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Egypt DID NOT OFFER A “Palestinian” state in Sinai to the Palestinians

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posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 11:32 PM
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www.israelnationalnews.com...

Why are ATS members pushing hoaxes and propaganda?

Egypt DID NOT OFFER PALESTINE LAND IN THE SINAI OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

This is just more Zionist propaganda and is easily debunked via a google search; Egyptian politicians have debunked the rumour days ago. Come on, guys. Verify everything.


"The most incessant propaganda says Hamas is committed to the destruction of Israel. Khaled Hroub, the Cambridge University scholar considered a world leading authority on Hamas, says this phrase is “never used or adopted by Hamas, even in its most radical statements”. The oft-quoted “anti-Jewish” 1988 Charter was, he says, "the work of one individual and made public without appropriate Hamas consensus." The document is regarded as an embarrassment and never cited. Not only that, it was published when Hamas itself was a Israeli puppet group funded and armed by Israel to destroy the PLO.

Hamas has repeatedly offered a 10-year truce with Israel and has long settled for a two-state solution. When Medea Benjamin, the fearless Jewish American activist, was in Gaza, she carried a letter from Hamas leaders to President Obama that made clear the government of Gaza wanted peace with Israel. It was ignored. I personally know of many such letters carried in good faith, ignored or dismissed.

Hamas is the only Arab government to have been freely and democratically elected by its people. It has now formed a government of unity with the Palestinian Authority. A single, resolute Palestinian voice – in the General Assembly, the Human Rights Council and the International Criminal Court – is the most feared threat to Israel's colonialist practises." - John Pilger

edit on 12-9-2014 by EC666 because: typo




posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: EC666
It is kinda funny to see that you choose to use the most Zionist source to debunk Zionist propaganda


I don't believe that Egyptians offered to secede lands in Sinai to the cause of Palestinians, but your rhetoric is really funny and your source is ... I really don't know more right-wing media in Israel
The Zionist of the Zionist lol



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 01:19 AM
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originally posted by: kitzik
a reply to: EC666
It is kinda funny to see that you choose to use the most Zionist source to debunk Zionist propaganda




It is only Zionist sources, or Israeli papers, recanting their claims (that Egypt offered land) because it is only these sources which ran the story in the first place. You will not find any major US or UK outlet which ran the bogus story.



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 07:30 AM
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"The most incessant propaganda says Hamas is committed to the destruction of Israel.

Khaled Hroub, the Cambridge University scholar considered a world leading authority on Hamas, says this phrase is “never used or adopted by Hamas, even in its most radical statements”.

The oft-quoted “anti-Jewish” 1988 Charter was, he says, "the work of one individual and made public without appropriate Hamas consensus."

The document is regarded as an embarrassment and never cited. Not only that, it was published when Hamas itself was a Israeli puppet group funded and armed by Israel to destroy the PLO.


You know what you've done my friend...
You've just destroyed Page 2 of the Playbook of Zionism... Hamas Charter
& you get a star and a flag for it!!!


Of course there is the matter of Page 1: Human Shields...
& Page 3: You're An Anti-Semite...


But one at a time is good!!!


Well done for exposing the Hoax as well pal!!!



posted on Sep, 13 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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Of course there is the matter of Page 1: Human Shields...



The actual Human Rights Watchdogs on the ground (United Nations, Red Cross, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International etc) always say the OPPOSITE of what Zionists claims. They say there is NO EVIDENCE of Palestinians using human shields and that it is Israel who repeatedly does. These human rights groups have hundreds of inspectors on the ground documenting this meticulously.

Here are the brief facts:

1. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch said the Israel Defense Forces used Palestinian civilians as human shields during the 2002 Battle of Jenin. The Israeli human rights group B'Tselem said that "the IDF systematically used Palestinian civilians as human shields, forcing them to carry out military actions which threatened their lives". Amnesty International also reported the IDF's systematic use of, quote, "human shields during the invasion of Beit Hanoun in 2004." Amnesty International and the UN have repeatedly found no cases of Palestinians using human shields.

2. In 2004, an instance of human shield use by the Israeli border police in the West Bank was caught on camera. A 13-year-old boy was captured by Israeli police and put in front of the jeep in order to deter other youth from throwing stones at the vehicle.

3. The Israel Defense Forces admitted it had used Palestinians as human shields; it acknowledged using human shields 1,200 times during the Second Intifada alone.

4. In February 2007, Associated Press Television News released footage of an incident involving Sameh Amira, a 24-year-old Palestinian. The video shows the West Bank resident serving as a human shield for a group of Israeli soldiers. An 11 year-old girl named Jihan Dadush was also used as a shield in 2007 by IDF soldiers

5. During the 2008-2009 Gaza War known as Operation Cast Lead, Israeli military forces were accused of continuing to use civilians as human shields by Amnesty International and the civil rights group, Breaking the Silence. Here, Israeli forces used unarmed Palestinians including children to protect military positions, walk in front of armed soldiers; go into buildings to check for booby traps or gunmen; and inspect suspicious objects for explosives

6. Amnesty International claimed that the Israeli military used human shields during the Gaza War of 2008-2009, stating that it found cases in which, quote, "Israeli troops forced Palestinians to stay in one room of their home while turning the rest of the house into a base and sniper position, effectively using the families, both adults and children, as human shields and putting them at risk." The UN Human Rights Council also accused Israel of using human shields during 2008-2009 Gaza Conflict.

