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ISIS behead British hostage David Haines, threatens another British hostage with beheading.

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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 12:46 AM
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It seems like some people never get tired of being lied to. For the love of the earth STOP WATCHING the MSM.




posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:01 AM
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Why is the USA having such a hard time sending in Cruise (or other) Missles to destroy ISIS leadership? It's already been authorized and It's not like they're in hiding. The top guys make speeches all the time outdoors for all to see.

Something's fishy about this entire "Isis is our enemy" story. We've known of their growth for years.
-cwm



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:17 AM
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This guy was a well known taxi driver in my area, very well liked. I feel for his family. I've been trying to show people how the MSM are pushing these videos forward for an agenda, only few arn't jumping on the hate muslim bandwagon, people in this area have exploded. We recently had a dog shelter burned down and while i was on the way to work listening to the radio, they were using key words like, if you felt as ANGRY and UPSET as us donate etc ... just seems like the exact right moment to release this when emotions are very high and people were uniting a little, then a local guy gets beheaded? Just seems all to convenient to me. Stop listening to the news! We need a unity of mind!



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:47 AM
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This guy was a well known taxi driver in my area, my ex girlfriend messaged me about this as i look into all this, i'm with the US/UK funded propaganda vote. We just had a dod shelter burned down, emotions are high in this area, then a local man get's beheaded ... I don't know but it seems all to convenient for me. People are buying into the media propaganda round here and people are exploding after this. I've noticed on the radio them using emotion to cause a stir, 'If this makes you as ANGRY and UPSET as us please donate'. I try to make my work mates aware but they don't see it. They let the media drive their emotion. More and more people are questioning though and it's down to us to show this emotional driven propaganda for what it is. No more violence! A unity of minds is needed! Stop watching MSM! Do some research! Connect the dots and think for yourself! Evolution of conscious awareness is needed! None violent means is the way! You don't put out a fire with more fire!



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 01:57 AM
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The taxi driver from Manchester hasn't been executed yet. He's threatened as next, if it hasn't happened already.

I'm not sure how this is "convenient" because a dog shelter in Harpurhey burnt down though. Seems a stretch to link those events.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 02:24 AM
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My thoughts and prayers go out to his family


I see some interesting theories in this thread like if the beaheadings took place on the same day or even as an act of revenge for the failed rescue attempt.

I still wonder why the hostages "willingly" state "their" message everytime... Maybe the kidnappers told them they would get released or what do you think? To me it seems unlikely for someone in such a situation to cooperate with such barbarians? I really don't know how I would act in such a situation but wouldn't one give a p**s about what they want to tell you to the camera when you are abou to die either way?



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 03:33 AM
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originally posted by: mr-lizard
a reply to: Ph03n1x

Exactly. Why do they gladly film themselves executing 700 Syrian soldiers and 600 Iraqi's and then fake a hostage murder? There's images and videos of them cutting people's throats, trying teenagers to crucifixes and forcing truck drivers to kneel at the side of the road to be shot in the head.

There's a video of over a dozen men being shot in the back of the head and dumped in a lake/river.

But you think that they'd need to fake these ones?

Why exactly? It's not like they've not got the world's attention already. Why start faking things, when they've been running rampant raping, murdering and looting for the last few months?


You just made the point yourself!

Why would the same group showing all this other horror, suddenly care to try and not show gore?? It doesn't make sense unless the beheadings are fakes by CIA/MI6 etc in order to rally support for another war.

It's so plainly simple, it blows me away all you people can't believe it.

These are the same agencies who created Andy Warhol and Jackson Pollock just to manipulate public perception and mindf*ck the Soviets!!! www.huffingtonpost.com...

All you people falling for this crap is proof anyone will believe their bullsh!t, and steamroll right into military-industrial cashcow fake war!!



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 03:47 AM
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a reply to: 8675309jenny

Or, alternatively, the beheading videos are aimed at Western media and websites whilst the massacre videos are designed to terrify people in the ME and "soften" them up to be compliant when IS roll up.

They have completely different purposes.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 05:25 AM
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Every time a government official refers to these dirtbags they call them ISIL, and whenever the media does, it's ISIS. I realize that they're one in the same but why the difference in names?



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 05:38 AM
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They keep changing it as they and their ambition gets bigger.

It started out (well, came to public attention) as Islamic State of Syria and Iraq, and is now currently Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

I guess the politicans want to look more up to date. They have been ISIL since April though, to be fair. I guess the media use ISIS for clarity. It's the same group in all but name.
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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: 8675309jenny

This is real #.

