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Do Democrats Break More Laws?

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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

you seem to be confused.
on the one hand you gripe because the dems want to remove your right to smoke cigarettes and dictate what you eat and drink but then you also use their desire to legalize pot as in support of your position???
there seems to be a conflict in your logic somewhere???
but to answer your question:
criminals break more laws! and they seem to be all over the place.

www.nytimes.com...

this is just one instance (and the corruption is shared by both parties also) of the corruption at the top. Elected officials being bought off and doing the bidding of their masters instead of we the people.
Cure that and then let's see where we are at?



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 08:37 AM
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A lot of politicians believe the laws do not apply to them. These guys should be sent to fight Ebola. We can handle only having fifty congressmen and no president. Just think of all the money the taxpayers would save.
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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE


When, during a rep controlled white house, did the IRS get caught targeting dems?

When Bush was in office the IRS went after the NAACP for two years straight.


When did reps try to legalize illegal drugs?

Ron Paul has called for years to legalize all illegal drugs.


When did rep related groups of thugs intimidate voters?

You should watch the News more often. The GOP candidate for Governor of Ill sent ARMED thugs around to libertarians to make them sign an affidavit saying their signature on a petition was gained by fraudulent means.


When did the DOJ start using race to decide when to intervene?

When hasn't the DOJ start using race to intervene? The DOJ has always prosecute cases like they are now people never complained about it before because a white man had the job.


When did a right group like Acorn exist, telling people how to break laws and get away with it, etc.?

Can you show some proof of this? Besides the highly edited video that one loser made and got editing what they people said to make it look like they were saying something that in reality they really weren't saying.


When did reps not want people who enter the USA illegally, to be punished?

Every hear of a person called Ronald Reagan? He gave amnesty to all illegals.
My advice to you is to stop watching what is being passed off as news because it isn't news.



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You admitted in your OP that you are hugely conservative. For a while, while reading topics on this website, I started to lean more conservative in my views and found myself agreeing with Republicans more often. Then I took a step back and applied the same BS detection measures to those posts that I was applying to left leaning ones and found that they were largely the same. So I'd say that your confirmation bias is making you look into the past with rose colored glasses.

Do you not remember these?
Rape and pregnancy controversies in United States elections, 2012

Here are some more:
Can Congressman Trey Radel Survive A Drug Bust?
Orange County Republican leader Robert Krahulik asked to resign over lewd photos

Speaking of unconstitutional agendas we have this:
House Republicans Pass Sweeping Anti-Abortion Bill
Lobbyists quietly advise GOP on gay marriage shift (This article is about changing positions, but the article does say that majority of republicans are opposed to this)
Republicans Tackle Scourge Of Welfare In Weed Stores (because people TOTALLY aren't using welfare to buy cigarettes and alcohol...)
Welfare Drug Testing

Is that enough examples for you?



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 09:14 AM
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Republicans:

Rick Perry
Tom Delay
Larry Craig
David Rivera
Rick Renzi
Trey Radel
John Ensign
Michael Grimm
Annette Bosworth
Samuel B. Kent
Maj. Gen. George Weightman
Maj. Gen. Kevin C. Kiley
Felipe Sixto
Timothy Goeglein
Lewis Libby
Alphonso Jackson
Richard J. Griffin
Howard Krongard
Lawyergate includes 8 to 10 other people

This list isn't even close Republicans are deeply involved in illegal activity just look at this wiki page:

wiki

If the media you watched wasn't so biased you would know these things.

It really shows how uninformed foxnews viewers really are.

The top 2 administrations on the list are George W Bush and Ronald Reagan!!!!!


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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 09:35 AM
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Here is a list of American federal politicians convicted of crimes from Wikipedia.
Only 2 names for almost the first century..... It seems that our politicians have become more criminal as time wears on.
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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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No republicans break more laws. Nixon, Gov. McDonnell of Virginia more recently. Dems break more marriages and can't seem to keep the puppy chained up.



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:07 AM
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That's not breaking laws they're just political moves you're not happy with.
I believe that Ronald Regan proclaimed ketchup to be a vegetable in schoolunches btw.a reply to: WeAreAWAKE



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Breaking laws and getting caught are two different things.

I can tell you right now that solely based on history that Republicans get away with more than Democrats do. That's because they are truly in control of the government. And arguably the Republicans have committed the most heinous.

Yet, AnteBellum makes a more valid point - they are all the same thing. So, while we engage in this debate for fun, the reality is it doesn't matter!
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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:12 AM
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Dude the state's legalized pot. The feds still have it as a schedule one. Someone just wants to dictate how a person gets a buzz it sounds to me. Alcohol is ok but pot is baaad. reply to: WeAreAWAKE



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Dude the state's legalized pot. The feds still have it as a schedule one. Someone just wants to dictate how a person gets a buzz it sounds to me. Alcohol is ok but pot is baaad. reply to: WeAreAWAKE


Alcohol kills far more people, that's for sure.

