Iran is Fighting ISIS in Iraq

Shiite militia groups are being trained and supplied by Iran. and even While the U.S. does air strikes onto ISIS, Iran is running the show on the ground. Iranian troops are on the ground in Iraq running artillery and other machinery, operating alongside Kurdish and Shiite forces. One soldier states that Iran controls parts of Iraq.

Many civilians are not happy with having to choose between ISIS and Iran as allies on the ground.



Source: BBC

Iraq seems to be in shambles, with parts being controlled by Iran and ISIS.

a reply to: darkbake

Perhaps it is a political move? To get onside with the US & lift some of those sanctions?

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a reply to: darkbake

Iran is the better option. They do not chop heads off. They hang.

a reply to: darkbake

The results of destabilization.

hmmmm... the escalation starts...

the radical/fundamentalist Sunni-Jihadists of ISIS are going to meet a counterforce Shia from Iran, not just a airpower attack by USA air-to-ground pounding from various Manned-Jets/Drones/Cruise Missiles

How obvious was the aggression by IS, they fought against Assad (also a Shia sect), the Hezbollah, Iraq are both Shia dominated... the Sunni led Caliphate targeted Shia targets in the Levant for too long to go unanswered by Iran

what if Saudi and Turkey enter the fray on the side of IS to battle the Iranian-Syrian Shia forces?
what happens when an internal revolt by the huge population of 2nd class citizens of the Shia sect in Arabia start their own Anarchy attacks on the Monarchy


in the eschatological future, the Shia & Sunni must come together to create a short-lived end-time Beast-Empire... which appears as a Leopard (thus the stealth and the interpretation on the black spots on a blond field, representing Shia+Sunni) with the feet of a Bear (Mede-Persian) and the mouth of a Lion (Babylon)
RE: Rev 13: 1-2

a reply to: St Udio

Since the Truman years the house of Saud and the American government have worked out certain treaties that binds the US to protect the Saudi monarchy and the production of oil.

So I wonder what will happen if the Saud monarchy comes under attack and what role our government will take to protect it.

a reply to: darkbake

This kind of situation just goes to prove countries, nations even religious ideologies are nothing more than control mechanisms designed to allow TPTB to operate the puppet show we call reality with complete and utter impunity.

There are some in the US that are scared to death that Obama will work with Iran and actually improve relations with them in the long run. They will vehemently oppose anything that might allow US and Iran to stop being enemies.

a reply to: darkbake

Diplomacy! We seem to have an ideal opportunity to improve relations with Iran and move on but on RT this morning, (can't remember his name but he looks like a human/sheep) the American spokesman ruled out the possibility of including Iran in the fight against ISIS which involves among other country's Saudi.

Why do we miss these opportunities that at least warm relations rather than plain rude ignorring Iran. If in truth we want a peaceful ME without the threats of ISIS we need ISIS gone and a lesson taught to those who think they will resurrect it in the future and Saudi to wind back its religious expansion plans into other moderate Muslim country's. Our problems started up when Saudi started importing their Imams into the UK and it has quietly escalated since this has happened. It needs to be redressed.

a reply to: Xeven

yeah Israel wouldn't be happy.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: St Udio

Since the Truman years the house of Saud and the American government have worked out certain treaties that binds the US to protect the Saudi monarchy and the production of oil.

So I wonder what will happen if the Saud monarchy comes under attack and what role our government will take to protect it.

I believe the USA is caught in a snare with IS...I think IS turned against their Saudi/Qatar creators-masters and the USA will throw the house of Saud under-the-bus for their Petro-dollar threats if we don't contain IS for them...


I like that verse in the Book of Daniel ~~'the Kings resolved on evil will sit at the table and exchange lies' ~~

Iran said that if asked they would help Iraq in getting rid of ISIS looks like they were true to their word. Hezbollah also said they would help as well. Israel will not be happy seeing how America and Iran is on the same side in this because it may help improve relations between the two countries.

a reply to: darkbake

You know you have really screwed up when you have enemies lining up together to fight you. It's like IS/ISIS/ISIL is trying to commit suicide by military.

a reply to: andy06shake

Exactly how does it prove it?

Are you trying to say that Iran is controlled by this mystical PTB?

You're right though, if your mystical PTB does exist, and pretty much controls everything like it seems you're suggesting, then they would just operate with complete and utter impunity, yet....they don't...

a reply to: darkbake

I know some time back Iran offered Iraq military assistance. They also offered to send troops to protect some holy sites. There was a report a week or so back talking about Iranian tanks crossing into Iraq.

Help is always nice... The question is will that help go back home when its not needed anymore.

originally posted by: buster2010
Iran said that if asked they would help Iraq in getting rid of ISIS looks like they were true to their word. Hezbollah also said they would help as well. Israel will not be happy seeing how America and Iran is on the same side in this because it may help improve relations between the two countries.

Its already been stated by the US government that they will not be coordinating anything with Iran and actually stated their presence at the meetings was not something they wanted to see.

Apparently in the past we have used Iraq as an intermediary with Iran for some military issues.

a reply to: AlphaHawk

"Exactly how does it prove it?"

The mere fact that we still seem to be fighting amongst ourselves over religious indifferences rather than the simple fact that its the oil and resources that are up for grabs proves it in my book. A spade after all is a spade.

I'm saying that all our society's are indeed controlled by a very select few aka TPTB aka Illuminati.

I'm saying that these very same people also control our media networks and/or government body's which does indeed allow "Them" to operate with rather a large measure of impunity.

They say jump, we say how high, based on the simple fact that they essentially control any and all information presented to the masses most of us don't so much as have our own opinion any more but rather select from the ones they provide. Essentially multiple choice mind control.

originally posted by: darkbake
Shiite militia groups are being trained and supplied by Iran. and even While the U.S. does air strikes onto ISIS, Iran is running the show on the ground. Iranian troops are on the ground in Iraq running artillery and other machinery, operating alongside Kurdish and Shiite forces. One soldier states that Iran controls parts of Iraq.

Many civilians are not happy with having to choose between ISIS and Iran as allies on the ground.

Source: BBC

Iraq seems to be in shambles, with parts being controlled by Iran and ISIS.

I hope you realise that Iran in fact was asked to join in the efforts to destroy ISIS??? They are there because the west asked them for help and they approved. So you should be showing some damn respect considering that the US is the ones to blame for ALL middle eastern issues going on right now.

As late as sept. 5th ayatollah Khamenei has approved that his military commanders coordinate efforts with the US, the Iraqi and kurdish forces.

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: darkbake

The results of destabilization.

And lines drawn on a map. If people there don't agree with the countries borders there and want to split one up more to their liking it really is their business not ours.

Iraq may disappear in favor of at least three…

Kurdistan,Shiadom and Sunniville.

Who cares? Its their sandpile, not Shell or Exxon property.

originally posted by: Xeven
There are some in the US that are scared to death that Obama will work with Iran and actually improve relations with them in the long run. They will vehemently oppose anything that might allow US and Iran to stop being enemies.

Not scared of that. Obama will most likely improve relations and then let his administration do something stupid and ruin them again. No worries.

As far as ISIS goes, something needs to be done on a coalition type scale to slay the dragon that has been created. If Iran wants to share the cost, I'm all for it.