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France Is Pissing Off the Islamic State by Calling It Names

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posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 06:46 PM
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The news: Since it started making headlines, the feared and violent Islamic State terrorist organization has undergone a number of name changes in the media, from ISIS to ISIL to just IS, but France just came up with a new moniker, and it's driving the group crazy.

This past week, the French government announced it that, going forward, it would be referring to the group by a new name: "Daesh."

The decision was announced by French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, who asked journalists and the media to adopt the new name for a very simple reason:

"This is a terrorist group and not a state," Fabius told reporters, according to France24. "I do not recommend using the term Islamic State because it blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims and Islamists. The Arabs call it 'Daesh' and I will be calling them the 'Daesh cutthroats.'"

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius speaking with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry. Source: Bebeto Matthews/AP
International Relations Trolling: Though determining an exact translation of Daesh would be tricky (it seems to have started as a kind of acronym and morphed into something meaning "to thread underfoot, trample down, crush"), one thing is abundantly clear: The terrorists hate it.

According to an Associated Press report, the group has threatened to cut out the tongue of anyone caught publicly using the name/acronym Daesh, and AFP reports that in some parts of the Arab world, "daeshi" is being used an an adjective to refer to a bigot who imposes their views on others.

I originally read this article on Huff-Po but couldn't find it again. That article also said the UK is preferring to call them "the Un-Islamic State."

The article on Huffington Post also says that ISIS is offended because these terms are "disrespectful" to them. (lol!)

The World.Mic article continues:

An imposing "Islamic State" seems like something to fear, but as the group reveals more about itself, it's becoming apparent that the group isn't nearly as dominating as it wants to appear. The gruesome beheading videos, while terrible, are simple fear tactics — fear is the Islamic State's best weapon. And as soon as people stop fearing IS, as soon as they equate IS with a derogatory and spiteful joke (like calling them Daesh), the group will lose that weapon and become a much less powerful, dominating and fear-inducing organization.

It further states this demeaning title might be a very good thing. I have come across several folks on ATS who believe the name should be changed, myself included. It is indeed giving them respect and empowering them. To tear them down this way, is the least we can do.

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posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 06:51 PM
All in favour of Daesh, say aye!

It's about time we all agree on a name and stick to it.

And I agree we shouldn't respect them by giving them a great name like the islamic state. We should give them a derogatory name that belittles their existence.

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 06:57 PM
And soon after that Algerian militant group is threatening to kill a French hostage

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 06:58 PM
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

oh god forbid we insult these IS retards they may have a temper tantrum....

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:00 PM
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Actually, that's a really good move
And he is correct in the fact that they are NOT a state but merely another terrorist group

So what if they don't like it
No one likes them beheading people, but they do it any way, so screw them if they feel 'offended' by a name!!

Wish Obama would make bold actions like this instead of placating the terrorists

Now then, wonder if the American media will call them this or chicken out
We all know Obama and his goons probably won't

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posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:02 PM
Wow, good for the French!

Daesh, love it! bigots who impose their will on others, perfect!

It's a sad day when the French have more manhood than the US President and the US media.

We can no longer joke about the French being soft, this is hard core, especially considering the large areas of France that are under Shariah law and completely Muslim run.

In France, Islamic Sharia law is rapidly displacing French civil law in many parts of suburban Paris. The 2,200-page report, "Banlieue de la République" (Suburbs of the Republic) says France is on the brink of a major social explosion because of the failure of Muslims to integrate into French society. The report shows how the problem is being exacerbated by radical Muslim leaders who are promoting the social marginalization of Muslim immigrants in order to create a parallel Muslim society in France that is ruled by Sharia law.

Many cities or neighborhoods in France have turned into all-Muslim territories.

edit on 7Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:30:14 -0500pm92209pmk221 by grandmakdw because: format

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:06 PM
a reply to: DAZ21

Aye! It's amazing to me they take offense at being "disrespected". Do these Daesh Cutthroats not realize how much we loathe them?

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:06 PM
How do we know they are insulted? Did they issue a press release? do they have a public relations dept?

If they issued a press release to a news organization I think that building should be bombed.

