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North Korea jails US man Matthew Miller for six years

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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: TDawgRex

The US government actually performed a raid on an IS compound in an attempt to free the prisoners, including those already killed by IS. Obviously the raid was unsuccessful, but it shows that the US government actually tried to do something.


Yea, I realize that. But I am also of the mindset of, if at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. They didn't and actively hindered the family from trying to pay off the ransom. It was the family and those who donated...not the Gov't. If it cost the taxpayers nothing, and got the family their son back...why would the Gov't put a stop to it?



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:03 PM
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So lets see. Mr obama stamp feet and draw line..... Yelling at little kim to release him or face to be bomb back to stone age. Kim say no america got another war. After a few years of war new president blame obama for still being there and send more troops. Afganistan and iraq v 2.0. a reply to: crazyewok



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: Therealjohndoe
So lets see. Mr obama stamp feet and draw line..... Yelling at little kim to release him or face to be bomb back to stone age.


Or he could skip to plan D.

Send in Dennis Rodman.




posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: crazyewok

Well, maybe he heard of their awesome Munsu water-park and just couldn't resist?
uritours.com...


What's the "party founding monument"?? It says it's something to do with the late Kim Jung il , did he invent partying? I know there was rumours of him being a party animal but...



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 04:09 PM
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Maybe the guy as some mental health problems, if even some of what is coming out of the DPRK is true it doesn't sound like anything a rational person would .
It's one of the things I truly like about America is that it will go all out to rescue one of its citizens trapped abroad, still shows that glimmer of what America once was.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: jude11

Yeah, that he's an idiot.

No bigger message gained than that.

Peace



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 04:37 PM
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I'm thinking he is a double agent and got popped. Think about it, Dennis Rodman went over there, got drunk at a skunk, and NOTHING happened to him inspite of his poor behavior. This kid goes "allegedly trying to prove human rights violations" and gets popped? Not buying it. A kid with no job? A kid that can AFFORD to FLY close enough, and pay whomever to sneak in? NOT FRIGGIN BUYING THIS MILK.

Of all the countries to explore, this nut picked NK? It would have been easier to pose as a Lord of War and find Boko Haram in Nigeria.

I'm calling some bull swanky BS on this one.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: crazyewok

Well, maybe he heard of their awesome Munsu water-park and just couldn't resist?
uritours.com...




Well he can enjoy 6 years in one of there world famous "holiday" (concentration) camps instead. fun activity's include:
Hard Labour
Torture
Beatings
Starvation
Sexual abuse
Medical Experiments
Mock Executions.
Typhus fever

Maybe he wanted to be eaten by dogs.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

well this is great. If more people who are this dumb did this the world would be saved!!

I hope he stays there.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: crazyewok

well this is great. If more people who are this dumb did this the world would be saved!!

I hope he stays there.


If he was thinking about getting his 15 minutes of fame, you know he failed math in school. 15 minutes is a very small fraction of six years. Chances are, IF he survives it, we will have forgotten about him by then. And even upon release will be nothing but a small blip on the MSM radar.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: TDawgRex

WHAT are you TALKING about it's a BEST SELLER,like a survival book author,only HE is an advaced IDEALOGUE,an ALPHA if you will.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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I find that this is sad as all get out. And should raise some questions, the first being how did he get a visa to visit North Korea? Did he not think or understand that it is not like most Asian countries and that ultimately they play by their own rules and laws?

Personally if he did this, then perhaps leaving him there may be a message to all who would seek to go to that country and let him sit for 6 years and then when he is released, escort him back home. Course he may not have a home to go to, after all 6 years of back due rent.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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I think the craziest part is that people are actually believing anything North Korea says. They haven't even said what he was charged with, or presented any evidence whatsoever of any wrongdoing. KCNA is North Korea's state run media apparatus. This is the same country who makes outlandish claims about unicorns; the same country who showed a picture of a tree in the US with no birds in it, and claimed it was because our citizens are starving and have eaten them all. One could write a book about the crazy things that have been said by North Korea, thus don't believe anything they say. ESPECIALLY when it comes to politics.

They are the same country who recently stated that they have freedom of religion, while then proceeding to arrest another US citizen as he was leaving the country for allegedly leaving a bible behind in a room somewhere. You get my point I'm sure. NK is by far the worst country in the world for propaganda, so to think they would tell the truth, instead of trying to make themselves look good and the US citizen look bad, especially when it comes to their image, is just craziness. This holds true for the handful of other US prisoners they have at the moment. There is absolutely no way this guy defected to North Korea. It appears he was living in South Korea and entered the North as a tourist. His involvement with Wikileaks is just a North Korean attempt to make the guy appear important to a certain extent, thus serving the North Korean aims of getting a high-profile politician to enter their country to attempt to secure the release of this prisoner. Much like what happened with Bill Clinton and the two women who were dragged from China into North Korea by North Korean soldiers.

I am quite certain that North Korea will release him, as well as the other US prisoners they currently have, but the question is what will it take, and how long will it take? I suspect he will be released within a year, which is just a guess based on what has happened in NK in the past. Depending on how the US responds, it could be much earlier. North Korea likely wants to get some concessions out of the United States, which is unlikely to happen. They would probably like the US to start sending humanitarian aid once again, but the majority of it probably doesn't reach the civilian population anyway, but rather goes towards those living in Pyongyang, the majority of whose citizens are affiliated with the state in some manner. They're either working for the government or the military in some capacity, or are family members of such individuals. That is how it used to be, and I'm sure that is still how it is. Ordinary people don't get to live in the capital, which is the only city that could even remotely be termed "modern." Probably still the only city with electricity. Wouldn't surprise me.


edit on 9/14/14 by JiggyPotamus because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Therealjohndoe
So lets see. Mr obama stamp feet and draw line..... Yelling at little kim to release him or face to be bomb back to stone age.


Or he could skip to plan D.

Send in Dennis Rodman.



We tried that. They keep sending him back.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: VictorVonDoom

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Therealjohndoe
So lets see. Mr obama stamp feet and draw line..... Yelling at little kim to release him or face to be bomb back to stone age.


Or he could skip to plan D.

Send in Dennis Rodman.



We tried that. They keep sending him back.


Dennis Rodman, Piers Morgan, etc...maybe there is hope for the world after all. They keep being sent home.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:35 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Maybe Korean jails are coed. Either way I knew this meat loaf was trouble the moment he said he would do anything for love.

Edit-after further investigation meat loaf wouldn't do that.




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