originally posted by: TXRabbit
totally contradicts the rise in MMA viewership and coverage
MMA is not real, not fake mind you, but still not real. I'll explain.
First, I would argue that there are definitely "unspoken" rules that limit severe injuries in televised MMA fights. If it were REAL fighting there
would be recurring deaths or career ending injuries in the ring. Since we don't see anything like that, it assures me MMA not real. In my mind, MMA
resides in a funny limbo between Pro-Boxing and WWE/WWF. Basically there are two guys whom are really hitting each other, but with a certain degree of
scripting and holding back punches, through physical training geared entirely toward rules maximization and not injury inducing blows.
I can take it even further. On the high side, Pro boxing has had THOUSANDS of deaths over the decades and there have been a little over 40
cheer-leading deaths since 1982. Guess how many MMA deaths there have been, in a sport which claims grown men, at the peak of physical fitness, wail
on eat other at full strength?
A whopping 8 people in sanctioned events since 1993.
So I'm supposed to believe its more dangerous to be a high school cheerleader, than a pro-MMA fighter? Can anyone say WWE/WWF! I can.
Second, its a closed system, which is designed to prevent no-names from coming off the street and knocking the blocks off of cash-cows, whom have had
a lot of money invested in their image, or worse, killing someone in the ring. Rich people don't like losing money due to no-names, mixing it up
unannounced, making the established cash cows look bad. Same goes for pro-boxing, but I'd argue, much less so. Look at Ronda Rousey, for example, an
attractive, former judo champion, whom was skilled at near Olympic level. Is she athletic? Absolutely. Is she strong and in peak shape for her
weight class? Absolutely. Does she have discipline? You have to assume she does. Is she hungrier to win than some ghetto kid off the street? Not a
chance. If MMA were an open system, a millionaire, whom invests in fighters, could take anyone off the street and train them in MMA for a few years,
with the intent of beating the Ronda Rousey-types, whom were brought up in upper middle class homes with access to the best trainers since grade
school. In boxing this happens quite a bit, look at Mike Tyson for example. So where is the "Mike Tyson" of MMA, who was found on the street,
trained and groomed like a Thoroughbred horse, in order to woop the Rhonda Rousey types? They don't exist and even if they do, they will never get to
fight the cash cows. MMA has been known to throw winning fighters out of the league because they are "boring" to watch. I assume, being someone who
can end a fight in seconds, has to be bad for MMA business.
I also don't want to get into to much of a hearsay argument, but I saw quite a few LIVE qualification matches back in the early days of MMA, with
fights ending in under 1 minute. Those guys were INSTANTLY disqualified from further participation and were added to a "black list". Basically these
kinds of fights can't make money and are HORRIBLE for the gambling circuit, so those skilled fighters were shown the door. I'll admit I haven't
followed MMA since the early 90's, but there is far more money at stake today than back then, so you can be quite sure, portions of what you see are
Now some will say show me the video, well, the videos are not available commercially and as far as I know the UFC has no intention of releasing them.
To clarify further on my experience when I was involved in the full-contact, no-pads, non-Olympic Taekwondo circuit (very big in Korea, practically
nonexistent in the USA), I was traveling with one of my coaches whom was helping prep a fighter for the then, somewhat new, UFC. The group I was
working with had trained a couple of low-brow, K1 fighters and assumed the UFC would be run in the same manner. They were totally surprised to find
out that the UFC wanted entertaining fighters and not skilled fighters. They had recorded some of these fights to study and I attended one day in
person at the pre-quals. So I can only relay what I saw on VHS tape, the one day I was onsite and the follow up stories I heard after the fighters
were black listed.
One match that I clearly remember on a VHS tape made by my coach, was an older fighter (mid to late 40's) from Japan, he was a 5th Dan Shotokan
master. He ended his match in less than 30 seconds with a strike to the neck of his opponent breaking his collar bone, however he broke his hand in
the process. He was not allowed to proceed obviously due to his hand. HOWEVER, he was bared from entering the following years qualification matches.
That took him and many others in that community by surprise. After that I was told many of the more traditional martial arts practitioners stopped
attempting to enter UFC because they felt it was rigged like pro wrestling.
originally posted by: Ettenurb
Hypothesis: The NFL is trying to attract female viewership, as evidenced by the players wearing pink during Breast Cancer Awareness month. I believe
that they are trying to re-brand themselves as female friendly in order to attract more female viewers to the sport. The current hammering by the
media of domestic violence issues is just a marketing ploy in my opinion. It's a way for the NFL to tell everyone, "we care, please watch our
Its my opinion that college and pro sports in the USA is big sham. We haven't seen the best athletes makes the various teams in decades. Are a few
outstanding? Absolutely, but its my opinion that the "selection process" always cuts out those whom could shame the middle performers, which the team
owners, trainer and coaches have invested "capital" in, versus those who walk in off the street and have nothing invested in them from the
I'll give the an example, Erik Swoope a former college basketball player, WHOM NEVER PLAYED FOOTBALL, signed with the Indianapolis Colts as an
undrafted free agent. The decision to do so was based entirely off his combine performance and computer analysis mumbo-jumbo. I highly doubt Erik is
better than all the other undrafted guys whom actually played the game before.
In modern, 21st century sports at all levels, college, amateur and pro. We are NOT seeing the best people in ANY professional leagues today, be it,
MMA, NBA, NFL, NASCAR, you name it. Now, that doesn't mean the leagues are filled entirely with chumps, however, its my opinion that the great talents
whom did make it, are competing against the equivalent of "chumps", so as, to make their "stars" shine brighter than they truly deserve. The last
thing pro league and colleges want is a true no-name talent coming in off the street and rocking their cash cows. I gave up on watching American
sports a LONG time ago when I saw this trend starting. Its in full swing now and is only going to get worse.
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