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ISIS behead British hostage David Haines, threatens another British hostage with beheading.

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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 08:50 AM
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If we don't soon have war heroes like we did in WW2 we are in deep trouble.Bomb the living hell out of ISIS.Everyone and the game is over even the innocent people they hold hostage.Then repent and ask for forgiveness.




posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: mr-lizard




I didn't know that. From what I've been reading is that the executions were botched due to the executioner being an amateur.


This is from MSM media in the UK.




Foley murder video 'may have been staged' Analysts believe the British jihadi in the video may not have been James Foley's killer, although it is accepted that the journalist was murdered


www.telegraph.co.uk...

This is evidently a flase flag event. Proganda is being spread out across social newtworks. These guys magic out of thin area. Spawned in Sryia with US funding..

purp..



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: mr-lizard




I didn't know that. From what I've been reading is that the executions were botched due to the executioner being an amateur.


This is from MSM media in the UK.




Foley murder video 'may have been staged' Analysts believe the British jihadi in the video may not have been James Foley's killer, although it is accepted that the journalist was murdered


www.telegraph.co.uk...

This is evidently a flase flag event. Proganda is being spread out across social newtworks. These guys magic out of thin area. Spawned in Sryia with US funding..



purp..



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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I am new here and dont now what the policy of uploading pictures is, so i will refrain from that.

Am i the only one that think that the shadows on his beheaded head doesnt align correctly with the shadows seen around the stones surrounding his legs?

When you look at the shadows around the head it looks as through the sun shines from the left, however the shadows showing near his legs, tells me that the sun shines from the right. Im no specialist in shadows or anything, just thought it looked odd. Did anyone else notice? or am i totally wrong in my observation?
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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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originally posted by: CX

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
Poor bugger
btw he wasn't an aid worker he was ex military who spent the last 15 years offering security and protection to aid workers in many tough areas

He wasn't an idiot so the people who captured him had some good training


15 years of making sure teams of people can help civilians in trouble spots and this was his final reward




Hi, just curious as to how you know he was a security operative with mililtary experience?

The press has said nothing on this yet, not that it makes your comment untrue.....just curious.

Cheers,

CX.


The press before his killing told us his past military history,but now they say he was just an aid worker?

There not being truthful he was a professional who in many trouble spots protected the aid worked he was assigned to keep safe

www.ibtimes.co.uk...



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: ladyinwaiting


Ugh. Cant read anymore of these comments. They are hurtful, and it's like reading "there was no holocaust" or "we never landed on the moon'.

Too ridiculous for my brain to entertain.

Good luck with this bunch on your thread, Mr. Lizard. I hope both our countries manage to figure out what is the best thing to do.



Are you serving an extra side of guilt with your trip?


I'm sorry to single out your post Lady, but yours is the most recent in a long chain of posts of late that is ridiculing and using guilt trips against those whom are questioning the status quo.

I have bolded some parts of your post that stand out to me as what i have stated above.

I thought this place was supposed to be a Conspiracy Forum and not a MSM Media forum.

You have to expect that there will be many here that will be questioning the status quo.


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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 12:19 PM
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That's what I'm saying. Of course there will be people out there who have no problem executing a load of people, sadly. I was just replying to something another user posted. Sorry for being unclear, like I said , I am new. But I completely agree with minkmouse, this is really making people angry. I think maybe part of that is because 700 people being buried alive is completely awful...it's so awful it's almost inconceivable to us, perhaps. But by using a graphic video of just one person, perhaps subconsciously, we start picturing ourselves or our loved ones in the captives' position...or maybe it just seems so much more "real". Just speculation...



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: ladyinwaiting


What does any of that have to do with obvious fake videos ?

What we DO know, is that none of these videos show a beheading, and none conclusively even TRY to show evidence of the actual bodies and heads matching up, or that these are even real bodies.

Another thing we know, is the media is showing these videos SHOUTING that they are real, when any dam fool can see that we actually saw NOTHING , in ANY of these vids.

Why are they not showing it?