If you believe all those people dying, hiding, running, converting is all make believe, then you really are way too much of a Conspirasist. You have been reading way too much of other theorists Threads/Posts and videos on YT.

This thing is happening and its happening now.

That whole area they claim is now a State on its own is real and needs to get bombed.

30 Nations are talking to defeat them.... and that is better than just one. More Nations in it together the better.
edit on CDTMon, 15 Sep 2014 07:32:59 -0500u3007x159x1 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: skitzspiricy
Hi. Firstly, you look very cute in those jams.

Now, interesting that what you took from my post was the aspect of distributing guilt. Just call them as I see them. I have no control over the emotional response from others.

So then, if you believe the vids are fake, does that also mean you believe the two Americans and Mr. Baines are still alive? Is the point over all this that the American government made the vids? If not, then who do you think made them? If Isis faked them, then for what purpose?

I haven't seen the video, but I do know that beheadings have long been a particularly vile activity of terrorists, designed to bring us horror, as we inherently find it so utterly repulsive.

Whether the guy in the photo performed the actual act, might be dubious. It's possibly a person they selected because of his accent, appearance, or whatever, to be the spokesperson. It was, after all, filmed for recruitment purposes, so maybe they put their best man forward, as we might do in a commercial. Maybe they think he's charming in a way. Everybody knows Brits have the best accents. The actual identity of the savage who wielded the knife or axe, we don't know. And it's really a moot point.

Our governments don't always release these type things right away. They might hang on to them until there is a political motivation to release them, like with Saddam and Bin Laden, however, I don't believe it was our governments who released them in this case.

Parasaro, you seem to be under the impression that the subject of this thread is whether or not the videos are real. You might want to review the Title and OP. It encompasses a great deal more than that.
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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: Minardi
I am new here and dont now what the policy of uploading pictures is, so i will refrain from that.

Am i the only one that think that the shadows on his beheaded head doesnt align correctly with the shadows seen around the stones surrounding his legs?

When you look at the shadows around the head it looks as through the sun shines from the left, however the shadows showing near his legs, tells me that the sun shines from the right. Im no specialist in shadows or anything, just thought it looked odd. Did anyone else notice? or am i totally wrong in my observation?


So has anyone else had a look on my observation?
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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: Malynn
It seems like some people never get tired of being lied to. For the love of the earth STOP WATCHING the MSM.


Elaborate?

Which part of these reports are lies?

The Kurds being slaughtered and sold off as slaves? The Syrians being beheaded? The Iraqi's being machine gunned down in large groups?

Those mosques being destroyed, are you saying that's false? What about the Yazidi's stuck on the mountain without water? Are they lies?



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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Will isis be a threat beyond things like this? Do you guys n gals think they can gain momentum? If the take Syria?



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Johnathanandheather

I think they will gain more fighters because those who don't join them will be killed. So, I guess it all depends on whether those people will convert coz thats what they will be asked to do and if they can't defend themselves, they will either submit or die. They have 2 options.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: Johnathanandheather

If I'm honest, I think IS is somewhat self limiting on the basis that the vast majority of even hard-line Muslims in Syria/Iraq etc want nothing to do with it. I think they know this and are provoking the West to inspire hardliners worldwide to join them on the basis of anti-Western feeling.

They might take Syria, but it will be by making people fight. The more they overstretch and rely on forced labour, the more likely it is that they'll collapse.

I think this is why the 40 odd countries signing up today think the time is right to do something - IS might be reaching a point where they can't consolidate quick enough and are vulnerable to a sudden, crushing retaliation from superior forces.
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posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Malynn
It seems like some people never get tired of being lied to. For the love of the earth STOP WATCHING the MSM.
Thanks for that, I was actually quite distressed



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: KingIcarus



If I'm honest, I think IS is somewhat self limiting on the basis that the vast majority of even hard-line Muslims in Syria/Iraq etc want nothing to do with it.


The vast majority of extremist Muslims who oppose IS only do so because they believe they are the one true interpretation of Islam and they want to be the one's who lead the Muslim world into a new Caliphate.



posted on Sep, 15 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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Have you seen Foleys brother and sister on YouTube? Laughing about his kidnap? I kid you not.

Watch these videos and it further shows why there are factions that believe that this is all fake. Two of the videos clearly shows Foley's siblings LAUGHING and GRINNING about their brothers "supposedly" kidnap and imminent death during an interview. They do not act like two people who have a brother that is kidnapped by terrorists.





I'm still not buying it. This is all fake. Its false flag operations.
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