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Obama administration plans to jail conservative author/speaker/filmmaker for 16 mths

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posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 08:21 AM
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www.nydailynews.com...





U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara ...... is requesting a 16-month prison sentence for the anti-Obama filmmaker,
who pleaded guilty to violating campaign finance law.

In a recommendation sent to U.S. District Judge Richard Berman, the prosecution balks at D’Souza’s lawyer, who requested only probation and community service for his client who is now “disgraced and humiliated.”

But the government jeered at the so-called repentance, saying D’Souza hasn’t taken responsibility for his crime and still brands himself a victim of unfair prosecution for his dislike of the Obama administration.


Dinesh D'Souza is a well known conservative author; speaker; film maker
who has openly critized the Obama administration.

It looks like he is going to get 16 months in prison for illegal campaign contributions. He has admitted his guilt and said he has repented. D'Souza's lawyers requested probation and community service as a punishment.
But the justice department doesn't think he has repented enough.

We know that the Obama Administration seeks maximum punishment and seeks out indiscretions on the part of it's opponents.

Is the sentence fair?

Has the Obama justice department sent any Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists to jail for 16 months or longer for illegal campaign contributions?

Is it just outright revenge?




posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
Has the Obama justice department sent any Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists to jail for 16 months or longer for illegal campaign contributions?


Have any been charged and convicted of exactly the same crime?



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: hellobruce

The question is, which I don't know the answer to, have any Democrats at all been convicted of illegal campaign contributions since Obama took office.

People being who they are, there is bound to be at least one. We all know that both sides have people who do this, no one side is all saintly.


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posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 08:42 AM
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He plead guilty to the charges that carry a 10-16 month prison sentence. So he knowingly admitted to trying to subvert the election campaign process...if only he had written the checks from a corporation instead of funnel money through his friends, this would be a non-issue. Thanks Supreme Court! Goodbye government "by the people", hello government "by the dollar".



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: the owlbear
He plead guilty to the charges that carry a 10-16 month prison sentence. So he knowingly admitted to trying to subvert the election campaign process...if only he had written the checks from a corporation instead of funnel money through his friends, this would be a non-issue. Thanks Supreme Court! Goodbye government "by the people", hello government "by the dollar".


Yes, he did plead guilty.

But have any Democrats been sent to jail for over a year for a similar crime?

My guess is no, if any have been convicted at all they probably got fines, probation and community service. Those are the usual punishments for this crime. Why go for the maximum sentence, that is not what normally happens?



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 08:53 AM
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d'sousa entered a guilty plea..also, he could have gotten 2 years, but, it was reduced to 18 months...here's the article...www.politico.com...

also, this is what he said in his own words....
At the court hearing Tuesday, D’Souza admitted he knew what he did was against the law.

“I knew that causing a campaign contribution to be made in the name of another was wrong and something the law forbids,” D’Souza said, according to Newsday. “I deeply regret my conduct.”

Brafman added in his press statement: “Mr. D’Souza agreed to accept responsibility for having urged two close associates to make contributions of $10,000 each to the unsuccessful 2012 senate campaign of Wendy Long and then reimbursing them for their contributions. Given the technical nature of the charge, there was no viable defense.”

the title of this thread is like hundreds of others here on ATS....misinformation to make Obama/liberals/democrats, look bad....but, what else is new.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

Has anyone ever plead guilty to federal campaign donation fraud when knowing the result is at least 10 months in prison? I could care less about who he is. People are sent to jail every day, registered Republicans and Democratics, and Independents for less. The trick is, don't get caught. Plenty of legal ways existed for him to funnel money to his college friend. His bad. Someone else gets caught, which I doubt anyone ever will now with Citizens United, I hope they get the same.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: the owlbear
He plead guilty to the charges that carry a 10-16 month prison sentence. So he knowingly admitted to trying to subvert the election campaign process...if only he had written the checks from a corporation instead of funnel money through his friends, this would be a non-issue. Thanks Supreme Court! Goodbye government "by the people", hello government "by the dollar".


Yes, he did plead guilty.

But have any Democrats been sent to jail for over a year for a similar crime?

My guess is no, if any have been convicted at all they probably got fines, probation and community service. Those are the usual punishments for this crime. Why go for the maximum sentence, that is not what normally happens?



your guess is wrong!....this took me 30 seconds to look up, c'mon, you might want to do this before posting something that is untrue
www.crainsnewyork.com...#
this is about a democratic operative convicted on all counts



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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He broke the law, he admitted it, period. I am no fan of Obama or most of his policies but there is no conspiracy here. If a Democratic supporter had done the same thing and gotten off scot free I would be the first in line with tar and feathers.

When individual conservatives/Republicans try to invent "conspiracy theories" (for instance saying " There must be a Democrat that did it too") you make all conservatives/Republicans look a little stupider.

There are plenty of real issues to deal with without continuing to ask for a birth certificate...
GET OUT AND VOTE.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: the owlbear
He plead guilty to the charges that carry a 10-16 month prison sentence. So he knowingly admitted to trying to subvert the election campaign process...if only he had written the checks from a corporation instead of funnel money through his friends, this would be a non-issue. Thanks Supreme Court! Goodbye government "by the people", hello government "by the dollar".


