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Christians put a Hex on me?

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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: bitsforbytes

Faith is the fear of facing ones mortality. I am not afraid of my own mortality, I will die one day and I will be gone forever. I accept that.

I believe in seeking the truth. I believe in what can be touched, seen, measured though mathematics and evaluated though the scientific method. This is where mans only hope lies. Abandoning our ancient beliefs and turning all our energy on advancing the scientific method is the only chance man has of taking control of our own fate.


I see, so you do not believe in love. It cannot be measured or quantified. I hope for their sake you are not married or in any relationships.

Also, the whole title of your thread implies you believe in some form of something that cannot be quantified. How can you think that Christians put a Hex on you? A "hex" by definition is an evil spell or curse. Science does not believe in or at least cannot prove concepts like good or evil. If you really put your full trust and faith in science and only science, then you couldn't believe that you'd had a "hex" laid on you. And of course, if you actually knew anything about Christianity in general, you'd know that spells and curses are against the idea of Christianity.

But then, I don't think we're getting the full story here.

If you parents truly thought the house was haunted, why was someone attempting an exorcism on you? They would be doing the exorcism or blessing on the house in order to drive out the demons there first. So what was up with you that they gravitated toward you? And why did you parents buy in to whatever was told to them?
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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
But! Back to my original point, if you believe so strongly about all this, how can you possibly be so confident you are on the right side...

Don't get so caught up in the hows and whys...

The important thing to understand is that you can not only be confidant about these things, you can KNOW what is real and what isn't.

You don't need any more head knowledge, experience trumps that every time.

Once you have had a couple of personal experiences with God, there are no more questions about IF.

All these questions vanish once you have truly experienced the power of God.

No one else can convince you but God.

Concerning the right side VS evil...

Ian McCormack's NDE encounter answers that question better than I ever could...


Ian was night diving off the island of Mauritius when he was stung multiple times by Box Jellyfish, which are among the most venomous creatures in the world. His testimony relates how he clung to life while getting to hospital, was declared clinically dead soon afterwards, and how during this time he had an encounter with Jesus, which radically changed the direction of his life. Link

And He said, "Ian, do you wish to return?" "If you wish to return you must see in a new light." Words appeared in front of my eyes, God is light. And ‘in him there is no darkness at all’. I thought ‘God is light, could that possibly be God? And in Him there is no darkness at all, I’ve just come from darkness, whoever this being is He is completely separate from darkness. I see no shadow, I see no evil. Only pure white radiance. And he knows my name. Could it possibly be God that I am standing in the presence of talking to? I thought if it is He must be able to see my spirit absolutely naked. He must see everything.

I began to pull back, and as I began to pull back towards the darkness of the tunnel, I watched a wave of radiance come off of Him, I expected it to touch me and literally catapult me back into the pit. But as this wave of light emanated forth off Him, it moved through me. All I felt was love. The love was causing me to literally blubber, I was just pouring myself out and I could feel an acceptance coming. God you can’t love me, I’ve cursed you. More love.

I was shaken. He knows my name, he knows my thought before I speak, then he must see all my sins. And I am not a good man. I’ve done a lot of things wrong. So I pulled back, as I did, waves of light came off of his presence, pure love. And I cried like a child as waves of love and acceptance came into me. I told him God you cannot love me, and I started telling him my sins. And each sin I told him – more love. And I said God but I have cursed you, slept around, drugs… and more and more of his love – he showed me that all of my sins had been forgiven when I had prayed in the ambulance.

He says of course that the blood of Jesus washes away all sins – and he had forgiven me when I prayed from my heart. And I stood before him with no sin, no darkness. I opened up my eyes and I was full of liquid light – love – encased 2-3 feet around me in pure light, in pure love. The radiance around the Lord eclipsed – like a glowworm or a firefly. I saw this cloud – I said God, if you love me can I step in and see you face to face?

I thought I am so close, and if he loves me so much – so I walked into this cloud. As I did, my hand disappeared and then I put my face in – and I could not see my own spiritual body it had been eclipsed by the radiance. It was like veils of miniature stars. As I moved through these veils I could feel the light that I had stepped into was healing my broken heart, my heart of heart.

