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originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: spy66
It amazes me, these rants and this line of reasoning that never mentions other players......just US, UK and Israle....historically present in the area. He talks about war profiteers. Hell all I see are brand new AK-47s everywhere.
originally posted by: spy66
originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: spy66
It amazes me, these rants and this line of reasoning that never mentions other players......just US, UK and Israle....historically present in the area. He talks about war profiteers. Hell all I see are brand new AK-47s everywhere.
We all know who they are, he dosent have to mention them at all.
Profiteers? Its not just the coprations who beefit from war. Soldiers, sivilians who manufacture weapons. A soldier fallows orders because he/she is paid to. Siviliance build weapons because they are paid to. Even at the end of the day non of these know that they have contributed to the WARs.
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: Logarock
We saw quite a few Russian and Chinese manufactured weapons in their movie actually. Not too many US made of anything there. Not too many of anything ISIS uses that are US made - blaming the US because someone has Russian and Chinese weapons is a bit pointless and makes one look a bit foolish as a general rule.
The whole "Oh Oh that guy has a Russian weapon.. It's the US's fault!" Hopefully you will see how that sounds right there, now... it sounds a bit different if you show proof of some trail between the US purchasing these weapons and supplying them to ISIS.. but without the trail it just sounds poorly thought out.
I like blaming the US on a lot of things, no worries there. But I am wondering why I would be discussing the US supplying weapons to ISIS (or any other US government topic) in a thread that is discussing the media not fact checking prior to publishing stories?
I suppose you would be blaming me for not cursing at the US government enough for your taste though... hatred of something does have a tendency to shine through.
Too bad its not hatred of innocent people dying - and media feeding into their hands. Since the media is the topic of conversation.
originally posted by: nenothtu
originally posted by: spy66
originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: spy66
It amazes me, these rants and this line of reasoning that never mentions other players......just US, UK and Israle....historically present in the area. He talks about war profiteers. Hell all I see are brand new AK-47s everywhere.
We all know who they are, he dosent have to mention them at all.
Profiteers? Its not just the coprations who beefit from war. Soldiers, sivilians who manufacture weapons. A soldier fallows orders because he/she is paid to. Siviliance build weapons because they are paid to. Even at the end of the day non of these know that they have contributed to the WARs.
Step back from the edge...
How in the HELL can anyone participate in a war and not know their own damned contributions?
I know all about mine, and you obviously never made any, or you would in no way ever be able to make such a patently and provably false statement.
How in the HELL can anyone build weapons and not know they've contributed to a fight? That's WHY they build weapons - to contribute to a fight!
I can see you've never been a soldier with bone-headed statements like "soldiers follow orders because they are paid to" - what a load of baloney! Soldiers follow orders because their brothers lives depend on it.
Frankly, you seem to know nothing about anything connected to conflict, going by your statements here.
My advice is not to quit your day job - you're walking into what appears to be entirely unfamiliar territory.