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I'm a Christian but why do good spirits that visit me are always either Women or Children in form??

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posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: ccseagull
a reply to: johndeere2020
Satan is the great deceiver, is true. He will do anything, especially with our input, and copy and twist the words of the Bible to sucker one in.

We are to test all spirits. If you are a Christian then you have the Holy Spirit dwelling within you.

God doesn't send anyone else to help us, other than people and even then we must examine their lives and words of their mouth to see if they are really living with love towards God. Meaning do they say one thing but do another, help other people, live a life of forgiveness and ask for forgiveness.

Sure the mother spirit may be very helpful, as are the other benevolent entities but where are they leading you to in your search for answers? You've mentioned having a few OOBE which is an open doorway to the spirit world. And I don't mean passed on loved ones - I mean evil entities. The devil knows his time is near (as do other demons) but even so they will attach themselves to humans and spend a lifetime if it means causing confusion, taking you down the road to questionable behaviour (contacting spirits, communicating with them) - if it means taking you down and if it means taking your attention away from God.

Remember the passage where God says anyone communicating with spirits is detestable to God. This was in the Old Testament and Jesus has died for your (our) lives but it is still not something to fool around with.

The thing that right away warns me something isn't right is the children not showing their faces. Everything that is good (of God) shines and shows itself. The Holy Spirit within you is capable of healing you, you can help heal others by going out and commanding healing through the Holy Spirit.

Anyway back to testing the spirits: the only way you will know if this is right or of God is to question it. Simply ask, "Are you of Jesus Christ?" Or you can rebuke it and you'll know the answer.

I know of many people who have been in similar situations and then when they realize what they've been dealing with then everything turns nasty. Just remember that Jesus is your protector. All of us Christians are on different levels of awareness and growth. If the Bible doesn't mention something then either it doesn't exist or God doesn't want us to deal with it for the very reason that we aren't spiritually mature enough to handle it.

I hope this helps. Take care, and I've said all the above with love and not meaning any offence in any way. None of us are perfect but we can rejoice that we can grow from our mistakes because Jesus took care of that already.


^^^^ this!!!! Remember we are NOT suppose to eat from the Tree of knowledge of good and evil. ONLY the tree of life which is Jesus.




posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: stellawayten

If we weren't supposed to "eat from the tree of knowledge" why did "God" even "create" that possibility to happen? I mean it's all one big contradiction. Don't hit that big red "Destruct" button! But I mean you can if you want you'll screw everything up....Is my life really that boring that I don't get visited by ANYTHING? I mean I saw a UFO once, but that was it. Should I believe without a doubt it can happen to me so then when something happens like being visited by spirits I won't be stricken with doubt or questions? Seems like Christians have all the fun.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: InfinityandBeyond

Do you want your wife/girlfriend to be forced to love you or do you want her to have a choice?

(Or husband/boyfriend if you are a woman.)
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posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: defcon5

originally posted by: johndeere2020
But how come, the entities that have acted as my spiritual guardians - healed me in my worst illnesses, drove away malevolent entities from me, saved me from accidents/pending disasters, etc are either women (or probably just one female entity of great power) or children. The child entities often hid their faces.

The female entity which I often personally call my "Other Mother" or simply "Mother" or "Spiritual Mother" was especially powerful and seem quite adept at controlling the weather, even causing storms.

Could be that as a Christian you shouldn't be doing any of these things, ascribing any powers to them, or calling on any of these entities. You should only be praying to God in the name of Christ.


And cultivating a relationship with the Holy Ghost which leads to a relationship with the risen Christ. Be still and know that I AM God.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: johndeere2020

Where to begin.. First of all God is Male / Female. Kabbalisticly Jod Hava is the Hebrew letter Yod (male) and the letter Heh which is female. Also God is unknowable. God is pure energy and is within everything. We have a spark of the Divinity which is our Essence. Unfortunately most of this Essence is trapped in our egos / psychological defects.

