it is safety for I don't's like Ron White says ((not verbatim)) it's not that I feel bad for the animals, it's because it's 4:00 AM, it's cold and I don't want to go

but people do hunt...and yes I am well aware you can easily go and buy meat from a store or even better meat from a good butcher but unless people are poaching, hunting illegally or driving deer to extinction I don't see the issue

And I am pretty darn sure the Glock 17C (I used to own...had to sell to pay a bill) isn't quite cut out for the job of taking down 150-200 pound yeah people have different guns for fowl, deer, and yes defense

Because the sad fact that it took this liberal WAY too long to learn is this

Some time ago I started a bit of a debate here about if you could magically take away all guns and nobody would ever have them again...would you?

And now that I think about it, what difference does it make? People murdered each other plenty before guns with swords, knives, poisons and all other weaponry

But...the fact is my premise, while it was a serious attempt to spawn debate, was kind of pointless. Because obviously there is no magic if you took guns away from all responsible owner then what? Do you really think the criminals are gonna go "oh...well hell there is CCW anymore...we don't need this Mac 10...let's just knife him"

yeah it kind of doesn't work that way

And yes, I know there is a major difference between a weapon and something that can become a weapon...but so can anything

None of the rest of this has to do with my response to Jaden

I know you've heard all about it before

but here it comes anyway..torch me if you like

In 2012 there were 33,561 motor vehicle deaths - People can and DO drink and drink, call and drive, text and drive, put on makeup and drive, and play grab ass and drive - when the heck are we banning these 2000 pound metal beasts? And just like SO talked about people with their massive gun culture there is a huge car culture too. Talk about their cars all day, race in the streets and bob and weave in traffic while texting and eating

Between 2006 - 2010 there was an average of 88,000 deaths by alcohol - People drink to excess, mix drinks, drink and do dangerous things or just plain drink until their livers completely fail not to mention AGAIN that drinking and driving kills and endangers others. And there is a huge booze culture. People who talk all day about wine, beer or college frats that spend every day on each weekend getting slammed to the tune of .20-.30 BAL...every weekend...When do we ban this evil liquid?

In 2010 there were 40,393 drug induced deaths and 38,328 drug overdose deaths - People OD on purpose, on accident, steal pills, take illegal and illicit drugs and their is a booming worldwide culture where people literally spend every second of their day chasing the dragon or hunting their next hit. Then you have doctors, responsible and trained individuals who give the wrong drug, wrong dose, or wrong combination. These are responsible and extremely highly trained specialists who have killed - When are we going to ban all drugs?

oooh wait...hold up...we DID ban all drugs didn't we? I can't find my local and legal heroin dealer and the last Wal Mart I went to stopped carrying coc shouldn't we not be seeing all these deaths now? It's illegal right?

Look I get it, this response was emotionally charged and I kind of don't care because some anti-gun folks and people who want to amend are just as bad. Yes I am sad anytime someone dies by gun violence if they were innocent. Yes I believe Treyvon was murdered BUT even IF you don't, we all know that thousands are murdered each year by guns and I am pretty sure a good amount of them were innocent. So why take away a right and an opportunity for safety? Because if tomorrow Obama said turn in all guns and you get $100 per gun and EVERY single legal and responsible American became docile and turned them in, do you really think criminals are going to go back to knife or hand-to-hand combat?

I'll take that bet if you

edit on 25-9-2014 by KyoZero because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 25 2014 @ 11:58 AM

originally posted by: network dude
I wonder, if you are a liberal gun hater, do you actually stop to think of how idiotic what you are about to say is going to sound?
In the history of the Earth, no inanimate object has ever gained free will and killed anyone. Not one. Be it knife, car, rock, gun, tank, surface to air missile, none. So when there is a tragedy that involves a gun, why get mad at the gun? Don't you think the person who picked up the gun and decided to use it for nefarious purposes has some blame here?

Remove all guns. Would that end violence? nope. Would it end killing? nope. People, before you remove all that's left of your brains and fill your head full of brown, gooey propaganda, think of who and what it is that should be blamed.

And a thread explaining the death of a family and 6 children is not the place to cry about gun control. It's a place to cry about people who were killed. Grow up and grow a brain.

If I could give you 100 flags and stars I would, The idiocy has to stop! The overwhelming amount of such idiotic comments really shows how many of our fellow neighbors are BRAINWASHED, including many many individuals who post here.


posted on Sep, 25 2014 @ 12:59 PM

originally posted by: CardiffGiant
im still wondering why you would need a small arsenal if you live rural.

why should someone be able to own a dozen guns or more? i just dont get it.

There are different types of firearms for different things. You don't use a .308 rifle to shoot a squirrel, and you don't use a .17 to hunt an elk (hell, that wouldn't even be legal in KY because it doesn't have enough power and would just injure the animal). You may want a shotgun for hunting birds or large animals (a .410 or 20-guage won't always take down the animal that a 12-guage will, but you often don't need the 12-guage for hunting smaller things). Plus, you may need a shorter-barrel long-gun for home defense (easier to maneuver in tight quarters) and longer ones for better accuracy and muzzle velocity for the hunting.

And that's just long guns--I didn't even get into preference between bolt-action or muzzle-loader or pump-action or magazine-fed perferences. Some people prefer different types for different purposes.

Handguns are a whole other issue--for personal concealed carry, I prefer a smaller-framed .380 or 9mm for summertime (less clothing = less concealment) and in the winter I opt for a compact .40, all semi-auto. But, some also like to own a revolver--hell, some revolvers can actually be used for hunting because barell length and caliber work for that. Some can even fire a .410 shotgun shell, and I know a few people that have one on hand for home defense--I wouldn't want one.

Then there are also those who shoot for competition, which require specific guns with specific set ups and customizations that cost a ton of money, and they don't want to take those tools out in the rain and mud on a hunting trip, or use them as an every-day carry weapon.

There's a lot more to go into as well, but I hope that this helps you "get it" as to why someone in a rural setting (or anywhere, for that matter) may need a small arsenal--it's because these are tools, and each "job" (hunting, target shooting, competition, home defense, self defense, etc.) may require a different tool in order for the operator of the tool to be successful and, most importantly, accurate.

Best Regards.

posted on Sep, 25 2014 @ 01:02 PM

originally posted by: CranialSponge

And a good first step is to stop calling a gun a goddamned 'tool'.

You are walking in the woods with a ham sandwich in your pocket. A bear approaches you with the "I'd love to have that ham sandwich" look in his eyes. What "tool" do you think would be best to use in that situation?

A. be afraid and never enter the woods
b. curl up in a ball and hope he goes away
c. reach into your tool belt and pull a .45, shoot once in the ground near the bear and hope you don't have to find out if a .45 can stop a bear

Or for some:
d. squeal like a little girl and throw Obama- Biden bumper stickers at him.

Guns are tools. Yes they are also deadly weapons. But they serve a very distinct purpose.

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