We don't need jobs, stop believing this lie

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

The answer to Life the Universe and Everything, as Douglas Adam's explained, is 42.

Yes, but what is the ultimate question?

Anywho...Our lives portray legal slavery at it's finest! Work to pay bills, have bills because we have to pay the people working for the bills, get that fake money to pay for things, and it goes on and on...

You have to enjoy your fake money because life can't exist without it, right? WRONG!

We were not put here to work, eat, poop, sleep, repeat for 60+ years! This Earth is amazing and everyone should be able to roam freely without our fake money system or being a slave to anyone! But this will never change, our fake money brought upon greed and once greed is inserted into any situation, greed (money & power) will rule all! It will take a catastrophic event for this to ever change, unfortunately....

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
Inspiring emotional thoughts, but...what is your template for change?
Ah, you have no plan? Just bitch about it on t'interwebs eh? lol
I'm all ears if you have something realistic to support over the current situation, but if you have nothing to share I shall just dismiss it as emotional dreaming.

a reply to: AntiDude
Read my posts to see I´m exactly thinking like you, except that planet earth is overpopulated.

a reply to: grainofsand

What's your plan?

I think working together is a great place to start.

Obviously your trying to dispute that for some unknown reason.

a reply to: verschickter

I am not saying that the earth has not enough resources or potential to feed all people. I am saying that it is not possible without people having "official" jobs.

7 Billion people can't all fend for themselves being their own boss. It's just not possible.

originally posted by: onequestion
What's your plan?

Return to quantitative valuations of currency.

Tie it to a fixed basket of base food commodities (rather than gold) and run.

a reply to: AntiDude

That's not the point your missing the point.

Let me put it in laymen's terms.

We need to learn to work together.

Much simpler to understand and conceptualize.

originally posted by: onequestion
Let me put it in laymen's terms.

We need to learn to work together.

Much simpler to understand and conceptualize.

Let's put this in laymen's terms...that is an impossible demand.

It is nigh impossible to get 1000 people working in one direction...7 billion, across a myriad of environments, multiple myriads of differing needs, different wants, different restrictions, etc.

The whole reason that trade mediums (currency) were invented was to bring an end to the ridiculous idea of having large numbers of individuals act as one balanced unit. With a common trade medium,, they don't need to. They can chase their individual wants and needs, while having a common denominator to facilitate trade between them when items of necessity, but low availability, are required.

The only mistake that was made was what they chose to value the trade medium by.

a reply to: onequestion
Nope, that's not how it works.
You made the assertions in your OP and I'm asking for your plan or framework to enable the assertions.
I am saying it is dreamland from my perspective if you have no plan...apple pie and marshmallows.

I have presented a few example questions relating to the detailed organisation of your apparent Utopia, so the onus is on you to support your argument in the OP.

a reply to: onequestion

That is an over simplification that doesn't automatically solve reallife factors.

You are talking about an Utopia that is not going to happen on this 3d plane.

a reply to: grainofsand

As a matter of fact that is how it works.

a reply to: grainofsand

Ha!

a reply to: peck420

Let's put this in laymen's terms...that is an impossible demand

Wrong.

I feel sorry for those of you who think in terms of the impossible.

It's not impossible at all it would require a lot of hard work and new social incentives.

originally posted by: onequestion
No we don't need jobs. This is one of the biggest distractions used against us. We need to work together and allow technology to replace jobs as a goal for humanity.

The job paradigm is to keep us focused on the economy which is to distract us from something...

They want to keep us from pursuing spirituality and to keep us from being curious as to our origins. It's a tool to divide us and pit us against each other.

Someone wants to keep us busy, But why?

Understand this.

lol so who is supposed to keep working to advance said technologies? You'll need supplies, transporters, fabs ect. What you're suggesting is really no different from now.

a reply to: onequestion

It's not impossible at all it would require a lot of hard work

Like a job?

a reply to: Jenisiz

Oh it wouldn't be easy to get to that point. It would even take generations.

But at least we would be working towards this goal instead of walking down a path towards destruction.

a reply to: AntiDude

No like a plan to get there in the first place.

originally posted by: onequestion
Wrong.

I feel sorry for those of you who think in terms of the impossible.

It's not impossible at all it would require a lot of hard work and new social incentives.

Than provide your plan that makes it possible.

Show us what has been passed over for the past 5,000 years.

a reply to: onequestion

Star and flag.

Much, of course, depends on your definition of "work". If you mean learning, creating, designing, directing, connecting and enjoying the fruits of it - if that is what you think is "work" - well, than I'm all for work. But if "work" is labour, pain, disgust, poverty, boredom .. I'm against it. Let machines do the boring, stupid work, they don't mind. Let humans do the creative work, let them socialize, imagine and create.

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I'm not educating you in this thread.