We are Gods in the making or in other words a spark of Divinity that is making a pilgrimage through matter in order to become self-cognizant of our own Divinity. Unfortunately we tend to identify with our egos and cannot directly perceive our inner Spirit. However if we work on our intuition and pray to our inner Divine then we begin to perceive this Spirit within. This Spirit within is 1 of the 5 aspects of the Divine Mother. If this is who comes to you and teaches you then you are very lucky and most likely have done a lot of Work on the Path in previous lives. We should all be in constant communication with our Divine Mother.

Now to reiterate what others have said. When you are in the astral you need to conjure all who you come in contact with. Demons of the Black Lodge will dress as Masters of the White Lodge to fool those of us on the Path. The simplest conjuration is - In the name of Christ, By the power of Christ for the majesty of Christ are you the truth that I see before me? By conjuring in the name of Christ it forces demons to reveal themselves to you. Even high level Masters are fooled by demons and use conjurations.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: Klipothian
If God is unknowable why does the Old Testament say be still and know that I am God? Or why would Christ promise the infilling of the Holy Ghost at Pentecost? Or Christ saying you can only know the Father through the Son?



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: guitarplayer
Great questions. First we have to define "God". Most religions including Christianity have taken what was once a broader understanding of Spirit as it pervades the universe and reduced it to the dogma of monotheism. God is not a conditioned being. This means God has no limits. If we take this to be true then to know God absolutely you have to become God.

If you meditate (be still) you can through much diligence and patience come to know your inner God or spark of divinity. But to know the Father you have to incarnate the Christ (Christic Forces). This is a long and bitter road.


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posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: johndeere2020

Dude, the only training you need is through Jesus and God if you are a true Christian.. What you are involved in is contrary to the teachings of the Bible in so many ways it is actually demonic.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Klipothian

Wanting to become God is exactly what Lucifer wanted.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: Klipothian

Who says we have a spark of divinity within us? Not the new and old covenants of the bible. Which the OP said they were Christian. It plainly states that we are the fallen race of mankind. Due to Adams disobedience of guarding and protecting the garden.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: stellawayten

Lucifer literally means bringer of light. Lucifer was high jacked by the Catholic Church to become Satan or the Devil. You can believe the dogma of the church all you want but satan is the collection of defects / egos that we mistakenly think is the true perceiver.

We are all potential Gods and if our inner Divine Being is strong enough He / She puts us on the Path. The world today is in the Kali Yuga (Black Age) which is the most materialistic of the 4 ages. It is dominated by the Black Lodge. One of the biggest centers of power for the Black Lodge is the Catholic Church. The banking Cabal is another tool of the Black Lodge. Hell if we manipulate others for our own egos instead of asking permission of our inner Being we unwittingly serve the Black Lodge.

You can stay on the Wheel of Suffering and not strive to become a God if you like but you will likely be used by the Black Lodge and you will eventually be scrubbed in the lower planes through a devolutionary process that is long and painful. I am sure you will laugh at these comments. However, Jesus was an Initiate who studied in Egypt with the Hierophants and was of the Gnostic sect. He taught the Initiate (alchemical) Path to his disciples. This is the straight and narrows way, the Razor's Edge, the path of suffering. Baptizing or believing in Christ does not make you born again. To be born in the flesh takes a male, a female and the sexual act. To be born in Spirit requires the same three energetic elements except that the act ends differently. The. Ens Seminus (to quote Paracelsus) is sublimated and transmuted. Why? Because we need massive amounts of energy to purify ourselves and become one with the Gods. Kryasacti, kundalini, Fohat, Christic Energy... They are all the same.

Lucifer wants to bring the light and awaken us to our true destiny. The Black Lodge and all who serve it want us to remain ignorant, to feed our egos and do their bidding.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: guitarplayer

Read Blavatsky's elucidation on the Fallen Angels in the Secret Doctrine. We are those Fallen Angels. We chose to "Fall". When we finish our ascension / consciousness awakening through matter we will be far above the Angels who were afraid to incarnate through matter.

Yes we were cast out of Eden for the sin of eating of the tree of good and evil. In other words for the sin of fornication. We were taught how to transmute the divine sexual energy at the end of the Lemurian Age but we fell in love with the experience of matter and built egos that drive us to persue pleasure. However we can reenter Eden by the same door that we left - Sex - the ninth sphere of Kabbalah.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: Klipothian
All I know is I want no part of the selfish, greedy pleasure seeking souls of this world.



