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Or are they murderous, mindless, villians?
There are too many around us, and that may include you, who express this sentiment about our armed forces "our heores" conversely the same can express disdain for the administration. Is this duplicity? Yes, it would seem so.
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Ok, as much as I disapprove of the war and of president bush, I disagree with a lot of your points here.
First of all a hero is somebody who goes above and beyond the call of duty. Somebody who puts his or her own life on the line or sacrafices his or her life for somebody else. All the soldiers are not heroes. Jessica Lynch a hero? Hell nah. The media labels her one, but in reality she was just a POW. She screwed up and drove right into the enemy's hands. You could call the people that rescued her heroes.
Anyways, you can't bash the troops like that. They are making the ultimate sacrafice of risking their lives. How many of you have risked your lives for a cause? I thought we learned this from Vietnam.
Not everyone in the military is sadistic and rapes kids. I guess it's like they say.. One bad apple spoils the bunch.
Honestly, you can't blame them. They're just doing their job.
Please. Supporting your troops is not the same as supporting the war. I want our troops to come home as soon as possible. They shouldn't be in that situation. I'm not going to go as far as putting one of those lame ribbons on my car, but I will always support the men and women who risk their lives. Nothing but respect.
Originally posted by Trent
From what i have heard about the US military they are very honerable people and the generals probably care a heck of a lot more about each soldier that dies than their civilian commanders in the government. They understand the reality of war and do their job to the best of their ability. I think a lot of the problems that they are having and have had in the past are because of civilians at the pentagon messing with long standing rules of war, restructing the military and pushing for using less troops and equipment than they would like to use in situations. I saw a documentry about this tonight, it was insightful.
So who are you? A nationalist or a patriot?
For them to be our heroes, you must know the following to be true:
1. They are genuinely heroes that protect and serve the people by putting their own lives at stake. After all they have gone to a foreign country to liberate people from evil.
or
2. They are family or friends sent to war, therefore they must be your "heroes"
or
3. They are our armed forces, therefore they must be "our heroes"
But, it appears the first one is not true. I think it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that the people of Iraq are not being protected or liberated, except we could say 100,000+ Iraqi's have been liberated from their bodies, i.e. killed. Nor, does it take a rocket scientist to figure out, that some dozens, if not hundreds of Iraqi's being abused in prison camps, or forced by the barrel of a gun to be marked with DNA and retina scans, is protection.
Are "our heroes" criminals? Actually, maybe a lot of them are. Did you not know that criminals are drafted into the US army. They are given a choice: "Go to jail or join the army" I wonder how many have chosen "go to prison". Of course, such criminal actions of "our heroes" are not just confined abroad.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Originally posted by Trent
From what i have heard about the US military they are very honerable people and the generals probably care a heck of a lot more about each soldier that dies than their civilian commanders in the government. They understand the reality of war and do their job to the best of their ability. I think a lot of the problems that they are having and have had in the past are because of civilians at the pentagon messing with long standing rules of war, restructing the military and pushing for using less troops and equipment than they would like to use in situations. I saw a documentry about this tonight, it was insightful.
I've also seen documentaries calling the Nazi's intelligent, enlightened and honourable people. Some advice: Don't believe everything you hear; question everything.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Where in Iraq are the Iraqi's being forced to "marked" with DNA and retina scans at the barrel of a gun?
So what? Are you aware that Australia was founded largely with convicts from overflowing British prisons? By your standards, this means that all Australians are vile, wicked, and evil.
It's so terrible that the US is the only oppressive, genocidal, murdering nation on earth, isn't it? Your heroes - or is it heores, please make up your mind, I thought Crystalline Children were supposed to be brighter than that - are so much purer and innocent. Lucky you.
Originally posted by Bikereddie
How many people would honestly want to do their job?
To me, my son will always be a hero..........
If I ever want to be a known as a hero, all I do is go to war, lose a limb or two, and get a medal for my heroism. ~ rolling eyes indeed.
Originally posted by syntaxer
When the government implements the draft and fellow American citizens are forced to fight to survive who overcome all odds while facing death shall then be considered "true heroes".
I disagree i think it's braver and thus more heroic to join willingly knowing full well you may be called apon by your country and asked to fight to defend it's way of life.