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NSA Today: Narcissistic Psychopathic Sadistic Trolls Paid By Your Tax Dollars to Disrupt Internet

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posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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NSA Today: Narcissistic Psychopathic Sadistic Trolls Paid By Your Tax Dollars to Disrupt Internet

I liked the headline DU put on this topic;


Perhaps Psychology Today missed the article about how the NSA has trolls all over the internet disrupting conversations.

The day the story was released, paid trolls were working overtime to remove all evidence of the story's existence.

Quite frequently, trolls become moderators.

Reddit Mods Bury Glenn Greenwald's Story On GCHQ/NSA Use Of Internet To 'Destroy Reputations'
(techdirt.com)

How Covert Agents Inflitrate the Internet to Manupulate, Deceive and Destroy Reputations
(firstlook.org)


I never trust anyone who has 24/7 availability to do nothing but post propagandist posts designed to sway public opinions or run non-stop smear campaigns.




posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 05:11 PM
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consciouslifenews.com...

^^^ take this with a grain of salt, still an interesting read involving the life and times of a modern propaganda pusher.

hoping ATS won't throw me any heat for this.



posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: Ziath
consciouslifenews.com...

^^^ take this with a grain of salt, still an interesting read involving the life and times of a modern propaganda pusher.

hoping ATS won't throw me any heat for this.


FYI the account you linked did appear here a couple of years ago, word for word as far as i remember.

Some peeps shill for free too:




posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 05:34 PM
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I have seen and interacted with these types here on ATS. This could be the primary reason why a lot of old time members, both official and the trollers think the place has depreciated with content and analysis. Anytime a critical conversation occurs, some overzealous "passionate" shill comes to the argument and turns it into "im the victim" off topic and off conversation, even to the point of rebel rousing enough "supporters" to join him.

Not surprised.



posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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sonsabeetches... who has time or mindset for that? Does it not reach their brain that they are peddling disinfo? pfft. Barely surprises me at this point a reply to: skalla




posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 05:52 PM
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I just read part of a thread here recently, from an Admin that stated if there was any accusation towards another member as being a shill, the accusers account would be terminated.

Also recently I read another thread from the same Admin that stated ATS will no longer tolerate "organized posters" I believe was the description given.

I am a little confused on the position of ATS staff on whether or not people are getting paid to come here and sway discussion topics and what sort of recourse is available to regular members. Are we still not allowed to call them out when it is suspected? Not that I believe that would do any good, it only gives them something to work with accusing them of being a shill when there is no way to prove it.
edit on 21-9-2014 by MALBOSIA because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 06:06 PM
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I thought this was known? And it's obvious these paid people become moderators or even buy the site somehow. Paid to not only disrupt conversations, but to remove and actually censor posts/threads.

I remember one site hipforums that literally turned into the opposite of what it claimed to stand for. The moderators are corrupt, all the normal people I conversed with years ago disappeared and the topics have turned into a trollfest.

I don't buy their act at all. Trying to rile people up, turn the tables, provoke passionate responses, debunk the topic, etc, etc.

Keep getting fat off your government, you'll be used as the fall guys. Good day, nazi shills, we know you're out there.



posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: Ziath

That guy admitted to doing it for the yucks. It was a hoax.




posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 06:21 PM
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To disrupt the internet.
To disrupt the government.
To disrupt the sky.
To disrupt the schools.
To disrupt the 'economy'.
To disrupt the food.
To disrupt the medicine.
To disrupt the water.
To disrupt the thinking.
To disrupt the world.

The only thing that isn't 'disrupted' is the 'you', unless you allow it to be disrupted.

In the end, you 'die'...what you do, is WE...everything else, is superfluous distraction.

Believe what you believe.
Do what you are meant to do.
Fear nothing.
Let the rest find out if you are right,
at the end of your story.



posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 06:26 PM
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"Narcissistic Psychopathic Sadistic Trolls Paid By Your Tax Dollars to Disrupt Internet"

Hey, you're talking about my mother. She needs to earn some cash for her daily cup of soup and second-hand coffee, she's not doing anything wrong, honest. Ma, I hope you don't see this thread, or I won't hear the end of it.



posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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Trolls and schills definitely run rampant on sites like ATS, and in the comments sections of news sites, social media, everywhere - i personally refer to them as parasitic propagandists (spelling?) but the fact of the matter is we need to fact-check and be vigilant when looking into others' statements. Sad that it is such a problem, how many people have been misled due to their activities we will never know but I refuse to let someone's comment sway me unless they can back up their accusations with hard evidence a reply to: Blackmarketeer



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 12:27 AM
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originally posted by: MALBOSIA
I am a little confused on the position of ATS staff on whether or not people are getting paid to come here and sway discussion topics and what sort of recourse is available to regular members. Are we still not allowed to call them out when it is suspected?