And as I got deeper in I watched the waves of light open, the cloud begin to part, and Jesus with his arms outstretched, barefeet, dazzling white robes. It was like he had taken this cloud and clothed himself in garments of this cloud of light. And as I looked toward the face of the Lord… the radiance… the source of all of this light was coming out of his face. You knew if he spoke a constellation, galaxies would come into existence. I could see he had the form of man, but the face of God. His hair was radiant white.

I had never read a bible so I didn’t know that John had seen that in Revelation – his face shining like the sun and his hair white like snow. But I am seeing what I know to be the Lord, God almighty, radiant light pouring forth from his hands, and as I walk towards him white light pours out of the face of Jesus.

I feel purity, I feel childlike innocence restored back to me. I come about half way towards him, more light – holiness flows into me. And as I get right up to him, I am trying to see his unveiled face, but I don’t know that no man looks upon the face of God and lives, but I am so happy… that I am – so happy but still – and I watched Jesus and I thought why won’t he permit me to see his face? As the Lord moves, with his hand he steps aside and he shows me a continuation of the circular tunnel.

Right behind him I can see a whole new world opening up behind him as if he is a door of light. As he is opening this doorway into eternity I can see fields. Grass with the same radiance and glory that is upon him right across the pasture. The flowers, crystal clear river, trees along both sides, mountains, blue skies, rolling hills. I come from New Zealand, like Lord of the Rings country, and I am looking at paradise. I am thinking if you stepped on it – it would spring back. The radiance was across the entire creation – I thought – I am home. Link




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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa




These studies you refer to have been carried out by believers.


No were talk'n about scholars. You're wrong and you
choose to believe lies because it suits your lifestyle
to do so.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: bitsforbytes

Faith is the fear of facing ones mortality. I am not afraid of my own mortality, I will die one day and I will be gone forever. I accept that.

I believe in seeking the truth. I believe in what can be touched, seen, measured though mathematics and evaluated though the scientific method. This is where mans only hope lies. Abandoning our ancient beliefs and turning all our energy on advancing the scientific method is the only chance man has of taking control of our own fate.


I see, so you do not believe in love. It cannot be measured or quantified. I hope for their sake you are not married or in any relationships.


All pack animals show clear signs of companionship, empathy or love, whatever you want to call it. There's nothing supernatural about it, its an evolved survival instinct.

Edit: it also most certainly can be measured and quantified. We know the exact chemical interactions that occur to create the emotion of love.



Also, the whole title of your thread implies you believe in some form of something that cannot be quantified. How can you think that Christians put a Hex on you? A "hex" by definition is an evil spell or curse. Science does not believe in or at least cannot prove concepts like good or evil. If you really put your full trust and faith in science and only science, then you couldn't believe that you'd had a "hex" laid on you. And of course, if you actually knew anything about Christianity in general, you'd know that spells and curses are against the idea of Christianity.


Just like an airplane, straight over your head, lol.



If you parents truly thought the house was haunted, why was someone attempting an exorcism on you? They would be doing the exorcism or blessing on the house in order to drive out the demons there first. So what was up with you that they gravitated toward you? And why did you parents buy in to whatever was told to them?


They probably did, how would I know? I was 4 years old or something. As if people in that kind of mentality could be trusted to behave in a logical or rational manner. They should have been put on anti-psychotics like all Christians should be.



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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Subaeruginosa




These studies you refer to have been carried out by believers.


No were talk'n about scholars. You're wrong and you
choose to believe lies because it suits your lifestyle
to do so.



Christian scholars. Try doing a little research, your claims are not based on reality.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Good luck



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

No, animals do not show compassion, empathy or love. That is what happens when we anthropomorphize them. Since we cannot and do not conclusively know what animals are thinking, we cannot and do not know what they are doing. Evidence is not proof.

Pack animals may only be showing the instinctive need to further their own genes, and they do this by making sure they giver others related to them the best chance of survival they can. That's not love. It's instinct. What happens when a conspecific from outside the pack wonders in and needs that same compassion? Oh, sorry! SOL, buddy. So much for the compassion, empathy and love.

