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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Voicing solutions is great, but HOW do we make these things happen? We can talk about it here all day, but unless someone goes out and does the work, it's just wishful thinking.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
Number two. Have you even known government run agencies and institutions to be efficient and cost effective?
originally posted by: macman
So, just because they are told to go to college by some, somehow equates to them not being able to make a decision in adulthood??
originally posted by: charles1952
Sorry, pexx421, this is way off the topic, but what period of American history had a much higher standard of living than in the years 2000 - 2008?
Oh, by the way, how would you define "Standard of Living?"
originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: jhn7537
How do you curb the out control costs of obtaining a degree?
And you seriously don't support free education?
Do you not see how free education could help the entire world?
originally posted by: Hushabye
a reply to: intrepid
So we should suffer because you suffered?
suffering + suffering begets...what again?
originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: NavyDoc the nih seems to be much better run and more cost effective than our American medical system. It has better care provided than the majority of Americans get, and costs a fraction of what we pay. Also I would imagine, though I can't back this up without looking into it, that education costs in Europe are lower than they are here.....and more people get an education. And finally, first hand experience here, whenever toll roads or utilities where I live have been privatized the cost skyrockets while service disappears. So yes, government can run things more efficiently and cheaper than private.
originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: diggindirt
I think the real problem is not in government persay it's in corporate interest controlling the government through political lobby and special dinners with prostitutes and you know what.
But you may actually have a valid point. I don't know though maybe you can provide links for us to read more about it?
originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: diggindirt You are absolutely wrong!! Back then until the 80s, all hospitals were either charity or school affiliated, And will run and affordable. It's not the inclusion of government that made them unsustainable, it's the for profit privatization!! And fyi, it's not the "run by government" that's the problem. It's that in the us, government is the executive arm of big business. So all the things you guys criticize "big government" for are actually the designs of those very businesses you purporte to be the best regulators of themselves. Doing exactly what you believe it's the greatest good, regulating and deregulating in their own best interest, at the expense of everyone else