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: johndeere2020
I'm confused


I have no idea what you are dealing with but I am citing a few different sources that might help you better understand.

The links below relate to the Spirit of Wisdom and kundalini spirits.

The info about the Spirit of Wisdom comes from Ian Clayton who I highly recommended his teachings.

The links about kundalini spirits by Michael W. Smith I just came across today, so I can't say one way or the other how solid his stuff is.

I do agree with those who have said that you need to find out.


originally posted by: maceov
The voice asked, "DO YOU SEE THIS WOMAN?" I was seeing an elderly woman with hair of white, dressed in a sumptuous and beautiful floral dress. And I also understood that she was the embodiment of WISDOM. "I said, Yes Lord, " for I KNEW who it was that was speaking to me. The Lord said, "Through this woman, I shall meet ALL of your needs according to MY GREAT RICHES IN GLORY!"


Others have also had similar encounters with the Spirit of Wisdom...


This teaching is a huge box-breaking mind-bender that will challenge all of your previous notions of God the Father and the Spirit of Wisdom as depicted in the Bible.

If the Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom, what is Wisdom itself? What does it lead to? How do you obtain it? What do you do once you get it? How do you engage with it? Or is it literally a ‘her’?

Have you ever wondered about the Spirit of Wisdom? When we read about her in Proverbs, we think about her as a notion, or a mindset, or a gift. But, could she be more? Could she actually be a heavenly being of some sort? Can we engage with her? What would happen if we did engage with her?

Who is the Spirit of Wisdom

Ian Clayton - Spirit of Wisdom


Ian Clayton - Wisdom


"Ian Clayton, a New Zealand prophet and father of four, is a man who found himself seemingly chosen by the demonic realm to become a great occult leader. At age 12, his growing awareness of God led him to the Bible and he started reading it from the beginning. Halfway through Deuteronomy he decided that it was full of rules and regulations and didn’t want anything to do with it. Just as he shut the Bible he heard a voice say, “Put your hand on top of the table and pick the table up.” Ian put his hand flat on the table top and it rose, sideways off the floor.

“It was an amazing power rush,” Ian explained. “Suddenly, I walked in power.”

Excerpt from Shifting Shadows of Supernatural Power

More links in another thread here.

Info on kundalini spirits by Michael W. Smith...


The kundalini spirits are impersonators of the Holy Spirit. Extremely dangerous and the ones that will deceive the elect at the end of the dispensation of grace and into the tribulation. These spirits cause the people to crash spirutually later. They fill them with false hope, fake ministry promises, false spiritual experiences and deceptive miracles. They leave they with deep personal pain and spiritual confusion about God. I have been casting spirits out of prophetics for years. They are good people who love God but are deceived. The Kundalini attacked north America in 1994. Please feel free to join our discussion at facebook.com/groups/hardcorechristianity The House of Healing



posted on Sep, 10 2014 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: stellawayten

Well said. The difficult part is realizing that eventually we must transcend our judgement of good and bad and see the divine spark within all beings. Not that we would condone their selfishness or identify with those parts we deem "good" but that an understanding would exist of how all the pieces fit together and that we are all moving to our own rhythm. Easier said than done LOL



posted on Sep, 11 2014 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: Cuervo
Could you give us more detail about her appearance? Is it consistent? Does she hold anything or is accompanied by any animals? Colors of clothing, eyes, etc? Can you determine a possible ethnicity? Does her advice follow a general theme or sphere?


She had quite fair skin and seems to be Aryan (Indo-European) and black-haired and possibly dark brown or brown eyes.

I have only seen her face ONCE and that was a couple of months ago. In all her previous appearances, her face was always obscured by her hood. This time, she pulled it back a little for me to see her face.

She did not wear make up, always wore dark clothing, sometimes with metallic artwork. She seems to be in her mid 20's. Had soft facial features. I did not get a very good look at her face though, it was dark and it was brief. I got a good look and feel of her hands though, and they were soft, and gentle, and lovely.

She only gives me words and ideas (clues) and it then become the subject of my research. She never directly imparted me knowledge.

