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"Sword-Wielding" Utah Man Shot in the Back by Police, Says Independent Autopsy

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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:42 AM
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...and the results of that autopsy appear to jive with eyewitness testimony:


SARATOGA SPRINGS, Utah (AP) -- The family of a 22-year-old black man who was fatally shot by police in Utah is disputing investigators' statements that he was shot after he lunged at officers with a sword and that race played no role in the shooting.

Randall Edwards, an attorney for the family of Darrien Hunt, said an independent autopsy requested by the family shows Hunt was shot "numerous times, all from the rear" in Saratoga Springs, about 35 miles south of Salt Lake City.

"This is consistent with statements made by witnesses on the scene, who report that Darrien was shot to death while running away from police," Edwards said in a statement released Saturday night. "It would appear difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile these facts with a story that Darrien was lunging toward the officers when he was shot."

AP

Consistent, and now completely un-shocking. But somehow I doubt the folks in Utah are going to be proactive in holding the cops accountable, unfortunately. That's the worst part.


According to a statement issued by Utah County Chief Deputy Attorney Tim Taylor, “When the officers made contact with Mr. Hunt, he brandished the sword and lunged toward the officers with the sword, at which time Mr. Hunt was shot. There is currently no indication that race played any role in the confrontation between Mr. Hunt and the police officers.”

Bystanders have disputed the police account, with one, Jocelyn Hansen, saying Hunt appeared to be having a normal conversation with the officers.

“They had stopped him, and they were all having a conversation,” said Hansen, who was parked nearby at the gas station. “It didn’t look escalated or heated at all.”

Hansen said she had turned away before hearing gunfire.

“When I looked up, I saw the young man turning away from the police, and I saw what I thought were two 2×4’s in his hands, one in each hand,” Hansen said. “Then I saw police officers running after him, and they could have both had guns, but I saw one for sure with his gun extended.”

Raw Story

It certainly doesn't sound like a situation requiring deadly force.

And of course, what would any police brutality story be without the race card being immediately played at all angles? Sigh. It's so much bigger of a problem than that.


The police department posted a defiant statement on its Facebook page Sunday afternoon.

"Everyone should remember that the news outlets have ratings they need to gain. They don't report facts. They use innuendo, opinion and rumor and then report it as fact," said the unsigned post on the police department's Facebook page, which requested patience with the investigation. "The same thing happens here on FB and other social media. The real facts are being determined by an independent investigation, and not in a rushed or haphazard manner. ... There is no coverup and there is no corruption."

LA Times

Starting to get a little touchy about people calling your BS, are you?

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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:46 AM
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Its something that is so sickening. They do this to terrorize the public, but it really just infuriates and makes the public dig in its heels against the tyranny.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:50 AM
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a reply to: NthOther




According to a statement issued by Utah County Chief Deputy Attorney Tim Taylor, “When the officers made contact with Mr. Hunt, he brandished the sword and lunged toward the officers with the sword, at which time Mr. Hunt was shot.



that was from you source...he must have been lunging backwards...like a power ranger..

well it isnt really a surprise the cops are out of control,and shooting anyone that looks like they could be dangerous ...very sad state of affairs



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:50 AM
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originally posted by: Unity_99

Its something that is so sickening. They do this to terrorize the public, but it really just infuriates and makes the public dig in its heels against the tyranny.

Intentional provocation. They're trying to piss us off so we'll react in a way that justifies the deployment of their insidious "preparations".

Well, they're doing a damn good job of it.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:57 AM
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a reply to: NthOther
A question!..,
What means "I thought were two 2×4’s in his hands",
Does it mean he had 2 quarters in his hands?.., (just a gues).

Sorry!, but English isn't my first language.

thx in advance! :-)


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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: NthOther

I know how the Police have a policy of Shooting 'Center mass' and with the objective of eliminating a threat but if the guy is running away from you why not atleast try to aim for the legs??

Peace



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:03 AM
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originally posted by: D0MiNAT0R 1OOO
a reply to: NthOther
A question!..,
What means "I thought were two 2×4’s in his hands",
Does it mean he had 2 quarters in his hands?.., (just a gues).

Sorry!, but English isn't my first language.

thx in advance! :-)



You've cracked me up on a thread where I was outraged. 2x4 is 2 inches by 4 inches, it means wood:



See? 2 inches, by 4 inches, by however long. We just say 2x4s, spelled out it would be 'two by fours.'