And if science really could tell what love is, why are people still getting divorced? If science could tell us what love is and test whether or not people are in love, everyone should be getting tested for love before getting married; it would be cheaper than risking divorce methinks. So, you can tell that there are chemical changes in the brain, but can you differentiate love from lust from infatuation? If not, then science cannot prove what love is only that our brains chemically react to the stimulus of others.

And no, your point did not go over my head.

It was ridiculous. You are thinking that because you had an unpleasant experience with some people who called themselves Christian that God must be evil and the devil must be good. Would you be thinking the devil evil and God good had the unpleasant experience come at the hands of Satanists? Honestly, the most virulent atheists I run into seem to have deep-seated parental issues they foist off onto God as if it were God's problem their parents did things to them they didn't like.

I'm sorry if you don't like it that God is not an anarchist and has some simple standards in life like do unto others and all that. I think if you look around the world at most of the major religions, they have pretty much the same type of standards. And if you study your history, some of the worst tyrannies in the world have been based around the idea of no God and equality for all ... at the point of a gun as it turns out. How else do you force everyone to be equal?



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Saying that the Bible has been altered and mistranslated by man is purely conjecture on your part. There is overwhelming scientific evidence, through the science of textual criticism, that shows beyond any doubt that the Bible today says exactly what the earliest manuscripts said. It has not been altered or mistranslated. Your claims hold no water, so the question isn't is the Bible accurate, because that has been proven, regardless of your opinion on it. The real question is... do you choose to believe it? I do and many others do, and clearly you and many others don't.


Well, you forget that there are big chunks of missing manuscripts. The oldest surviving complete manuscripts of any of the 27 books of NT, are written some time around 350 AD, decades AFTER Nicea in 325 AD. Everything from before that are fragmented bits and pieces varying from expected decay from being dead old, to shredded pieces in a puzzle missing a bunch of pieces, and there are the ever refreshing odd pages or couple of pages turning up from time to time at bazars and auctions. The recent Syriac NT was a breath of fresh air:

en.wikipedia.org...

This New Testament, originally excluding certain disputed books (2 Peter, 2 John, 3 John, Jude, Revelation), had become a standard by the early 5th century. The five excluded books were added in the Harklean Version (616 AD) of Thomas of Harqel.


616, letters of Peter, John and Judas? Revelation? Ring a, eh, Bel?
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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
Pack animals may only be showing the instinctive need to further their own genes, and they do this by making sure they giver others related to them the best chance of survival they can. That's not love. It's instinct. What happens when a conspecific from outside the pack wonders in and needs that same compassion? Oh, sorry! SOL, buddy. So much for the compassion, empathy and love.


OMG, your ignorance is astounding. Though ironically you have summed up perfectly what love is. A survival instinct to give the species the best chance of survival, there's nothing magical about it. It's simply chemicals like serotonin and oxytocin flooding the brain.

Also, are you seriously trying to claim that humans accept a "non-specific" who wonders into there pack? Just laughable! Why are there then homeless people everywhere? Have you ever heard of the words, racism, bigoted or discrimination?



And if science really could tell what love is, why are people still getting divorced? If science could tell us what love is and test whether or not people are in love, everyone should be getting tested for love before getting married; it would be cheaper than risking divorce methinks. So, you can tell that there are chemical changes in the brain, but can you differentiate love from lust from infatuation? If not, then science cannot prove what love is only that our brains chemically react to the stimulus of others.


Dude, this can all be found by doing a simple google search. You just don't seem to have any idea whatsoever how brain chemistry works, are you seriously asking me to treat you like a child and explain the simple facts of life to you?



It was ridiculous. You are thinking that because you had an unpleasant experience with some people who called themselves Christian that God must be evil and the devil must be good. Would you be thinking the devil evil and God good had the unpleasant experience come at the hands of Satanists? Honestly, the most virulent atheists I run into seem to have deep-seated parental issues they foist off onto God as if it were God's problem their parents did things to them they didn't like.


