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Originally posted by twitchy
The source codes for voting machines are proprietary trade secrets, even with a sopena you would not be able to examine them, see my posts on the legal issues in The Diebold Factor thread for more information, yes, once implemented, they would remain invisible. How can you possibly take the role of an apologist on this issue by saying it was only for one machine in one area? Jesus, the principle alone is enough, but when considered along with the hundreds of other factors surrounding electronic voting machines and their political affiliations, you'd have to be a pretty damned hard core Bushie to ignore this, worse yet justify it by trying to argue it was a limited occurance. It wasn't limited, hell man, by some estimates 80% of the US vote is unaccountable now.
Jesus, the principle alone is enough, but when considered along with the hundreds of other factors surrounding electronic voting machines and their political affiliations, you'd have to be a pretty damned hard core Bushie to ignore this
Originally posted by DrHoracid
How many more times do I have to read this dribble. Get over it.....or get OUT.
Originally posted by alternateheaven
According to his affidavit, Yang, his employer, later informed him that the software might be used to �control the vote in South Florida.� He says that he would never have developed the software had he known its alleged ultimate purpose
Biggest bunch of BS ever, the knife cuts both ways and everybody knows it. The fact that the dude thought he was coding to prevent abuse by Democrats shows he knew the potential for abuse, but convienently decided to look away from the other side of the political specturm in regards to potential abuse. I wondder how much side money the dude was intially paid, and what caused him to roll over in the end?
If this isint an argument for Open Source I don't know what is. Only in closed source is something like this possible
Originally posted by Bout Time
It's important to recognize the "brush stroke" of the art, as an understanding of the overall asthetic.
- the fairy tale of America being split, with equal support for Bush, was also constantly marketed. I travel & sit on numerous con calls each day, all with a national emphasis. For those of us who travel invery mixed & diverse circles, we saw overwhelmingly more against a Bush second term than for it - from the Carolinas to California, there were diff issues & more vehemence from sectors, but it was not for Bush.
- It still has come down to Republican State secretaries somehow being Republican Party Chairman or co chairs, ruling over the vote rolls ( also touched by the DIebolds & ES&S groups since they are paid to run the tabulation data even for paper ballot areas ), the certification or lack there of regarding the kiosks, and the final say in when or if a recount happens.
If you fail to acknowledge that, maybe the hardcore Bushie label applies, no? I clearly see that as Ignorance Embraced
[edit on 7-12-2004 by Bout Time]
December 7, 2004
Date for Determination of Controversy as to Appointment of Electors
States must make final determinations of any controversies or contests as to the appointment of electors at least six days before December 13 meetings of electors for their electoral votes to be presumptively valid when presented to Congress. Determinations by States' lawful tribunals are conclusive, if decided under laws enacted prior to election day.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Here ya go BT....
Better get any type "controversy or contest" in before 12PM tonight, buddy, or guess what?
After 12pm, of the 7th, yours, and others crys, will go down in "infamy".
seekerof
Dinero, i have to agree with you 100%. Kerry's whole presidential run was a total sham,imho. Our fates were sealed quite awhile ago.
Originally posted by dnero6911
Duh, its not hard to do.... it just takes someone with no concience..
but yes.. Kerry conceded VERY quickly too, because his fellow S&B's member as it was planned is supposed to be good ol' pres
Ya know...it may be dribble to you, but to most of this nation it is very important.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
How many more times do I have to read this dribble. Get over it.....or get OUT.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Here ya go BT....
Better get any type "controversy or contest" in before 12PM tonight, buddy, or guess what?
December 7, 2004
After 12pm, of the 7th, yours, and others crys, will go down in "infamy".
Is this a statement in support of conducting fraudulent elections, stonewalling and obfuscating, then burying the crime under deadlines and artificial rules?
Shame on you. You do not deserve any freedom that you might currently enjoy, which doesn't seem to be much.
seekerof