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Well its nice that people have goals and such I suppose. I personally have none, or the concept is so foreign to me it even makes me ashamed to think
about. In general however the way there going about it is wrong, you got to understand the each generation is basically a click in its own, when
there looking for people even to hire for jobs there not looking for anything other then people that life in there constructed mentality and hence
Its how jobs operate, its how everything operates really, in fact most people who get jobs do so because they know somebody else or somebody knew
somebody, in some jobs I had its literally there either cousins or some long distant relative, and in one you had hundred of people going on thousands
working there, and they were all if not somehow related, at the least knew somebody there in one form or another.
In a lot of jobs its basically that, even most jobs that would take lot of school and training are pretty much generational thing. Were you would
have the most diversity is the newer tech market, and even then up to a point and only because there new markets. In all you are never and not going
to find anybody to agree fully with the newer generation, in all generations it has always been so purely because people life in pseudo realities and
each and every generation it takes a long time to coalesce into a coherent system for them. Its basically why you will never fully see eye to eye with
Its a age old problem, I have thought about how it will all come to a head. In most cases the old adage is true, to make way for the new, you must
clear the old, not because it does not work, anything can work if a group of people believes it can work and will work at making it work. But because
it is to contradictory with the new mainframe, and it does not fit. That to some point has been done in every generation, the more different a
generation the more so that would be in play, the past generation have all been pretty much the same mentally, which is why you dont see a lot more
harsh outcomes and measures out there when discrepancies occur. Now a days I dont think anybody is truly to different.
As the old facades slip and become useful only to the older concepts and ways of thought, so its not so bad. It was centuries ago were the younger
generation would take power and had to get rid of the older guard, Rome, Greece and all that comes to mind, or sometimes it was backwards and the
older mainframes would get rid of the younger generation, it was one thing which the whole tyrants thing rotated on, you know say hello to the new
boss same as the old boss, and its also a big reason why people like Socrates drank the poison cup, cant afford to dishevel the youth and disassemble
from the status que, if they all start thinking to differently from the old ways then well it will lead to dishevel, it lead there anyways, but you
It was never about anything other then the fact that there believe and structure system was mostly created to work for the generation that invented
it, even under the best of intentions that is all that can really exist. And that's the problem really, each and every generation must create there
own mental constructs to sustain such systems, and since there created by them, its only likely to work for them, and there groups or the people who
have the same mental processes in there head. And come next generation it will be the same.
So you could see now why a lot of things which were purposed in the past have no basis in reality, or this shared reality people create, its one of
the reasons why schooling will not likely guarantee success, because people do not operate out of knowledge they operate out of a sort of hive
mindedness in all areas or walks of life. Its the interpretation between what some people call hard work, and others not something they would want to
participate or put energy into perpetrating it farther, and really one of the worst things you can do is help perpetrate a system that does not work
Its the far stretches of limbo, and everybody has an opinion on it, and sometimes though rarely they even a point a view. So basically its not about
building jobs, its building coalesce groups which can operate within the same mental outlook of the world and have the same sort of mental structure,
and even the same sort of believes, and etc and all with without causing to much friction, as that would break down the whole thing. So now you see
why people argue, or why they so desperately say so and so is in the right, or its the only way to do things.
Why do you think America came so far during the world wars, or why do you think it came so far in the few generations during the beginning of the
computer age, its not so much because of hard work, or even schooling, all those things were arbitrary and in some cases not much of a factor because
the people who really got things moving were the ones who were obsess with there own thing, and it just happen to work with society at large, so while
bill gates is so popular today, he really would be nothing without his buddy's who from the age of 10 liked to spend quality time in there garage in
there parents home tinkering with gadgets. Bill Gates real talent laid in sales marketing and the fact that he had enoph money from his family to get
it all off the ground. It's more or less of the guided world view they had, and the fact that it coalesced with a lot of people.
But if you were to take that away the whole coalesce thing, trust me even the US it would all fall fast, its why when everybody things its all going
someplace that they can endure and go through anything, but when you remove that from the equation? Well its a different animal, and its generally
termed a civilizations crumbling. Civilizations and anything that involves people generally is like a story everybody wants to hear, its what keeps
them together and the whole thing moving. And the only thing distinguishing America in its rise from other nations in those days was that there story
was better then the others. And whats even more if you can control the plot of the overall story, you can even control a whole nation. But that is a
And well you add any other relevant fact you can think of to that. And you will get a clearer picture of what is going on and why people so like to
argue about such things. To questions somebody established believes and the way they view the world and there place in it or even how they came to
there place in it, is a high and heinous crime. It is also about as futile as arguing with a christian or Muslim that God or Allah does not exist so
he should stop living that way of life. It would have the same effect no matter the subject if it involves a concrete believe they have in there head
about the world at large well your not going to see eye to eye, not because it matter whether there is a god, or in this case if something in society
works or not or that this generation or that generation had it easy or are lazy, its a case that each generation is a mental construct which must rely
on those precepts to keep there world, and there believe of there world going, simply because they fit in it. And well, have you known anybody to not
support there team, especially if themself and there team is doing well? The answer is NO you haven't.
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