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originally posted by: gazzerman
Regardless of the situation the cops are going overkill on so many occasions, they need to be better trained, I feel many are either excited to get a chance to play with their toys or are so scared for their own life that they go for the quickest resolution that brings them the least chance of harm.
originally posted by: Urantia1111
Ffs, he didn't lie about what he saw. He DID see a guy waving what he thought was an assault rifle around in Walmart. He placed a 911 call to report what he thought he saw. The cops aren't going to act any differently because the caller claims he's Rambo. The cops are supposed to make their own assessment when they get there, not act on what some random Walmart shopper thinks. They failed to do that. The witness obviously was mistaken, but it's the COPS who are charged with the responsibility of differentiating real threats from BB guns.
Open carry can lead to numerous problems. As a cop responding to calls about this activity and as a person who carries a concealed handgun everywhere, I have a unique insight. Here are some of the issues:
1) Open carry will cause hassles with other people and eventually the police. Unless you live in a western state, open carry isn’t very common. When the uneducated populace sees someone carrying a gun (without a badge), they assume that a law is being broken. They panic and call the cops. What they tell the dispatcher when they call generally has no basis in truth. It usually ends up being something like: “There’s a man with a gun running around the grocery store scaring people!” If you were a cop, how would you respond to that call?
If the caller would have been honest and said “There’s a person walking around the grocery store who has a gun on his hip. He isn’t threatening anyone and appears to be shopping.” As a cop, I wouldn’t even approach you. I’d educate the caller that no laws were being broken and leave.
But that’s just not how it happens in real life. Blame it on whomever you like, but reality dictates you’ll get a police response. The police response may be positive, or it may be negative. Who wants to deal with that when you can simply cover your gun?
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
Open carry in Ohio does not require a permit.
I think the cops are going to get sued. They may even go to jail.
And the man who called the cops and lied to get what he thought was a gun owner killed needs to go to prison for the rest of his life.
And they call gun owners dangerous.
originally posted by: stutteringp0et
Fake marines.... I've met one.
I met this guy while working for a wireless ISP. He was a sad sad person who felt the need to brag about everything. He got "MARINE SNIPER" tattooed on his arm in huge letters (the SNIPER tattoo was a new addition). He proceeded to show me his "M-16" that he carried in service (no select fire, it was just an average AR-15). When I finally got everything working properly, he sat down and fired up "Call of Duty" and zoned into it.
My guess is that he played war games so often and that he wanted to be a marine so badly, he invented a persona. He lived with his mom, and she looked embarrassed the whole time I was there.
originally posted by: spav5
I don't get it. So much venom against disturbed individual and so little towards the police who murdered a man by shooting him in the back.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
what a scumbag...his story didnt gel with me the first time i heard it....this guy deserves medieval justice pulp fiction style
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
The marine wasn't fooled. More likely, he is just a pig. He called it in and then watched the killing, saying it looked like the victim "was going to go violently". Standing, leaning on a toy gun, back turned, talking on the phone is "violent"? He's a lying pig.
originally posted by: TsukiLunar
I couldn't care less if he was a Marine or not. I find that irrelevant.
originally posted by: shrevegal
A real marine would have known all of what I mentioned and more...relevant to what the man was carrying. If there was any doubt, a real marine would have handled it himself I suspect.
In my opinion, Richie, along with the cops who shot Crawford in the back without so much as a "Freeze!", should be tried for murder of both Crawford and the woman who died of a heart attack.