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originally posted by: mirageman
originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: mirageman
Yes, Fred Crisman was involved with Ronald Dahl in the Maury Island incident.
I know this is taking the main direction of the thread slightly off topic but Fred Crisman (also an intelligence agent) is an odd character who :
* In the 1940s made claims that he was injured in WWII Burma by a lazer weapon by super robots from beneath the earth. The creatures he encounterd subterranean-dwelling "Deros," or "detrimental robots." as he called them.
* Was the perpetrator of a UFO hoax (the Maury Island UFO incident).
* Agitated to bring down the Mayor and many of the City Council of Tacoma in the early 1970s.
* Was possibly disguised as a vagrant and taken into custody, or was a radio operator on the "grassy knoll" (is there any other grassy knoll in history?) in Dallas on the day of the JFK assassination. He was also supposedly the first person called by Clay Shaw after Shaw's arrest in relation to the investigations that followed.
Crisman died in 1975 (aged just 56) but somehow I doubt his tactics and methods died with him.
I did notice that when Doty discusses the origin of the MJ-12 documents he merely states he was cleared by investigations of any involvement and does not issue any outright denial of such. So perhaps Crisman was a blueprint and Doty followed?
Doty hinted that 20% of his information was truth disguised in lies without giving away any clues. Maybe that was a lie as well?