Hell I think anytime they are mentioned the backdrop should be a cartoon of Muhammad. If that offends them...aww shucks. Beheading civilians offends us, Bombing public markets offends us. Oppressing women and girls offends us.

Is Daesh french for douche by any chance? lol...

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:09 PM
I think they should be renamed "Derp Turd"

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:12 PM
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

To them we are the infidels, anything we say opposing them is seen as disrespect.

Remember, you and I, will burn in eternal hell fire...

gets me every time haha.

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:14 PM
a reply to: Aural

I made a suggestion on another thread but nobody liked it.

UnIslamic Hellbound Psychopaths.

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:19 PM
a reply to: tinner07

How do we know they are insulted? Did they issue a press release? do they have a public relations dept?

Good question. I'll go see if I can find an actual statement.

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:26 PM

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: tinner07

How do we know they are insulted? Did they issue a press release? do they have a public relations dept?

Good question. I'll go see if I can find an actual statement.

I will say, that may explain why earlier today in their video they were harsher on the French than the Americans, which IMO is unusual

Gourdel was apparently taken within hours of an ISIS spokesperson releasing an audio message to its supporters around the world urging them to target Westerners from countries in the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS, "especially the spiteful and filthy French."

They had more to say regarding the French so maybe they are insulted................good

This is from the Washington Post:
France is ditching the ‘Islamic State’ name — and replacing it with a label the group hates

Now the French have added another complication. On Monday, the French government released a statement that included a reference to the group under a different name: "Daesh."

France had hinted that it would begin using this term – how the group is referred to in much of the Arab world – before, but this week appears to be the first time that the country has used it in official communications.

It also provides the the link from the France 24 media

Daesh is a loose acronym of the Arabic for “Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant” (al-Dawla al-Islamiya al-Iraq al-Sham).Use of acronyms is rare in the Arabic world, with the notable exception of the Palestinian group Hamas (Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾiSlāmiyya).

First used in April 2013 by Arabic and Iranian media hostile to the jihadist movement, Daesh became a name commonly used by the enemies of IS, notably forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad as well as activists and less fanatical rebel groups also fighting the Damascus regime.

A principal reason for using the acronym was to remove the words “Islamic” and “State” in reference to the group in a bid to stop Muslims in war-torn Syria and beyond flocking to its ranks.

Wish all media and governments would start calling them Daesh!!

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posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:27 PM
I submit "Pu**ies in Black" for the ISIS/ISIL/IS renaming party. Succinct and to the point, I believe this new moniker would do well both spoken:

President Obama: "The United States of America will not be intimidated by Pu**ies In Black, we are working on a comprehensive strategy to eliminate all Pu**ies In Black via drone and airstrikes."

As well as in print:

NY Times Headline: "Pu**ies In Black Threaten More Beheadings In Response to Obama's Tough Talk"

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:33 PM
I'm totally going to start using daeshi!

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:37 PM
a reply to: Kgdetroit

Sounds like the name of a porn site. Too appealing.

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:38 PM
Offended?? Better offended than beheaded. Wth are they complaining about? Like they have some kind of honor or something. Sick bastards and worse is what I would call them.

Offended. Wtf cares?? Obama? I'm glad someone isn't afraid to cause offense.

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:41 PM
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

I heard it the other day too on CNN, Daesh Cutthroat's. Appearently they will cut out tongues of those who say it.


This whole thing is getting pretty old now if you ask me. Especially when the French start throwing insults something has to be wrong. All this chatter on forums and the media, 2 dead REPORTERS, huge global threat. . . There is no denying these guys are bad, whoever they are or whoever they work for, but when all these things are put on the table it just doesn't feel right.
I guess we'll all find out soon enough. . .

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:44 PM
I wonder if Obama is ok with that. Ready to be disappointed....again.

posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 07:48 PM
a reply to: AnteBellum

The fact that over 100,000 civilian victims have tried to cross the Turkish border over the past few days, means we shouldn't be getting bored about this, we should be taking it more seriously.

We should do everything with in our power to defeat the Daesh short of putting troops on the ground like Blair wants, because that is what they want, to make themselves look like the victims and get people to join their cause.

But we need to do something to wipe this disease out, or one day It could be on our doorstep...
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