Now you are just making ridiculous assumptions about a complete stranger. I was a passionate christian right into my early twenties. But eventually somethings going to give, when you are a rational human being capable of seeking the truth on your own, rather than just accepting what you have been brainwashed to believe.



And if you study your history, some of the worst tyrannies in the world have been based around the idea of no God and equality for all ... at the point of a gun as it turns out. How else do you force everyone to be equal?


Try the exact opposite. Do you just say what pops into your head, do you actually research any of the outrageous claims you make and at least make an attempt to comprehend it?

All wars have been based on spiritual beliefs or irrational ideologies.

Before anyone starts ranting on about hitler, he was raised catholic and was deeply religious, he talked constantly about being chosen for a higher purpose by a higher power. He was just against traditional Christianity and wanted to create his own Nazism religion.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

There is overwhelming scientific evidence, through the science of textual criticism, that shows beyond any doubt that the Bible today says exactly what the earliest manuscripts said. It has not been altered or mistranslated.


...Please tell me this is a joke.
First of all, you're aware that there are many different versions of the bible, right? Each one is written differently. Modern bibles don't even say the exact same things.
And I really shouldn't have to point this out, but based on your comment, I think I may have to; you realize that all the bibles that exist today in various languages had to be translated into those languages? The original books of the bible were not written in English, Spanish, Japanese, etc etc. Sometimes there may not be a translation for a word between languages, such as if there was no word for "church" in Japanese, but you had to translate "church" from English to Japanese anyway. You're then left to essentially re-word it how you think it makes sense the best.

By the way, here's a little treat for you. "Lucifer" wasn't even in the original scriptures.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 04:33 PM
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Because THAT is how I feel in my GUT about it.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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This book was inspired by the Holy Spirt. Man wrote it but was directed and inspired by God. We are instructed not to add or delete any within it with direct consequences if we do - check last sentence of Revelation. Also Christians have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us to speak to us and guide us and we are always to pray if we aren’t sure and to study as in read the word. History, the Dead Sea Scrolls attest to it being true and bang on. Sure a word might not be agreed upon but then take the whole sentence, chapter, etc in context. Until one is versed in Hebrew and Greek and Aramic then you can only go by reading the Bible. One should not take a church’s or other person’s interpretation of what the Bible says. This is where cults and confusion begin. Just keep it simple and study and ask the Holy Sirit to guide you. The Bible is about our supernatural Father and what He is all about and how He redeemed us to Him. So faith is required. Faith is believing in something when you can’t see it. For some individuals they do have visions, hear the voice of God literally and for others it boils down to faith.

I don’t understand how God would represent anything other than good (unless one is dwelling on the Old Testament) and do not understand how Satan could ever be considered good. God created us. He also created Satan. So therefore God is above Satan. Satan wanted to be like God and was kicked out of Heaven for rebelling and conspiring with the other angels. I think the easiest way to explain it is I am a parent and have a child. I love this child more than anything on this earth and I will do whatever I need to in order to ensure she is safe. But she has a mind of her own and thinks she knows everything. She is a new mind in a growing and maturing body in a world full of knowledge and experiences and good and evil. I wouldn’t hand over the car keys to her at the age of 3 and tell her to go and have a good day. She has to learn in order to be safe and to grow into herself. So perhaps this example explains why God would limit our understanding. Besides He is God - He is the most powerful and omnipotent being in existence and so why wouldn’t follow His guidelines? A father or mother doesn’t make ridiculous rules just because they can - there is always a reason behind it.