She always let me find the answer for myself, only assists me in looking in the right direction. The bulk of that knowledge was about Christ and exposing the lies of our world and religion.



posted on Sep, 11 2014 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: Halfswede
I have the same question. Why do you call yourself a Christian? I am not saying anything good, bad or indifferent, but out of genuine objective curiosity, how are you on one hand claiming to take Christ as your path/saviour etc., but at the same time talking about spirit guides/helpers? Don't get me wrong, I am not judging, just curious as it seems very much against the Christian way.

That said, there are countless reasons you may encounter spirits of both genders. There is no real significance, but in general asking them for help will only invite trouble. If you have the ability to see and communicate with them, that is fine as long as there isn't any real attachment or pursuit there shouldn't be much room for trouble.

However, if you are seeking something from them, it is not advised. You may think you are getting help, but in the long term you will likely find out differently. They may not even have bad intentions themselves, but...I will just say that you can't get something for nothing. There is a trade even if you don't see it. Best to steer clear and cultivate yourself without those distractions.


I am a Christian since 20 years ago. I never asked HER for help. But she had always been there with me since birth.

It doesn't mean life was always easy because someone always took the fall for me. On the contrary, I became one of the poorest among my childhood peers not by choice. She led me into this life so I would see the plight of the weak and the oppressed. It's difficult to see when life is good. It's difficult to see the mad corruption in our world if you are living in the lap of its luxury and enjoying life.



posted on Sep, 11 2014 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: Halfswede
I have the same question. Why do you call yourself a Christian? I am not saying anything good, bad or indifferent, but out of genuine objective curiosity, how are you on one hand claiming to take Christ as your path/saviour etc., but at the same time talking about spirit guides/helpers? Don't get me wrong, I am not judging, just curious as it seems very much against the Christian way.

That said, there are countless reasons you may encounter spirits of both genders. There is no real significance, but in general asking them for help will only invite trouble. If you have the ability to see and communicate with them, that is fine as long as there isn't any real attachment or pursuit there shouldn't be much room for trouble.

However, if you are seeking something from them, it is not advised. You may think you are getting help, but in the long term you will likely find out differently. They may not even have bad intentions themselves, but...I will just say that you can't get something for nothing. There is a trade even if you don't see it. Best to steer clear and cultivate yourself without those distractions.


I am a Christian since 20 years ago. I never asked HER for help. But she had always been there with me since birth.

It doesn't mean life was always easy because someone always took the fall for me. On the contrary, I became one of the poorest among my childhood peers not by choice. She led me into this life so I would see the plight of the weak and the oppressed. It's difficult to see when life is good. It's difficult to see the mad corruption in our world if you are living in the lap of its luxury and enjoying life.



posted on Sep, 11 2014 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: Halfswede
I have the same question. Why do you call yourself a Christian? I am not saying anything good, bad or indifferent, but out of genuine objective curiosity, how are you on one hand claiming to take Christ as your path/saviour etc., but at the same time talking about spirit guides/helpers? Don't get me wrong, I am not judging, just curious as it seems very much against the Christian way.

That said, there are countless reasons you may encounter spirits of both genders. There is no real significance, but in general asking them for help will only invite trouble. If you have the ability to see and communicate with them, that is fine as long as there isn't any real attachment or pursuit there shouldn't be much room for trouble.

However, if you are seeking something from them, it is not advised. You may think you are getting help, but in the long term you will likely find out differently. They may not even have bad intentions themselves, but...I will just say that you can't get something for nothing. There is a trade even if you don't see it. Best to steer clear and cultivate yourself without those distractions.


I am a Christian since 20 years ago. I never asked HER for help. But she had always been there with me since birth.

It doesn't mean life was always easy because someone always took the fall for me. On the contrary, I became one of the poorest among my childhood peers not by choice. She led me into this life so I would see the plight of the weak and the oppressed. It's difficult to see when life is good. It's difficult to see the mad corruption in our world if you are living in the lap of its luxury and enjoying life.



posted on Sep, 11 2014 @ 01:22 AM
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a reply to: johndeere2020

Is the hearth near and dear to you? Are your thoughts often on domestic dreams and concerns? Sacred fire is important to you?



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