Better ask those who are spreading it all over the net in this fashion.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: mr-lizard

The thing I really don't understand about these ISIS swine is how can any so called group that pertains to follow the will of Allah behead some poor foreign aid worker who had nothing what so ever to do with the retaliatory strikes. Why behead an innocent man?

Execution by proxy if you ask me dirty cowards cant even hold the correct individuals responsible!

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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: mr-lizard
a reply to: mr-lizard

Also what about all the executions - crucifictions, massacres, beheadings, people being buried alive. Children shot at point blank range, heads on poles.....

Are they fakes? Those videos of massacres on liveleak. Are they fake?

Why fake one and not fake the other?

Occam's razor in this situation suggests all three men have been beheaded. My only doubts about the situation is that I believe all of these men have already been killed on the same day and the videos are being leaked at later dates for maximum impact.



You are serious ? You have been reading that the executioner botched things so that is why they do not show it ??

Hmm, why fake one and not the other, Occam's razor does NOT suggest what you say at all, in fact those of you who think this way do not even comprehend the likelihoods of ANYTHING here on this Planet.

Why do you not ask why they fake these vids, and not show the brutality of the moment, when it surely would have led to far more serious impact on the net??

Here is an answer for you, whomever released these vids, are LAUGHING at the fact that you take this as seriously as they say you should !



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: Feltrick

We old CONSPIRACY nuts agree with Sphinx by the way.
HUGE lies since WWII I guarantee it.Bush clan at the center.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: Hijinx

Those are illegal now.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

The reason they don't show the "Brutality of the Moment" is because of power. An executioner who is able to quickly dispatch the victim is much more powerful than the one who has trouble. Also, they want to show that they have total control over the victim, that the victim is powerless to stop them and that the victim submits willingly.

Now, think of it in a global sense. IS is showing the world that they control the West, that the West is powerless to stop them and that the West will submit willingly. It's staged, but not in a way out conspiracy staged but in a "we want to look powerful before the world."

The more powerful and in control they appear, the more people will flock to join them. Geez, it would be like an Army recruiting video showing friendly fire incidents...no one would sign up. That's what these are in some ways, IS recruiting videos. No brutality, just power, control and submission. It glorifies them.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 01:46 PM
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So that's what its all about.

They could at least use an axe. Dying like that must have taken quite a while wit that knife. The poor guy must have been in excruciating pain. At least with an Axe its off in one go.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Maybe they ordered an execuitioners axe from Amazon and it hasn't arrived yet. Maybe they ordered an axe but got a camp hatchet instead and had to return it.

Maybe the guy doing the killing is a sadistic bastard and likes to see infidels suffer.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: mr-lizard
a reply to: Feltrick

Indeed, plus you wouldn't linger in the same area would you? Not several times. Not with every intelligence agency in the world trying to locate you.

It's a terrible thing to say, but my hunch is that these poor souls were killed on the same day, then separate videos are being released every few weeks as some sort of propaganda war.




You know why I'm inclined to believe this as well? The same script is being used (so I hear, I'm not ever going to watch a beheading video, ever, even if the process is edited). They would not be able to resist making bigger, badder, more outlandish threats and there's more going on that they could mention. A small oddity that points to you being right imo. Add in the same British killer every time, you don't think they would mix things up?
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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: minkmouse

originally posted by: douglas5

originally posted by: stardust22
"Now, realistically I dont think any one person has the stomach to do 4-5 beheadings in a day..."

I wish that were true, however - do you not think that perhaps it's a little naive? Sadly, I think it might be...(no disrespect intended).

((Sorry, I'm new and don't know how to do the quote thingy))


Spend some time in a slaughter house and see how many animals one man can do in a day


Slightly different. How many Jackpike can one man club in a day? How many kittens from an unfixed female cat can one man drown etc. Taking an animals life is far different from a human in the cultural sense we tend to ride on.


You're showing a fundemental misunderstanding of these coward's nature. What in the hell gives you the idea they have any respect for the life of other people? What makes you think they have any compassion, moral compass, and are anything than murderous, nasty, vile, backwards ass scum of the earth born and raised in the armpit of the world?



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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The thing that annoys me about threads like this just how eager people are to be the first to 'see through it' by calling false flag. Unless you're deluded enough to believe groups like IS don't actually exist, there is - in reality - very little reason to fake these videos.

