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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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Bah! Teachers teach nothing usable in life. Oh oh oh!! Lets teach them when "Columbus discovered America"!! Then lets teach them a sub-par math system. Next, lets teach them more propagandized history. By the time kids graduate high school, what have they learned that will actually prepare them for life? Not much, IMO. The academia system is a laughable joke. It really is. There are some good teachers out there, but they have to follow and do what they are told. This is to produce a who new generation of sheep that will follow. Then, if one of them go to college, they will be in debt. It's all planned out and a money-making scheme. I hope more and more kids are educating themselves with every disposable tool out there. Know how the system works. Know who created it. Know why they created it.




posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: Lyxdeslic

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Night Star

As a person that spent his fair time in the Principle's office....right. You don't get to high school without knowing the rules.
He knew damn well. And, as we are engaging in speculation, I'd wager it's not his first time sent from class.




He didn't do anything wrong. He was a frustrated teen and reacted to a situation. His school backed him up and the teacher got suspended.


With pay.

Obviously the school didn't back him up to much because she was still making money.


They also said it was standard policy to do so while investigating.


This is over a year ago. That investigation should be done. Was she dismissed?


I have been trying to find that out but so far...nothing. I found Jeff's friendship book page and the last time he posted was November of 2013 I believe, so I don't know what happened to him either.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: Fylgje

THAT is what I've been saying. Take control and responsibility in your life.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 07:07 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
Bah! Teachers teach nothing usable in life. Oh oh oh!! Lets teach them when "Columbus discovered America"!! Then lets teach them a sub-par math system. Next, lets teach them more propagandized history. By the time kids graduate high school, what have they learned that will actually prepare them for life? Not much, IMO. The academia system is a laughable joke. It really is. There are some good teachers out there, but they have to follow and do what they are told. This is to produce a who new generation of sheep that will follow. Then, if one of them go to college, they will be in debt. It's all planned out and a money-making scheme. I hope more and more kids are educating themselves with every disposable tool out there. Know how the system works. Know who created it. Know why they created it.


We'll said.

iPads ^
edit on 9/13/2014 by onequestion because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: Night Star

So as far as we know the discipline was that she was suspended while they had an investigation and...... In a high profile case I would think that if she was fired it would have been noted.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:12 PM
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He DID use his brain and he DID do something. When he spoke about her talking about how it's her 'paycheck' he should have told her to 'earn it' !
Teachers who sit on their backsides for the entire lesson quoting from books and telling the pupils just to read the rest are incredibly lazy. That kid was absolutely right if that was her teaching method. She should 'engage' the class and work with them.
Good for him



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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Bah! Teachers teach nothing usable in life. Oh oh oh!! Lets teach them when "Columbus discovered America"!! Then lets teach them a sub-par math system. Next, lets teach them more propagandized history. By the time kids graduate high school, what have they learned that will actually prepare them for life? Not much, IMO. The academia system is a laughable joke. It really is. There are some good teachers out there, but they have to follow and do what they are told. This is to produce a who new generation of sheep that will follow. Then, if one of them go to college, they will be in debt. It's all planned out and a money-making scheme. I hope more and more kids are educating themselves with every disposable tool out there. Know how the system works. Know who created it. Know why they created it


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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: onequestion


I keep saying it, in today's world the old ways of thinking are obsolete they aren't working anymore.

Time for change.


Wow - that is entirely brand new information...

:-)

Other than hatin' on your elders - what's your bright idea Ponyboy?



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Night Star

So as far as we know the discipline was that she was suspended while they had an investigation and...... In a high profile case I would think that if she was fired it would have been noted.



I would think so too. Strange. Anyone else find any more information on the teacher or kid?



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:28 PM
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a reply to: Lyxdeslic

I suppose we should just sit down and shut up about all the ills of this country, then, yes? I mean, the police brutality- hey if they want to trespass on my property without a warrent, I should just sit down and let them shoot my dogs and tazer my elderly housemate, too- right? I mean...just sit down and shut up. That's what we're supposed to learn in school.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 11:19 PM
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Didn't watch the video, can't play something noisy atm. I've had a lot of teachers in my life... we'll start with high school: I've had religion teachers that would beat me for the wrong answer, science teachers who felt sheer memorization was the only way to do things, and math teachers that would apply everything we learned to every day life. In college I had math teachers that were clearly rushed by policy and simply hoped a few people would pass, art teachers that were amazing and art teachers that were poor. Programming teachers that were easy, and some that would really push me.

In the end though I've learned from all of them. I can't think of a single class from high school to 10 years of college now where I didn't learn something new and very useful in each class.

Maybe the teaching style of that teacher isn't the best, but if the student actually looks at the material he might learn something.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 11:25 PM
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I had the benefit of going to a good all male school for my primary education. In my opinion there are always may perspectives to this topic and there are also many correct points on both sides. If I tried to mouth off in class, I did not go to the principal, I got punched. If I complained about it at home (never did) I would get punched again.

There are good teachers that instill a desire in the student to learn:

Good Teacher

There are teachers who do not inspire:

Bad Teacher

...nuff said maybe…?



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 11:54 PM
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Do you know cursive writing is only taught for a few weeks in 3rd grade and kids are not required to write in cursive anymore? I have 4 kids age 14-20 and none are required write cursive in school, which was a requirement when I went to school years ago.

I make them write cursive when doing shopping lists, etc., just to teach them, but it takes them forever.

People are dumbfounded when my kids don't sign their name in cursive (like to get drivers license, etc).



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: tinker9917

What's the point of cursive?



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: Lyxdeslic

You clearly went through the american school system. You know how to do basic level math to produce awful statistics. He did not waste over half the class. He wasted as much time as he was talking. But again, some fantastic fake math.

