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China Unveils World's Largest Supercollider

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posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 08:52 PM
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The China are racing to build a Collider so massive that it could encircle the entire island of Manhattan; that's 80kilometers!



The collider complex is initially designed to smash together electrons and their anti-matter counterparts, and later more massive protons, at velocities approaching the speed of light. This process hopes to recreate, inside the accelerator, the hyper-energy conditions that dominated following the Big Bang, physicists aim to explore the origins of matter, energy, and space-time. China's bigger collider will ultimately be able to reach higher energy levels than CERN; this might help physicists discover a new range of particles beyond those already charted in the Standard Model of Particle Physics.



The next stage in the revolution of understanding these primary particles and forces, and their interactions, Professor 't Hooft predicts, could partially unfold in China with the construction of the electron accelerator and then the more powerful proton collider.


IT's already being said that China will attract top-notch scientists from around the world to research and conduct studies at the new facility. China is on the rise! What does ATS think about this development?

www.aljazeera.com...




posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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One of the benefits of living in a country where politicians don't need to worry about reelection .

If the desires of the American people was to invest in R&D and to boldly go, then that's what they would be doing . Seems most people would rather follow pop culture , take selfies and vote themselves a pay check .



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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I give this until tomorrow lunch time before doom porn appears...


watch the void.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: lostbook

Uhm, not to nitpick, but:

The Island of Manhattan, is only about 23 km at it's longest point and only about 6.5 km at it's widest width.

The article says it will be twice the size of the Large Hadron Collider, which is is 27 km in circumference, so that would make the one China is planning on building 54 km.

Not 80 km.

It still would be able to go around Manhattan, yes.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: L.A.B


I give this until tomorrow lunch time before doom porn appears...


LOL ... Your comment almost makes me want to go and look up all the potentials from the failed attempt in Texas. There were some pretty 'out there' uses expressed for one that big. Honestly, I just don't see it.

Overall ... I must say I'm pretty impressed with what the Chinese are capable of doing. Their 'ghost cities' boggle the mind.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

It is interesting what an army of civilised, obedient robots can achieve.




watch the void.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: L.A.B
I give this until tomorrow lunch time before doom porn appears...


watch the void.


Too bad a lot of doom porn has already been around these topics for a long time. And I believe Stephen Hawking even recently said too much power in one of these things could indeed be a disaster, but we have almost no way of producing enough energy to get there yet anyway.

Regardles, let's see if this gets finished any time soon.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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physicists aim to explore the origins of matter, energy, and space-time.

Crap. They always say that. No matter what they intend any discoveries will become weaponized. Thats what all the money to build such devices is intended to actually produce. Not some pinhole theories about the "beginning" of time.

See Verner Von Braun. His ambition to go to the moon gave birth to enough missiles to blow us all to bits.
edit on 19-9-2014 by intrptr because: bb code and change



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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When first getting ready to start LHC I kept hearing people talking about "...a catastrophic tear in the fabric of the space/time continuum." That's a great sounding phrase. Some nice word-bending there. But I don't think we would ever hear much about this incredible risk if someone had said "...a catastrophic snag in the rug of the space/time continuum" instead. A great sound byte will take you a long way in today's society.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: lostbook

China has not unveiled the worlds largest supercollider.

The title of this thread is patently false.

edit on -05:0045149362014-09-19T21:36:45-05:00 by Psynic because: changed "deliberately" to "patently"



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: L.A.B


I give this until tomorrow lunch time before doom porn appears...


LOL ... Your comment almost makes me want to go and look up all the potentials from the failed attempt in Texas. There were some pretty 'out there' uses expressed for one that big. Honestly, I just don't see it.

Overall ... I must say I'm pretty impressed with what the Chinese are capable of doing. Their 'ghost cities' boggle the mind.


They have hundreds of thousands of square miles of desert to play with as well as more money than they know to do with. USA has the land, but budget fighting killed that off. Europe doesn't really have that much spare space, so had to build theirs underground.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: lostbook
How Big a one do they need to end civilization as we know it?



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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Chinese and Western scholars at the Center for Future High Energy Physics are now sketching out rough designs for the CEPC. They will initially focus on deepening understanding of the Higgs boson, discovered at the CERN complex in 2012, and the mechanism underlying the origin of mass of subatomic particles.


Wow they want to play with higgs boson..
I hope they found something usefull for human kind, and hope the scientist and china gov not use that for bad thing..



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: cheesy

Chinese and Western scholars at the Center for Future High Energy Physics are now sketching out rough designs for the CEPC. They will initially focus on deepening understanding of the Higgs boson, discovered at the CERN complex in 2012, and the mechanism underlying the origin of mass of subatomic particles.


Wow they want to play with higgs boson..
I hope they found something usefull for human kind, and hope the scientist and china gov not use that for bad thing..


Well one can hope Cheesy but it would be a first.



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 12:29 AM
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Many a slip twixt the cup and the lip OP.
Full scale revolution in China could occur sooner than this collider does.....



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 12:30 AM
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originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: L.A.B


I give this until tomorrow lunch time before doom porn appears...


LOL ... Your comment almost makes me want to go and look up all the potentials from the failed attempt in Texas. There were some pretty 'out there' uses expressed for one that big. Honestly, I just don't see it.

Overall ... I must say I'm pretty impressed with what the Chinese are capable of doing. Their 'ghost cities' boggle the mind.


They have hundreds of thousands of square miles of desert to play with as well as more money than they know to do with. USA has the land, but budget fighting killed that off. Europe doesn't really have that much spare space, so had to build theirs underground.


And they need 100% employment to keep the people happy - thats what they are building things that will never be neeed or used or perhaps in this case work.



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 12:57 AM
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The US lost the chance when they canceled the Superconducting Super Collider in Texas.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 04:29 AM
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a reply to: Psynic
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

You're technically correct and it's a fair point. They have only unveiled plans for the largest collider, not the device itself. However, that misleading title is not the fault of our OP, who has just followed normal ATS protocol and quoted their title. It's the title of the article (linked as the source) on Al Jazeera, so they are the ones being misleading.

Al J. are not alone among news media in using misleading titles, but we have to wonder why they did so in this case.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 05:43 AM
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IT's already being said that China will attract top-notch scientists from around the world to research and conduct studies at the new facility. China is on the rise! What does ATS think about this development?


No doubt China is on the rise but it isn't built yet. Let's not go jumping to conclusions.I hope they build it better than most of their products (which are sub par.) As for the whole collider thing, it sounds like a huge waste of money to me. But i guess China needs big money holes like we do. We like to send boring robots to mars that move around at two inches an hour. I think have of NASA is a huge waste of money. I am glad to see China blowing some of its money too.


V



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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What's that saying? "you cannot stop progress"? as its China's money, land and workforce, good luck to them, I hope it works and good thing come to those who wait.



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