a reply to: Grimpachi
Well Grim, thanks. Your thoughts are fine and precise, and deserve a response. It's the sharing that should matter most, especially since we all
have a point of view. These views must be shared, not forced or argued. The ultimate desire of Wisdom is purity and peace. Humanities greatest
potential rest in is it's logic. But, some of our biggest problems are confusion, selfish-ambition and division. Even bigger problems develop when
some consider other's view invaluable or non-existent. Ultimately, true wisdom needs no one to validate it; it's fruit is the greatest evidence.
With this mind I would like to respond to some of your comments:
1. You say: "I have disputed religous beliefs on here quite a bit but not by simply saying it was dumb but by actually critiquing the reasons someone
felt their beliefs to be valid. Especialy in cases where someone claims to have proof their belief is valid. If something is illogical or based on
faulty reasoning I can't help but point out how. I don't know if that makes me militant or not."
My thoughts: It is good to question, especially religion. Flaws exist in them all. Any time we do not question, we are subject to assume one way or
the other. Human thinking was intended to be pure, and will be in due time for those who desire such. In this way, logic wisely considers all
potential needs, possibilities, risk, without fail. But until that time, the gift of critical thinking and observation, which is what you are using.
Keep it up. By questioning, you may be saving a life. For example, look at such incidents as the killing of Malcolm X by members of his group -
Nation of Islam, or the mass suicide of members following Jim Jones and David Kiresh. If these followers had simply used complete logic of critical
thinking, and if I might add, along with with God's voice speaking within, they would not have died such shameful deaths. They may have helped to
stop the madness that unfortunately continues to motivate many others to follow the lies of ideology today. You name it, any belief can be an idea
people accept. The greatest threat is when we blindly do so, or despite logical conclusion. That is simply unwise, un-natural to our true being.
Ultimately, the divine plan is for all humans to share an accord of perfection, where discord of opinions no longer exist, but instead view points
that compliment and reflect individual perspectives, according to personal spiritual maturity, working well together for common good of all. As for
militancy: this may be the case or simply excessive zealotry, but either way - spiritual maturity knows better and does what is right all the time,
even if in the case of our present humanity, we make a mistake or are wrong. In that situation, we'll at least admit it, and try to make the
situation better, not worse.
2. ("As an example: If someone starts a thread on the premise that god belief is illogical would they be considered a militant atheist and by the
same token someone else started a thread saying Jesus saves would they be judged in the same light as hard core theist?" )
My thoughts: Both should be viewed in the same light: what is their premise, presentation and purpose. Many times this is stated, without the sharer
even realizing it. - (By their fruits you shall know them - Matthew chapter 7) As critical thinking examines the conversation and actions, much is
revealed in what is or is not allowed. By this, we can also know the motives and the source; whether pure or at least of good intent or not. I hope
my explanation makes sense. If not, let me know. Thanks for sharing, keep up the good work.