The teacher is clearly apathetic. You can great it in her voice. She's just putting in the tone and collecting her paycheck.

I also like how common the whole "if you want things to change follow the rules and go through proper channels" thing is. Out county is literally founded on the fact that sometimes change requires rebelling against the system because rarely are those in power magnanimous. Should Washington have petitioned Mad King George more and stayed peaceful? Should Lincoln have set up a joint north-south committee to politely discuss slavery?

The idea that all change should come through proper legal and peaceful methods is ridiculous. People have confused disagreement with confrontation in America. He said nothing mean or irrelevant in response to his teacher treating him disrespect.

I'm constantly amazed at how the older generations can simultaneously blame children for their problems citing lack of personal responsibility but also utterly discount their opinions whenever they speak up. The real problem is that these knowledge saturated children can't handle the hypocrisy that America has raised to high art. I lost track at like ten, of the number of adults who told me that school is the most important while telling and showing me that it was all bull# and a game. My guidance counselor in high school (who in hindsight really was just trying to help cause god damn was she right) told me that all of this was a ridiculous and unfair game and that you won't get anywhere sitting on the sidelines. Her tone validated all my suspicions about our society at the time.

Kids like this are failing because they aren't greedy or ignorant enough to buy into the system and don't have the natural talent to coast.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 02:40 AM
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originally posted by: trollzTeachers, do your *ing jobs. Take some pride in your work and inspire people to learn.


Uh, thanks for that well worded suggestion. Thank goodness for these pearls of advice.
Where would I be without you? Probably playing solitaire on my computer while my pupils read packages I have handed out. Probably throwing kids out my class for asking questions.

NOT

I do my *ing job.
I do my *ing job well.
I take pride in my work and I work *ing hard to inspire.

I repeat what I said in a previous post, please do not lump us all in the same category of lazy and incompetent.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: IrishCream
a reply to: Mura44

I apologize for generalizing my comment and I applaud you on your passion for the vocation (not "job", negative connotation these days).

Sadly, I do not see your same passion reflected in teachers today as a whole, you are now an exception as opposed to the rule when it should be the other way around.


First, thank you for the apology. There are several people in this thread who have mentioned inspiring teachers they have had, so enough people out there know that they exist.

Second, I teach in the UK, so I am not familiar with the US education system so I can't comment on the problems with the system there, only the problems here. And yes, there are problems with the system.

And finally there are a thousand reasons that some schools get a reputation for being good and others for being bad and another thousand reasons some pupils fail in the system and others thrive. Blame is not easy to assign, finger pointing is a useless exercise. If something is broken then let's admit it and fix it, but it is not always the teacher's fault entirely.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 02:59 AM
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I have read through the majority of this thread, but have not seen a response from an actual teacher, so I thought I would give my thoughts. I have taught at high school level (11-18 year olds) for the past 15 years, albeit in the UK. Watching this video I have to say I totally support the student.

Back when I was at school I was taught in a very similar way to what this student was in many lessons. History, for example, was taught by giving us a text book, told to copy out a chapter, learn the facts and then tested on them next lesson. What has the 'teacher' actually done in this situation? If this is what teaching is then it could be done with anyone with no specialist subject specific knowledge.

Teaching in this country has changed vastly in the past 20 years. There are now 'teaching standards' that have to be maintained in order to receive pay progression. This includes a duty to ensure that every students demonstrates progress, both in the short term every single lesson, and over time. The burden of proof of this is on the teacher. The government and school employers vigorously monitor this through lesson observation and inspections.

This has led to a fundamental change in the teaching in the classroom. Teachers (even the poor ones-and there are still poor one) have to actually Teach. Preparation for classes take hours. Marking is no longer just a tick and a grade, but feedback and target setting driven. Different forms of learner shave to be taken into consideration extremely carefully - are lessons being planned to have an impact on audio, kinetic, and visual learners? Is the work differentiated to challenge the brighter students, but things in place to support the weaker students or those with learning disabilities?

Without these basics in place it is not possible to achieve a 'good' rating as a teacher in the yearly review (the minimum requirement for achieving progression), and this is only the start of what is expected and required.

The biggest problem is that has become a barrier for the many superb teachers who are too busy trying to tick all the boxes for what is expected to be a 'good' or 'outstanding ' teacher to remember that the biggest thing that can drive student motivation is their own passion for the subject.

Yes a teachers job is to teach- but the best of us realise that to inspire is the best teaching tool in the world. If you can make a student fall in love with the subject matter they will do most of the work for you. In the uk education system that often means 'breaking the rules' to what is expected of a 'good lesson' as defined by government. It seems that our system pushes teachers to far in the opposite direction of the U.S system, where it seems from reading this thread, teachers can get away with being lazy and uninspiring.

Now I'm not sure where I am going with this meandering response any more!

I wish I had the kid from the video in my classroom..... He is eloquent, thoughtful and passionate - that is a combination that the right teacher could do something special with.



posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: WeAreSound

Lol, you must have missed my posts. I am an actual teacher and like you, I teach high school in the UK (present tense).

I really enjoyed your post because I can relate to everything you said, especially about the box ticking and the government definition of a good lesson.

The system is so complicated. It shouldn't be, but sadly it is. Politicians get involved and make the simple things so extremely and unnecessarily complex. Thank you for another post from a teacher who does understand, I do not stand alone.




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posted on Sep, 14 2014 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: Mura44

It is good to see the UK teaching establishment is well represented here! There must be a happy medium somewhere between no regulation(allowing teachers to do nothing) and too much regulation (stifling and pressurising teachers to the point where the job becomes untenable.) Maybe one day the government will put a panel of ex-teachers in charge of education instead of a privately educated toff who has not stepped foot in a classroom since they were at school themselves (and I am blaming all political parties here, not just the conservatives).

Anyway... Very pleased to meet you Mura



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