In my time here, I've seen a few members who seemed to be intentionally trying to derail threads by various tried-and-true methods and push agendas, so personally, I believe this site is at times a target for those sorts. We all know the NSA/other alphabet agencies are active in monitoring/manipulating internet users, so it would be rather strange if there were NOT paid shills here, especially considering the nature of ATS.
If you suspect someone of being a "shill" and have evidence, you could bring up your concern with mods in a private message or a member alert... Just don't do it publicly in a thread. When we resort to public name-calling and accusations, it drastically reduces the quality of the discussion and does nothing but to serve the interests of anyone who may actually be trying to derail the thread.



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 12:31 AM
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itd be great if there was an ats user feedback score where if people think you are a shill, they can mark that on your visible profile. Then, the poster can be better scrutinized.



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
I thought this was known? And it's obvious these paid people become moderators or even buy the site somehow. Paid to not only disrupt conversations, but to remove and actually censor posts/threads.


As far as I understand, moderator positions here are invitation-only after discussion among existing mods. I'm sure that if there was a ton of controversy around a particular member, with accusations of being a shill and causing arguments rather than honest discussion, that that person would not be invited to be a mod.
I've seen quite a few posts/threads get deleted, but in the years I've been here, I can't recall any of those instances being unjustified.



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 12:47 AM
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originally posted by: ArchPlayer
I have seen and interacted with these types here on ATS. This could be the primary reason why a lot of old time members, both official and the trollers think the place has depreciated with content and analysis. Anytime a critical conversation occurs, some overzealous "passionate" shill comes to the argument and turns it into "im the victim" off topic and off conversation, even to the point of rebel rousing enough "supporters" to join him.

Not surprised.


Pretty much. I put a lot of time into the thread("Agents Infiltrate Websites...")when this was breaking to the mainstream earlier in the year. Just calling it as a I see it with adding in experience of dealing with this activity on various net sites. I also don't believe it's more of the same(have also have commented on those threads before) as pointed out on the site sometimes.


originally posted by: Ziath
consciouslifenews.com...

^^^ take this with a grain of salt, still an interesting read involving the life and times of a modern propaganda pusher.

hoping ATS won't throw me any heat for this.


As shared already, that thread- www.abovetopsecret.com... - and similar were hoaxes. They were not far off on what is really going on however. In stead of attention grabbing it may have been a way of discrediting any previous sources or sensationalizing it as a warning-that they knew would not be taken serious but the information would be shared as it is now.



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 01:25 AM
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everybody needs a job...is it really any worse than say a lawyer or a member of the tsa ..real estate or car salesman ?



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 02:15 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

This was revealed about two years or so ago...but it didn't make much water back then.

Since we know they are here, we know they are disrupting and spreading division and preventing ideas from taking root, this is absolute proof positive your government does NOT value free speech and the free sharing of ideas and information.

Imagine that, the USA government, so apt to preach freedom around the world when it suits them, actively stifling and preventing and subverting freedom online...classic.

Which also makes it all the more curious that one of the worst rule infractions we can do here on ATS is to insinuate or outright say that another poster may be or is a paid troll or government troublemaker. I know there is certainly at least two 'members' (and they are REAL members!) that i know for sure are government propagandists.

One always casts Russia and Putin especially in a negative light at every opportunity, posting propaganda almost every day.

Many of us know some like that here don't we?

They are obviously here, probably in large numbers considering how popular ATS is around the world...yet we ought not point the finger at them, we're not to out them and we are not to tip others off to keep an eye on the type of material they are posting...curious eh?

The hypocrisy is stunning.



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: Ziath

Re: Bybyot's post, here is the thread, now hoaxed as he stated:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 22 2014 @ 05:11 AM
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originally posted by: ArchPlayer
I have seen and interacted with these types here on ATS. This could be the primary reason why a lot of old time members, both official and the trollers think the place has depreciated with content and analysis. Anytime a critical conversation occurs, some overzealous "passionate" shill comes to the argument and turns it into "im the victim" off topic and off conversation, even to the point of rebel rousing enough "supporters" to join him.

Not surprised.


I've seen this as well, but a take it as a sign that I'm getting near something the more they post.



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