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:04 AM
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originally posted by: D0MiNAT0R 1OOO

What means "I thought were two 2×4’s in his hands"

It's a piece of wood, 2 inches tall and 4 inches wide (and however long), commonly used in construction. Why he would be walking around with them is beyond me. Cops probably just shot another crazy person because they're retarded jocks.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:06 AM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime

I know how the Police have a policy of Shooting 'Center mass' and with the objective of eliminating a threat but if the guy is running away from you why not atleast try to aim for the legs??

No. You don't shoot someone running away from you, with the possible exception of when you're in a war zone.

Is domestic law enforcement at war with the American people?

Surely not.




posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:07 AM
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a reply to: Ameilia
Ameilia & NthOther Thx for your quick answers!!!



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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:12 AM
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a reply to: NthOther

Yeah I know....(I was being sarcastic)

Just came from an other police-thread and believe me, we the public do not understand the dangers of being a Police officer. Any threat will be handled with extreme prejudice because they want to safely return home after work....or something like that.

Peace


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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: D0MiNAT0R 1OOO
a reply to: NthOther
A question!..,
What means "I thought were two 2×4’s in his hands",
Does it mean he had 2 quarters in his hands?.., (just a gues).

Sorry!, but English isn't my first language
thx in advance! :-)





think of "the rock" in walking tall




posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 03:27 AM
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originally posted by: Ameilia

originally posted by: D0MiNAT0R 1OOO
a reply to: NthOther
A question!..,
What means "I thought were two 2×4’s in his hands",
Does it mean he had 2 quarters in his hands?.., (just a gues).

Sorry!, but English isn't my first language.

thx in advance! :-)



You've cracked me up on a thread where I was outraged. 2x4 is 2 inches by 4 inches, it means wood:



See? 2 inches, by 4 inches, by however long. We just say 2x4s, spelled out it would be 'two by fours.'


Not to derail the OP, but a 2x4 is actually 1 1/2"x 3 1/2". Rounds up for a easier way to translate.

Back on topic, if any truth to the OP, I'm scared to see a cop on my job site now. What if one comes up to me with questions and I'm holding a hotsaw?(a 12" gas powered chop saw, kinda like a chainsaw. It's just as mean)
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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: NthOther

Yup it really does seem like they're trying to piss us off. The media would seem to be in on it as well, if not a foolish partner at least.

Problem is we've playing by the rules which seem to be not what they want. We follow the rules they set be for us making changes they can't challenge. But our ability to make the changes is getting smaller everyday. We're being pushed to break the rules they set be for us so that they can break the rules set be for them, even if they're already doing so.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 08:07 AM
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Shooting a man in the back has always been considered an act of cowardice and murder. The code of the west said you didn't do it. A man not facing you wasn't a threat,

Seems police are now trying to justify their use of it.

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Training needs to include watching reruns of Bonanza, Gunsmoke and the Rifleman.
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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 08:20 AM
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Wow, this won't be a popular opinion here, but WTH was the guy doing with a sword?? You can't keep putting others actions on the police. Why was this guy walking around with a sword?? He could have killed anyone. Until I hear more news on this, the man is responsible FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS......Now I want to wait for the rest of this story to come out. If anything, I'm thinking, some are wanting to test the officers. You wanna walk around with a deadly weapon, you pay the consequences...I read the 1st article, I didn't see a mention of 2 by 4's?? I will keep my eye on this thread for further info. Thanks for posting OP



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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Executed because he might or could commit a crime. That group would actually include everyone.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: j.r.c.b.
WTH was the guy doing with a sword??


A. It was a souvenir sword (rounded blade) he got at an Asian market around the corner.
B. There's nothing illegal about it. (Why do people carry guns?)
C. Most importantly, in today's environment, what black man in his right mind would "brandish" anything at a cop? He'd have to know it would be his very last action.

These cops are lying pieces of crap. One more innocent black man shot in the back multiple times for the crime of being in public while black...



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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Leading causes of death among minorities:

Heart Disease.

Police interaction.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: Unity_99
Its something that is so sickening. They do this to terrorize the public, but it really just infuriates and makes the public dig in its heels against the tyranny.


Perhaps that's the point. I've said it before and I will say it again - TPTB don't want to be the bad guy. They want to prove that martial law and militant policing is a necessary step to curb an out-of-control group of citizens that are tired of the tyranny. But those that are still taking the blue pill will be all too happy for TPTB to do away with the type of citizens that prefer freedom and liberty.

They are having a hard time pushing citizens into the state they want them. Stay frosty.




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