Satan is pure evil and all he wants to do is take you down, destroy your life and laugh in God’s face while he does it. Satan’s days are numbered and he’s not just sitting idly by watching the world unravel. He IS the reason it is unraveling. It is mankind’s fault as well for not living by God’s love. Forget the rules and why we have to behave: the reason is because God can see the whole start/middle/end and He knows that we must abide by what we call rules in order to stay safe, etc. But it’s really love and boundaries for our well being that we call rules. But more than that if we acted with true, unlimitless and unconditional love then we wouldn’t be choosing wrongful decisions. We should love, love, love. But that’s not our world because we are prone to jealousy, lust, want, want, want and we make bad decisions. A mistake is a mistake but if one stops and thinks about it the sins that we do always occur from selfishness. Do we really just stop and think it over? A lot do and then they let the pleasure aspect take over, do I really want to upsell a customer something they don’t need so I can make commission? That’s sinful. Because I want more money. Do I really need that third piece of cake? No, but I sure can taste it before I eat it and that’s gluttony. Regardless Jesus died for our sins and so we have been forgiven but we Christians don’t want to sin as it trashes the ultimate suffering and sacrifice He did for each of us, individually and as a whole. But yes, you are right, there are many Christians who are hypocritical. Churches aren’t teaching what they are supposed to. Even Christians want the easy way out. That’s why we have to take personal responsibility and research why something doesn’t feel right in our gut or something doesn’t line up with what we believe, etc. A Christian is just another human being who has accepted Jesus as their saviour but they still struggle with sin. The difference is, as a Christian believes, we will be with Christ and live in love and beauty and utmost wonder for all eternity.

As for being part of a country and paying taxes, etc. God tells us to pay what taxes are due. We can be in this world but not of this world. We do have a responsibility to do our best while we are on this planet earth and love one another. Just because I believe there is a perfect life waiting for me once this one is done it doesn’t mean I’m not going to buy groceries for my family and have a job. I still have a part to play and if I do it with love and help and do my best then I can live my life with Jesus as my guide. I’m not going to take part in something that I don’t agree with Biblically but I will as long as it doesn’t go against what Jesus is. And so I vote and make my choice based on the only options I have to me.

I’m sorry you were subjected to what your parents (out of love and concern) did to you. This must have been terrifying. I will tell you that there are many Christians out there that are learning and maturing in their belief. It sounds like the pastor was doing was trying to exorcise something from you. He may have been misguided and thought he was doing something good. It could be that he was speaking in tongues and speaking to the Holy Spirit and that was the scary part. He may have been praying over you. Hard to say since so many Christians are so many different levels and belief levels. I am really sorry you were put through this. Ghosts, the paranormal are of Satan. There is a supernatural battle going on around us at all times.

I have had too much spiritual evidence in my life to discount that God exists. I do believe there is an afterlife and that there is an eternal existence before us. And I don’t believe I’m condemning myself or my children to eternal damnation not based on how simple the message of the Bible is. Accept Jesus as your saviour and that’s it. So what do I have to lose? I’m living my life with love and forgiveness, asking for forgiveness and asking the Holy Spirit to guide me at all times. My life has been amazing with Him in it and I see how broken lives are around me without Him in it. I can’t imagine not having His love in my life and so I’m not losing out in anything or in my future - the way I see it my life is beautiful and I have the most beautiful faith in my future. I think we try too hard instead of just handing the reigns over to God and trying to learn at the same time. The Bible is amazing in the layers that are there before our eyes but until we have read other parts do they unravel, or until we’ve learned the reason why things happened in terms of Jewish beliefs and the lineage of Jesus - it’s funny, I am always realizing something new that doesn’t change the meaning of the Bible but it clarifies the understanding deeper and deeper all the time.

Hope this helps

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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: graceunderpressure

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: graceunderpressure

The Sun shines on me everyday. It has a physical presence and its existence is undeniable. God is not.


So, you're saying that you only believe in things that you personally and physically experience? That's really kinda' sad. If a man lived in a cave for his entire life and never experienced the sun, you're saying the sun is not real because he never experienced it? Or, assuming you've never been to Pluto, nor seen it with your naked eye, is Pluto also therefore "unreal?"

God's presence in my life is undeniable for me. What you have in you own life is whatever you choose.


But a chi/light flow from the higher levels goes a long way for the divine to reveal itself to people. It is all about how much you wanna know. And the things I know from experience do not seem to fit the teachings of Paul at all but fit Jesus, Buddha and Nanak. But then I have no need for religion. Gnosis is the key always was, always will be.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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In Genesis it is the tree of "knowledge of good and evil" that was the tree Adam and Eve ate from not a tree of knowledge.

