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US wanted Ukraine to become a member and now have an excuse, have you actual read what I wrote in my post, "possible NATO membership in the future?"...and Russia has warned about not doing that, so if the West is stupid enough to still go on with it later on, you can expect fireworks then.
Ukraine has had a partnership with NATO since the 1990s, sending troops to work with the alliance in Iraq and Afghanistan, but the nature of the partnership remained loose. President Viktor Yushchenko hoped to change that. He had been swept to power during the 2004-2005 Orange Revolution, protests that were prompted by reports of electoral fraud. Yushchenko promised the protesters a future that did away with Ukraine's corrupt, Kremlin-dominated past. Much like Georgia, another former Soviet state seeking to shake off Russian influence, Ukraine saw NATO membership as one route to independence and sought membership in 2008.
Russia and China are regional powers. Russia is more busy fending off the NATO encroachment on its borders and resulting geopolitical insecurities.
NO. The smaller states always seek association with larger states as they feel vulnerable. There have been no significant incidents since the fall of USSR that caused these States to join NATO.
Expansion of NATO is West's policy.
originally posted by: GargIndia There have been no significant incidents since the fall of USSR that caused these States to join NATO.
Everything occurring since the Russian invasion of Ukraine is solely the fault of Putin.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: GargIndia There have been no significant incidents since the fall of USSR that caused these States to join NATO.
The collapse of the Soviet Union, and the opportunity for nations occupied by the USSR, was the significant event that caused those former SSR's to join NATO / EU.
No amount of blame is going to change the fact Putin tried for a land grab and got called out by Ukraine. Everything occurring since the Russian invasion of Ukraine is solely the fault of Putin.
originally posted by: itchy_tartan_blanket
a reply to: tsurfer2000h
Ukraine cannot become a member of NATO due to it having an active land dispute within its borders. To join NATO it must give up any claim to Crimea.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: GargIndia There have been no significant incidents since the fall of USSR that caused these States to join NATO.
The collapse of the Soviet Union, and the opportunity for nations occupied by the USSR, was the significant event that caused those former SSR's to join NATO / EU.
No amount of blame is going to change the fact Putin tried for a land grab and got called out by Ukraine. Everything occurring since the Russian invasion of Ukraine is solely the fault of Putin.
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: itchy_tartan_blanket
Destabilization of Russia was never a goal thats just a lie. Truth is the US pumped millions into the Russian economy instead of letting it collapse. If they wanted to destroy Russia they could have easily by doing nothing. Instead they gave money set up international banking gave access to IMF set up treaties joint exercises gave them office's in NATO headquarters. Even had Russians participating with NORAD in joint excersizes. Reality is Putin needed a fall guy so no one would notice he was setting up a dictatorship. He has removed most of the freedoms they gained but is trying to distract the Russian people witha fake conflict hoping they wont notice until its to late much like Hitler did in Germany.
originally posted by: GargIndia
Can you convert the above paragraph you wrote into hard numbers? How much Russia gained from West and how much West gained from Russia - we shall compare?
“Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself,” wrote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Decades later, this is an apt description of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Putin blames the West for Russia’s problems, and justifies his authoritarian crackdown with the need to protect Russia from perceived external enemies. His latest pronouncement of this view came on October 1. “We see that other countries try to use their dominant position in the global information space for reaching not only economic, but political-military aims,” he said during a Russian National Security Council meeting.
Behind Putin’s finger-pointing to the West is a conviction that active dissent in Russia, and in similar authoritarian states, cannot occur on its own. Only with outside assistance could the people rebel against the autocrat. Putin is mediocre, and cannot look beyond his authoritarian worldview. He cannot imagine that people themselves, on their own free will, would choose to organize a protest and demand an accountable government.
Indeed, Putin blamed the West for the 2004 Orange Revolution in Ukraine which sprung as a result of government corruption and brought about a democratic breakthrough. “Putin sincerely believes that ‘Orange Revolutions’ in Ukraine were instigated by the US State Department and that Kiev’s Association Agreement with the European Union is an EU conspiracy to take dominance of Ukraine,” said one Russian political analyst in September 2004, “He hates the West for it…”