Face it, they don't really pass laws with our health in mind.



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:16 AM
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What that says to any thinking person is Obama and Clinton told the truth and George W. lied. You see that differently?a reply to: WeAreAWAKE



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Dems and lefties are more prone to push for legalizing marijuana and for granting amnesty to people that were illegally brought into America by an adult when they were children... Can't break a law if there isn't one to break. The rest is paranoid propaganda.



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

If anything, your entire OP seems to be a bit of a rant that's pretty much based on your dislikes as opposed to actual law breaking and definitely not worthy of posting in the "Breaking Political News" forum.

Furthermore, if you're going to assert that certain people have broken the law, it would be helpful if you could provide evidence of their convictions for said offenses, or at the very least some indictments.

As far as I can tell, not a single person, (democrat or republican) has been charged for any of the so-called "crimes" on your list and the fact that you maintain the perception of sainthood with respect to republicans, is a clear demonstration of your self induced ignorance on the subject. Especially coming in the same week that Gov. Bob McDonnell & his wife are convicted on over a dozen counts of fraud and corruption & Gov. Rick Perry gets indicted for abuse of power.






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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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Going back to the Nixon administration there have been 41 convictions of republicans, and in the same time there has also been 41 convictions of democrats. More recent have favored the republicans in the 70's there were more democrats.

Scandals heavily favor the republicans under Nixon, Bush and W Bush.

Democrats can't compete with-
Watergate
Iran Contra
Libbygate
Lawyergate
Iraq invasion
Yellowcake
NSA illegal surveillance
Jack Abramoff Scandal

Republicans own the major scandals of our time.
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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Asking that question demonstrates the irrelevancy of the question itself.

When we engage in a debate on which political party breaks more laws instead of being outraged that any laws at all were broken...

We need to reevaluate our priorities.


SM2

posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: Flatfish

To be fair, if you look up expelled federal elected officials and reprimanded and censured federal politicians, the list is heavily populated democrats, more so than republicans. Same with politicians convicted of crimes, some of the most common ones are extortion, bribery , obstruction of justice, and crimes of a sexual nature, such as child pornography, sex with a minor and groping of make staffers. That being said, there is a generous sprinkling of republicans on those same lists, however, the majority are democrats.

As was mentioned before, I think it is a case if dems getting caught more often, as most politicians are professional liars with a messiah complex, just look at Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and John Boehnor .



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: SM2

Considering how wrong the op was I have to assume you watch the same media so you would be wrong as well, lets look and see shall we?


Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) Married Senator and vocal critic of Clinton's affair, pled guilty to disorderly conduct in a Minneapolis airport men's room, after having been arrested on a charge of homosexual lewd conduct.(2007)

Bill Janklow (R-SD) convicted of second-degree manslaughter for running a stop sign and killing a motorcyclist. Resigned from the House and given 100 days in the county jail and three years probation.

Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) Was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)

Michael Myers (D-Pennsylvania) Received suspended six-month jail term after pleading no contest to disorderly conduct charged stemming from an incident at a Virginia bar in which he allegedly attacked a hotel security guard and a cashier.

J. Irving Whalley (R-Pennsylvania) Received suspended three-year sentence and fined $11,000 in 1973 for using mails to deposit staff salary kickbacks and threatening an employee to prevent her from giving information to the FBI.


The list didn't include bribery, fraud, obstruction, or any white collar crime.
wiki

Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and John Boehnor have not been charged nor convicted of any crime.
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posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

In a way I agree with you if you look back a decade or 2 decades the republicans are the law breakers you have to go all the way back to the Nixon administration to even the list of law breakers. Comparing the number of scandals is a complete different story, the republicans have many more scandals than the democrats, with some of these scandals involving straight up treason.

But for republicans to come out and claim they have some moral authority on the subject is utter ridiculous.



posted on Sep, 16 2014 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'll sum this up for you - Liberalism / Progressivism is a product of age for the most part.
I'm a firm believer that as you age, you wise up and realize the world is simply not as simple and easy as you thought it was when you were younger. Combine this with a rapidly growing population (who is the younger generation now) and you'll start to see trends.

People typically gravitate towards Conservatism & Republican ideologies as they age. This doesn't make human beings any less corrupt (true for both sides) but typically this stands true. Hence much of the griping about the "Boomer" generation glued to fox news constantly. Unfortunately, what this means for us "right" wingers is that if we cannot slow population growth, or extend life expectancies and not win over the youth, Conservatism is doomed to always be behind the power curve as populations continue to grow.

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