Putting an 18 year old into 120k debt should be considered criminal

Remember in this thread your the ones consistently attacking my age group not the other way around.

originally posted by: onequestion

Oh, my failures?

Ok make it about me.

Hey, your the one bitching and moaning about jobs.
YOU made it about YOU.

originally posted by: onequestion
Where do you live west Texas?

Nope.
Was in Texas in the late 90s. Nice place.

a reply to: onequestion

Students who acquire large debts putting themselves through school are unlikely to think about changing society. When you trap people in a system of debt they can't afford the time to think. Tuition Fee increases are a disciplinary technique, and by the time students graduate, they are not only loaded with debt, but have also internalized the disciplinarian culture. This makes them efficient components of the consumer economy."

~Noam Chomsky

a reply to: peck420

Oh god ok let's go back to the civil war.

originally posted by: Coup_Detat_Cam
a reply to: onequestion

Students who acquire large debts putting themselves through school are unlikely to think about changing society. When you trap people in a system of debt they can't afford the time to think. Tuition Fee increases are a disciplinary technique, and by the time students graduate, they are not only loaded with debt, but have also internalized the disciplinarian culture. This makes them efficient components of the consumer economy."

~Noam Chomsky

Thank you.

I like your avatar by the way.

a reply to: onequestion

I am....can't speak for anyone else.

You and your age range seem to be the loudest in complaining about everything.


Can you explain this to me....at what point in your life has making excuses and complaining helped you achieve a goal?

originally posted by: Coup_Detat_Cam
~Noam Chomsky

Says the man that was paid by the proceeds of said debt...
Bad example.

a reply to: macman

Maybe we see the issues the clearest?

You keep calling it complaining. Sounds like, " I don't want to look at the issues, I'm doing fine why should I care about you?"

a reply to: peck420

Oh because he's paid by the system that he's bucking it invalidates his position?

No news flash in that statement he's bucking the system and biting the hand that feeds.

originally posted by: onequestion
Oh god ok let's go back to the civil war.

You want to make claims about how the millenials have it worse than EVER!

You best be prepared to back it up.

The millenials have a cake walk compared to the Greatest and Silent generations, let alone generations that suffered far worse than even those two examples.

a reply to: peck420

I never said we had it the worst ever I'm working towards a better future.

Please grow up.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: peck420

Oh because he's paid by the system that he's bucking it invalidates his position?

No news flash in that statement he's bucking the system and biting the hand that feeds.

No, the fact that he profited from the system...than bucked the system invalidates his position.

As it does with the vast majority of hypocrites.

a reply to: peck420

So you affective lay make it about him rather then the idea he's discussing?

You mean like the last for or five posters in this thread?

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Eleanor Roosevelt

a reply to: peck420

While that may be true, is the point made by that quote any less valid?

I think he hits the nail right on the head, even if his integrity is compromised as you claim. So yeah, maybe he's not the best "example", but the quote seems pertinant to the discussion, no?

originally posted by: onequestion
Please grow up.

So, you have run out of legitimate arguments...nope, you didn't even start with those.

I guess this was expected.

originally posted by: onequestion

Maybe we see the issues the clearest?

You keep calling it complaining. Sounds like, " I don't want to look at the issues, I'm doing fine why should I care about you?"

Yes, bitching and complaining.

If you and your age range wanted to be successful......you would go and do it.


And you are correct. I don't care about you. You are the one to care about you. There is your underlying issue. YOU need for me to care about you, to go and be successful.

The term "man-child" comes to mind. And all I envision is your need for a participation medal.

a reply to: Coup_Detat_Cam

The quote is absolutely pertinent to the discussion and I agree with it 100%.

Now, let's talk about SOLUTIONS. Not complaints. Not blame. Not attitude. SOLUTION.

What is the solution, onequestion?

(I've learned to ignore people who aren't contributing to the issue at hand.)

a reply to: macman

I actually care about the community around me. Why you want to turn that into a bad thing perplexes me.

You would be nothing alone you need the rest of America to work in order for you to work in it.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I present the solution and the problem already.

You can't solve an I identified problem.

Why don't you come up with a solution if you don't like mine.

originally posted by: Coup_Detat_Cam
While that may be true, is the point made by that quote any less valid?

I think he hits the nail right on the head, even if his integrity is compromised as you claim. So yeah, maybe he's not the best "example", but the quote seems pertinant to the discussion, no?

No, I completely disagree.

I believe that adversity, and, more specifically, how we overcome adversity, is the primary cause of societal adaptation and innovation.

Basically, we slug through the $hit while figuring out how to slug through $hit easier.