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We are all Palestinians, but many of us don't know it yet.

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posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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Monday Morning Drive-By...

The above sentence jumped out at me during my morning readings. I was reading the article titled:

"The Socialist Alternative to a World of Injustice" at www.truth-out.org...

...and was floored by the truth of the statement.

We then get into the meat of the argument:



Of course, the general experience of most people in the United States isn't comparable to that of Palestinians living under bombings, blockades and occupation. But with each passing year, we lose more of our freedom--not the red, white and blue Freedom! bull#, but real things, like access to abortion and contraception, not being spied on by Google and the government, and going to college without facing half a lifetime of debt.
The dominant culture--promoted in schools, churches, media and Hollywood--teaches us to identify with Israel rather than Gaza, the police rather than Mike Brown, corporations rather than workers.


In the somewhat rambling and meandering article supporting 'people power' the author goes on....



One might suppose that preserving a climate safe for human habitation might be one area where even the One Percent would feel a sense of solidarity with the rest of humanity. But they don't--or rather, they can't, because their primary obligation is not to people (even their own descendants), but to profits.


And makes a point with...



This is the first rule of capitalism, and it's not just about corporate greed or political corruption. Reducing carbon emissions on a large scale runs directly up against the interests not only of oil companies, but every industry that has deeply invested in an infrastructure based on carbon energy--and therefore, it can't happen. The long-term survival of our species (and many others) is subordinated to the irrational needs of capital.


And finally comes to his topic of the benefits and potential of true socialism....



Not surprisingly, "the right circumstances" don't come around that often--capitalism does its best to ensure that they don't. Factories are moved from cities with experienced class fighters to poor towns desperate for employment--or, better yet, from the point of view of capitalists, across national borders. Unions are broken and demoralized. African Americans are transformed from being the leading edge of radical movements to being the primary targets of domestic "wars" on crime, drugs and self-worth.




Those who disagree with socialism often point to the many examples of union defeats or workers holding horrible ideas, as if this seals their argument. But as the American socialist Hal Draper once wrote, "It is not a question of how the proletariat can be deceived, betrayed, seduced, bought or manipulated by the ruling powers of society like every other class. The basic point is that it is the proletariat that it is crucial to deceive, seduce, and so on. "


Have a joyful day and week all....
edit on 8-9-2014 by FyreByrd because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:22 AM
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I think I am going to work a little overtime today.

The extra 10-15% tax contribution makes it all worth while.




posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:22 AM
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You definitely have my opinion that this article rambles. Its a good thing you got the point so you could share it. Idt many of us would have stuck it through.

When you ponder why the masses allow rights to he taken away, it comes down to short sightedness. People aren't seeing the big picture or the implications of the many small rights being lost.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Those "winning" the game always seek to delay collective action by the "losers". Action always arrives. That's probably why the USG is arming up domestically.

How do the USG and oligarch's continue to concentrate wealth and influence? Turn American imperialism into a religion and convince a wide spectrum of sub-groups that they are the "chosen ones". Socialism and communism are labeled manifestations of abstract evil. Never mind what those words mean. LOL.

This substantial group of self proclaimed "chosen ones" will attempt to maintain the status quo under increasingly surreal circumstances. Case in point --Zionists.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?


The green back and colonial script worked before it was undermined. Were they both not used under the constitution?



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?


The author - not yet off to work addresses your 'formulaic' responses.

Utopia's by definition are impossible so your psuedo-question, is irrelevant and distracting.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?


The green back and colonial script worked before it was undermined. Were they both not used under the constitution?


I suppose they were used.

As for being undermined, wasn't the undermining a nod towards socialism and a turn away from capitalism?



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?


The author - not yet off to work addresses your 'formulaic' responses.

Utopia's by definition are impossible so your psuedo-question, is irrelevant and distracting.


Avoiding the main question.

Perhaps I should have used the term, "Workers Paradise".



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: FyreByrd
I stopped here:


What accounts for these different responses? Information certainly plays a role, or rather the misinformation that most of us get from the corporate-owned media.


The SOCIALIST Government (95%) member's control 95% of media...especially in DC.

Seems like propaganda.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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I'm curious.

What freedoms would I gain, that I don't already have, if socialism replaced our current structure in the US?



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
I'm curious.

What freedoms would I gain, that I don't already have, if socialism replaced our current structure in the US?


The freedom to own one color of under-shorts "RED".
NOT VERY FREE!



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: Granite

originally posted by: beezzer
I'm curious.

What freedoms would I gain, that I don't already have, if socialism replaced our current structure in the US?


The freedom to own one color of under-shorts "RED".
NOT VERY FREE!


I think I'd gain the freedom from responsibility.

I think I'd gain the freedom from individuality.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?
Excellent observations and post! Was going to post the same about this propaganda article.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?


The green back and colonial script worked before it was undermined. Were they both not used under the constitution?


I suppose they were used.

As for being undermined, wasn't the undermining a nod towards socialism and a turn away from capitalism?


Not if they were undermined by federal reserve notes.

Who knows if capitalism works? Has it ever been done outside of a borrow/tax system?



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:15 AM
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You are free to walk out of any capitalist country for the most part. Can you say that about any socialist country? I mean true socialist countries with "elections" wink wink... not semi socialist countries with free, haha, healthcare.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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What a pinko loon. I would like to see him a enjoy his granola patchouli and soymilk cereal with a few dozen Hamas rockets crashing down around his kitchen.
government of any kind will not solve human problems. Rather it is the responsibility of the individual and groups of individuals to make their immediate area a heaven on earth.
If all would do this there would be no need for government or pain or suffering.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: FyreByrd




posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?


The green back and colonial script worked before it was undermined. Were they both not used under the constitution?


I suppose they were used.

As for being undermined, wasn't the undermining a nod towards socialism and a turn away from capitalism?


Not if they were undermined by federal reserve notes.

Who knows if capitalism works? Has it ever been done outside of a borrow/tax system?


I believe that our federal income tax system is relatively "new".

Capitalism does work. But it requires people who want to work.

I'm no economist so it is difficult for me to be succinct on this topic.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FyreByrd

Capitalism is the worst form of economics, until you compare it to all other forms of economics.

(nod to Winston Churchill)

It's interesting how the OP's article cries for "freedom" yet endorses an ideology that is the antithesis of freedom.

The author bemoans the "rights" of some, and ignores the "rights" of the unborn.

I would imagine that to embrace this ideal, the Bill of Rights and Constitution would need to be scrapped, so it is not a major concern of mine.

But I am curious.

How would this utopia be established in the US?


The green back and colonial script worked before it was undermined. Were they both not used under the constitution?


I suppose they were used.

As for being undermined, wasn't the undermining a nod towards socialism and a turn away from capitalism?


Not if they were undermined by federal reserve notes.

Who knows if capitalism works? Has it ever been done outside of a borrow/tax system?


I believe that our federal income tax system is relatively "new".

Capitalism does work. But it requires people who want to work.

I'm no economist so it is difficult for me to be succinct on this topic.


John Smith coined the term "Work or Starve" every colonist had to work 4 hours a day farming. Boy are we 180 away from anything resembling that concept today.



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