On a spiritual level it can be seen as an allegory on the self falling into duality views. Thinking that something is the objective truth (real truth) because the ego/self wants it to be the truth.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 05:18 PM
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Indeed, and there's more, since you mentioned the word church. The word used by Jesus, well we can but speculate, since no manuscript even vaguely written in any language Jesus might have spoken have survived-- probably was Heb. קהל or "Kahal" (as in Eng. 'call') translated into Gr. ἐκκλησία or "ecclesia" in the LXX and the Greek NT manuscripts, meaning gathering or congregation in the sense "calling out". And perhaps even "to collect".

Now, the etymology of the word Eng. 'Church' is an intriguing one. The word κυριακός or "kyriakos" supposedly meaning 'of the Lord' is the origin from the horse's mouth, even though that would imply a genitive form of a word that didn't use to mean what it now means. It is found in use twice in NT, but not as a noun, but an adjective, and in arbitrary context as to a semantic definition like what we see today. Two places do we find this adjective, κυριακῇ (dative feminine singular) as in "the Lord's day" in Revelation 1:10, and κυριακὸν (accusative neuter singular) as in "the Lord's supper" (1Cor.11:20). Originally it means "appointed by the Lord", as in "the day appointed by the Lord" or "the supper appointed by the Lord" in the two examples above. Kyriakos didn't show up as a word for Church similar to how we know it today, until several centuries after Jesus' time. First evidence during the fourth century.
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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

No, animals do not show compassion, empathy or love. That is what happens when we anthropomorphize them. Since we cannot and do not conclusively know what animals are thinking, we cannot and do not know what they are doing. Evidence is not proof.



I have met both dogs and cats are so insanely loving wanting me to pet them and try to find a connection to me. There is no doubt in my mind that they are beautiful souls inside and that humans and animals can have a connection beyond what you are saying above.




posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:07 PM
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Phoenician is a key that opens up the truth of Hebrew. Truth can only be found in the letters that write the Word. The true Word is the book of life, or DNA. I'll show you why the Bible is true without using a verse. Okay, four verses, but that's still pretty good.

All languages in the East write from right to left. All West from left to right. They point to the truth. Where is the center of this point? Take your pick. Either Egypt or Jerusalem.

EAST is TRUE
Where does the word true come from? AMN is Hebrew for Amen (Aleph Mem Nun). Aleph means Strong. Mem is Water and Nun is seed.



WEST is LAMB
In Greek and Latin, AMN is Lamb. There are eight words that can be made with this root.

AMN - Lamb
AMNi - River of life
AMNio - Bowl that catches the blood of a sacrificial lamb in Roman culture
AMNion - Sac that covers the womb of the baby in the mother
AMNiotic - Fluid of the womb
AMNesia - Condition of the lamb (can't remember)
AMNesty - When God forgets our sins
dAMNation - When God remembers. Our lamb is removed

Where is the True Lamb located on Earth? Where do the words and letters point us? Shepherds and nomads could not have encoded two languages in parallel. There's more.

In Hebrew, Father is Aleph Bet. We get Alphabet from the word Abba. What are the letters of the Father for? The Father inserts them into the Mother.




The Father is the Strong House. Notice that the house is like a womb. Seed enters the water (cup / womb) to make the Son.

In Hebrew, Mother is Aleph Mem, or Strong Water. She is the cup for the seed. What do you get if you use seed to bake in an oven? Bread. You now know more than most Christians. The cup and bread is the womb and seed. The Mother is the Catalyst for the seed (DNA). Information in the form letters (DNA) must have a catalyst to make proteins.




In Hebrew, the word BEN is Son. It is spelled Bet Nun.




The Son continues the seed and is the House of Seed. Like the Father, he repeats the process.

I said no verses, but one verse will show you the Truth.

JOHN 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

In Hebrew, the word TRUTH is Aleph Mem Tav.





Aleph represents the Father. Mem the Mother and Tav the Son.