All available evidence suggests that IS are committing extraordinary crimes across swathes of the ME. Given the simple barbarity of their actions, falsley making out a few US/British prisoners are being beheaded does very little to further Western public support for action - the fact IS are behaving in a manner scarcely seen since the Nazis is doing that all on it's own. As a Brit, I'm very sorry indeed that a British citizen has been executed, but that concern is trumped significantly by the thousands of innocent people already left in IS' wake.

"But the PTB want a war."

Yes. Yes they do. They want a war to put the genie back in the bottle. IS is the birds of over a decade of Western foreign policy mistakes coming home to roost - the fact that Western Muslims like Jihadi John have taken up arms proves this. They want a war because it might well be the best opportunity to crush this before it spirals out of control and arrives at the West's borders.

As for the video, I'm increasingly thinking all these hostages were executed on the same day and they're just feeding it piecemeal. The US/UK won't pay the ransoms so the value of these hostages became political rather than financial, I'm afraid to say. It would make perfect sense to kill them all and move on from the location given the intense scrutiny these acts understandably generate from the West's security services - cowards like that haven't got the balls to stay around when the SEALS/SAS turn up, because it won't end prettily.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: KingIcarus
The thing that annoys me about threads like this just how eager people are to be the first to 'see through it' by calling false flag. Unless you're deluded enough to believe groups like IS don't actually exist, there is - in reality - very little reason to fake these videos.


As for the video, I'm increasingly thinking all these hostages were executed on the same day and they're just feeding it piecemeal. The US/UK won't pay the ransoms so the value of these hostages became political rather than financial, I'm afraid to say. It would make perfect sense to kill them all and move on from the location given the intense scrutiny these acts understandably generate from the West's security services - cowards like that haven't got the balls to stay around when the SEALS/SAS turn up, because it won't end prettily.



So you're saying they wouldn't fake the videos but they would dub a voice over? Because the dude with British accent and a knife is clearly talking about current events.

So its fake but not really?
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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: KingIcarus
The thing that annoys me about threads like this just how eager people are to be the first to 'see through it' by calling false flag. Unless you're deluded enough to believe groups like IS don't actually exist, there is - in reality - very little reason to fake these videos.

All available evidence suggests that IS are committing extraordinary crimes across swathes of the ME. Given the simple barbarity of their actions, falsley making out a few US/British prisoners are being beheaded does very little to further Western public support for action - the fact IS are behaving in a manner scarcely seen since the Nazis is doing that all on it's own. As a Brit, I'm very sorry indeed that a British citizen has been executed, but that concern is trumped significantly by the thousands of innocent people already left in IS' wake.

"But the PTB want a war."

Yes. Yes they do. They want a war to put the genie back in the bottle. IS is the birds of over a decade of Western foreign policy mistakes coming home to roost - the fact that Western Muslims like Jihadi John have taken up arms proves this. They want a war because it might well be the best opportunity to crush this before it spirals out of control and arrives at the West's borders.

As for the video, I'm increasingly thinking all these hostages were executed on the same day and they're just feeding it piecemeal. The US/UK won't pay the ransoms so the value of these hostages became political rather than financial, I'm afraid to say. It would make perfect sense to kill them all and move on from the location given the intense scrutiny these acts understandably generate from the West's security services - cowards like that haven't got the balls to stay around when the SEALS/SAS turn up, because it won't end prettily.


The Taliban fought the SAS in hand to hand combat in tora bora (however you spell it) and one of the SAS members in charge said they were brave fighters who would attack them with tooth and nail if they had no ammo :-/ the Taliban were just as barbaric to their enemies and had many beheading videos.

You think that when special forces turn up they all grab human shields or run?

Hell,even in that prison complex in Afganistan when they were chained by ankles and wrists they managed to other throw the guards and rip out the CIA officers throat there with their teeth before our SF took high positions and got the prison back

There not cowards their barbaric and have no emotions when it comes to killing

No coward goes to war,they know they can die on the battle field as do our own brave soldiers

Our troops have a code of conduct and morality and that's what seperates us from these savage killers



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