7. The Guardian compiled three videos and testimony from civilians about alleged war crimes committed by Israeli soldiers during the 2008-2009 Gaza War, including the use of Palestinian teenagers as human shields. In the videos three teenage brothers from the al-Attar family were forced at gunpoint to kneel in front of tanks to deter Hamas fighters from firing at them and that they were used to "clear" houses for the Israeli soldiers.

8. In 2009, the IDF forced a 9-year-old Palestinian boy to open a number of bags they thought might contain explosives. The boy told he was hit by the soldiers and forced to work for them at gunpoint.

9 The UN has compiled evidence that Israeli soldiers used Palestinian children as human shields or informants fourteen times between early 2010 and early 2013. It says almost all soldiers involved in the incident have gone unpunished.

10. In 2014, Amnesty International carried out an exhaustive report of human rights abuses by both Israel and Hamas. The report, quote, “did not find evidence that Hamas or other Palestinian groups violated the laws of war to the extent repeatedly alleged by Israel,” and that ”contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials of the use of ‘human shields,’ Amnesty International found no evidence that Hamas or other Palestinian fighters directed the movement of civilians to shield military objectives from attacks."

It, quote, "found no evidence that Hamas or other armed groups forced residents to stay in or around buildings used by fighters, nor that fighters prevented residents from leaving buildings or areas which had been commandeered by militants."

15. Amnesty International investigated dozens of destroyed homes and civilian infrastructure by Israeli airstrikes and found that, quote, "none of them were being used by armed groups for military purposes". The report does not contest the presence of Hamas fighters and weapons in civilian locations, but does not believe this is, quote, “conclusive evidence of intent to use civilians as ‘human shields’, but rather the reality of a densely populated society under military occupation." [...] “when fighters take cover behind a civilian house or building it does not make that building and its civilian inhabitants a legitimate military target. Any such attacks are unlawful.”

16. While Amnesty International did not find evidence of Hamas using civilians as human shields, they did find evidence of Israeli soldiers doing just that. Their report goes on to state:

"In several cases Israeli soldiers also used civilians, including children, as “human shields”, endangering their lives by forcing them to remain in or near houses which they took over and used as military positions. Some were forced to carry out dangerous tasks such as inspecting properties or objects suspected of being booby-trapped. Soldiers also took position and launched attacks from and around inhabited houses, exposing local residents to the danger of attacks or of being caught in the crossfire. Several civilian ambulances were also comandeered by IDF forces."

17. In addition to Amnesty International, even the U.N. Human Rights Council concluded that Israel, quote, "used disproportionate force, deliberately targeted civilians, used Palestinians as human shields and destroyed civilian infrastructure during its incursion into the Gaza Strip to root out Palestinian rocket squads.”

That's what the UN inspectors on the ground who are watching stuff happen and documenting it are saying.

18. They're also collecting testimonies from victims of Israeli war crimes in which they were used as human shields:

"Breaking the Silence, a human rights group that publishes testimonies from Israeli soldiers, released a report in which soldiers admitted to their commanders urging troops to “shoot first and worry later about sorting out civilians.” The group also published testimony from a soldier who claims that his unit used Palestinians as human shields while raiding houses during a January 2009 invasion of Gaza."

Also, The Goldstone Report (a UN factfinding mission) concluded that, quote, “the Israeli armed forces repeatedly opened fire on civilians who were not taking part in the hostilities and who posed no threat to them,” and that “Israeli armed forces had carried out direct intentional strikes against civilians” by using “deliberately disproportionate force designed to punish, humiliate and terrorize the civilian population.”


Even the Israeli Interior Minister agrees. He said, “the goal is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages,” a plan to “destroy and damage infrastructure, public buildings, and government buildings.”

Gilad Sharon, the son of former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said, “We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza. The Americans didn’t stop with Hiroshima — the Japanese weren’t surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too. There should be no electricity in Gaza, no gasoline or moving vehicles, nothing. Then they’d really call for a cease-fire.”

Israeli minister Michael Ben-Ari said, “There are no innocents in Gaza, don’t let any diplomats who want to look good in front of the world endanger your lives, mow them down.”

This is basically an admittance of mass murder. So what you have is a colonialist illegally stealing land in violation of international laws, killing civilians as documented by the UN and at least 4 major Human RIghts bodies, and yet the Palestinians are accused of being savage.

The biggest irony, though, is this: Abbas, an Israeli puppet, gave Israel security cooperation and a West Bank mostly free of suicide attacks and rocket fire. In return he was given an increase in settlement expansions and additional lists of demands by the Israeli’s. Hamas has kidnapped soldiers and engaged in attacks. In exchange Bibi has negotiated with them, given them prisoner releases and exchanges and generally treated them seriously. From that perspective violence is yielding the better results and moderation is a mugs game. Of course history (India, South Africa, Ireland, the West Indies) has told us that anyway. Power and colonialists never give up anything without force and a demand.
edit on 13-9-2014 by EC666 because: (no reason given)




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