Jesus said he was the Alpha and Omega. This is the first letter of Hebrew (Aleph) and the last (Tav). What is in the middle of Truth? The womb. This word Truth is EMET.

What happens if you take the Father out of the family? You get MEM TAV, or MET. Death.

In Hebrew, the word Aharit means (future) turning from what is before (past) you to what is behind (end / future). What direction of time is in the front? You might say future, but in fact, it is the past. Why? You face the past. The future is not seen, therefore in the back. This is how the Hebrew mind sees the past and future. It represents your mistakes in life being in the past. To be turned to the future is the word Aharit. The future is a past forgiven (now behind). This happens when we are faced toward the Father.

Abram became Abraham when he had a Hey added to his name. Hey means to behold.



This is Faith. In Hebrew, the word CHET means missing the mark. What is the Mark? The Tav (Son of God). Missing the mark is taking. God's will is to give and receive. Taking makes us a thief. Giving hits the Mark.

Now, you tell me the truth. What higher truth is there than the one that represents the mark we must hit?



This is why I believe. If you can give me one reason that giving and receiving are not the highest truth, then I will say the Bible is not true. Apart from a higher truth than Love, there is no reason to doubt. Faith is a hope in the Truth and I say, "Deny Ignorance."

What I have shown so far is only a mere glimmer from the edge of what I could show you.

We use the word Ear to mean the thing you hear with and the seed. An ear of corn would be the seed usage. In Hebrew, the word ear and seed are the same. A seed opens in Soil.

If you add the HEY that I showed you above to the word Ear, you get Hear. The seed enters the Ear and you Hear, or behold the information in the seed. Where does the seed go?

Add a Tav (mark) to the word and you get HearT. The Heart is the soil of the person and the mark of truth when the seed grows. If the soil is good, the seeds grow.



You might say, but this is English. Hebrew is not English. I say yes, but I am using Phoenician. English is a phonic language. If I used Hebrew, the word is Homer / Cor. A Cor in Latin is the Heart. In Hebrew, it is 10 bushels of grain. Homer is the empty basket (cor). In German (where we get English), the word Heart is Hertz Core. Hertz is a young Stag (Deer). In Hebrew, the word for Heart means young stag, or deer. It's all the same. The stag is an empty basket until filled.

If you take the Greek word Homer, then reverse the letters, you have the Hebrew word Solomon. Homer is an empty basket (like Homer Simpson) and Solomon is filled.

How can I prove to you that the Heart is the Soil? Move the Hey (where you behold) to the end.

Earth.

Again, who encoded language? The Aleph Bet (Father).

TRUTH is TRUE

AMEN

Where else will you find this level of truth? Child birth is where the Savior chose to show his nature.


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posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Saying that the Bible has been altered and mistranslated by man is purely conjecture on your part. There is overwhelming scientific evidence, through the science of textual criticism, that shows beyond any doubt that the Bible today says exactly what the earliest manuscripts said. It has not been altered or mistranslated. Your claims hold no water, so the question isn't is the Bible accurate, because that has been proven, regardless of your opinion on it. The real question is... do you choose to believe it? I do and many others do, and clearly you and many others don't.


The earliest versions of the Hebrew and Greek Bibles are exactly where so we can examine them?



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

There is overwhelming scientific evidence, through the science of textual criticism, that shows beyond any doubt that the Bible today says exactly what the earliest manuscripts said. It has not been altered or mistranslated.


...Please tell me this is a joke.
First of all, you're aware that there are many different versions of the bible, right? Each one is written differently. Modern bibles don't even say the exact same things.
And I really shouldn't have to point this out, but based on your comment, I think I may have to; you realize that all the bibles that exist today in various languages had to be translated into those languages? The original books of the bible were not written in English, Spanish, Japanese, etc etc. Sometimes there may not be a translation for a word between languages, such as if there was no word for "church" in Japanese, but you had to translate "church" from English to Japanese anyway. You're then left to essentially re-word it how you think it makes sense the best.

By the way, here's a little treat for you. "Lucifer" wasn't even in the original scriptures.


Well said.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 09:56 PM
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