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originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
Good point, but most criminals likely have assets in some form or another, ones that can be liquidated/sold to pay for any legal fee's you might incur, and or compensate for any damages to property of you or prior victims.
originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: Metallicus
Nothing less valuable than Red Neck domestic advise. Especially from those who talk a very big game. I'd be willing to bet that if the SHTF, 99% of you very big talkers would be doing so from under your beds, hiding. Simply owning a gun doesn't mean anything. Knowing how to use it is the key. Most of you very big talkers are the type who start screaming and yelling before a fight, to try and scare off the aggressor. When your show doesn't work, you fold. The only place you try-hards will ever pull out your weapons is on internet forums, like this. So rave on digital Rambos, rave on....
originally posted by: Petros312
a reply to: butcherguy
You confidently say, "In all of your scenarios,the person breaking into your home can be shot dead legally in the state in which I reside... Pennsylvania. It is not murder."
That's fine, but to make this statement, logically, you must know the state law. So then you should have no trouble posting the statute and the subsection numbers for reference. I'm sure others would like to read about this law that excuses someone from murder simply because an intruder entered the house. We can wait.
But I'm reminding you that what is "legal" is not my whole argument. There are plenty of things that are legal but still unethical.
Guess which ones above have the only real legal basis for murdering the person who breaks into your home?
The most recent version of Pennsylvania’s Castle Doctrine legislation was signed into law in June 2011. The law extends the right to self-defense up to and including deadly force in a victim’s dwelling (now including any attached porch, deck or patio), occupied vehicle, or any other dwelling or vehicle that the victim legally occupies. A place of work is included in the "castle" provision under certain circumstances. Use of deadly force is justifiable if the "castle" area in the event that an assailant is "unlawfully and forcefully entering" or has entered the "castle" area.
Unless one of the exceptions under paragraph (2.2) applies, a person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter an actor's dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle or removes or attempts to remove another against that other's will from the actor's dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit: (i) an act resulting in death or serious bodily injury; or (ii) kidnapping or sexual intercourse by force or threat.
We can wait.