Yes, he did plead guilty.

But have any Democrats been sent to jail for over a year for a similar crime?

My guess is no, if any have been convicted at all they probably got fines, probation and community service. Those are the usual punishments for this crime. Why go for the maximum sentence, that is not what normally happens?



your guess is wrong!....this took me 30 seconds to look up, c'mon, you might want to do this before posting something that is untrue
www.crainsnewyork.com...#
this is about a democratic operative convicted on all counts



This was not a similar crime at all, he was also convicted of tax evasion
and fraud at the same time. All three crimes were wrapped into
the sentence.

More importantly


a Democratic operative accused of defrauding the state Senate Democrats' campaign arm of $100,000 and other charges,

note, he defrauded, made mad, messed over, stole money from the Democrats.

Not the same at all. Sorry.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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Up here theres a fellow in court for election fraud, he used automated phone calls to known non conservative voters to send then to the wrong voting polls, im not sure if a decision was made and if he will do any jail time, the difference i guess is he worked for the winning party in the last election.
edit on 12-9-2014 by dukeofjive696969 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
Not the same at all. Sorry.


Well, if you're going to accuse a Democrat of getting preferential treatment, FIND AN EXAMPLE and post it!

It's so much easier and lazier to say, "I bet a Democrat would be treated better! Whaaaa"!

Disgusting!



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

this was a similar crime, not exactly the same crime, but similar as it relates to the context of your post. it does say "in addition to tax fraud", which was an.....additional charge.......and so, i'll stand by my statement.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: jimmyx
a reply to: grandmakdw

this was a similar crime, not exactly the same crime, but similar as it relates to the context of your post. it does say "in addition to tax fraud", which was an.....additional charge.......and so, i'll stand by my statement.



Sorry, it was almost the same crime

your guy made the Democrats angry by defrauding them

D'Souza made the Democrats mad with his books/lectures/films

they both made the Democrats angry with them.

So basically the same when it comes to the question, would a large Democratic donor who was beloved by the Democrats receive the same treatment?



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 10:07 AM
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I actually like some of the works that D’Souza put out. But he did plead guilty. When you do such, you are pretty much throwing yourself upon the mercy of the court. Now he's paying the price. I have a feeling however, that this will not be the last we hear from him.

His next documentary will probably be about prison life.

He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: grandmakdw
Not the same at all. Sorry.


Well, if you're going to accuse a Democrat of getting preferential treatment, FIND AN EXAMPLE and post it!

It's so much easier and lazier to say, "I bet a Democrat would be treated better! Whaaaa"!

Disgusting!


My challenge is to get the Democrats who will be angry with my question,
to go out and research the answer for themselves.
Because like you and others who are angry for me even asking the question
and don't want to know through researching, the answer for themselves.

Hehehehehehe




edit on 10Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:09:12 -0500am91209amk125 by grandmakdw because: grammar



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: TDawgRex
I actually like some of the works that D’Souza put out. But he did plead guilty. When you do such, you are pretty much throwing yourself upon the mercy of the court. Now he's paying the price. I have a feeling however, that this will not be the last we hear from him.

His next documentary will probably be about prison life.

He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it.


You are right.

But my contention is that his treatment and the effort taken to "get" him was
mainly due to his political stance.
It is my belief that a Democrat who is beloved by the Democrats, would not be
prosecuted in the first place; and if I am wrong on that,
would get off with fines and probation only, maybe a few days in jail for show.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: TDawgRex
I actually like some of the works that D’Souza put out. But he did plead guilty. When you do such, you are pretty much throwing yourself upon the mercy of the court. Now he's paying the price. I have a feeling however, that this will not be the last we hear from him.

His next documentary will probably be about prison life.

He made his bed, now he has to sleep in it.


Too bad it won't be a hard cot in gen pop with a celly or two due to overcrowding. He'll go to the same country club where Poindexter and the Iran-Contra Contempt crew spent a few months before the Poppy Bush pardon.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: the owlbear

I don't wish the guy harm, which putting him in a Gen Pop prison would probably be a death sentence for him. Either way, regardless of where he goes, it will be dangerous for him. Prisoners aren't all stupid. Some one is bound to know who he is.



posted on Sep, 12 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
My challenge is to get the Democrats who will be angry with my question, to go out and research the answer for themselves.
Because like you and others who are angry for me even asking the question and don't want to know through researching, the answer for themselves.


A. I'm not a Democrat
B. Your question doesn't anger me. Your tactics sicken me, however.
C. I DID research and couldn't find anything. I did find another similar case in which the guy has been charged and pleaded guilty, but he won't be sentenced until October. Source



Chatwal, 70, a Padma Bhushan awardee and major fundraiser for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, had pleaded guilty in April to conspiring to violate the Federal Election Campaign Act by making more than $180,000 in federal campaign donations to three candidates through straw donors who were reimbursed.

He is currently free on a $750,000 bail and has surrendered his passport.

The charges carry a maximum prison sentence of 25 years but under the plea deal with the government, Chatwal could be sentenced to a little more than five years and may have to pay $500,000 in fines.


All your threads are like this. I give you ZERO credibility. They're just an Obama-bash fest without ANYTHING to back up your accusations...

Not what ATS is about, IMO.




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