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Stephen Hawking: Research on the ‘God particle’ could cause space-time to collapse

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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
Relax, he was joking.


"A particle accelerator that reaches 100bn GeV would be larger than Earth, and is unlikely to be funded in the present economic climate."
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I wonder if they could do it in space.




posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: olaru12
Sorry, but this strikes me as very funny: catastrophic vacuum decay. Of course, in practice and reality, I'm sure this is quite a natural disaster….

It reminds me of the Aronofsky movie Pi, where at the end, the mathematician trying to build a processor that can produce the string of numbers that are the remainder to the solution of the division of Pi, says looking at the sun can blind you and therefore, some things are not meant to be known….
tetra



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Finally a good doom porn that includes all banksters, politicians and ice bucket fans. This are good news.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

God as a creator of existence itself, is a theme shared by virtually all monotheisms. No matter what that God is called by that religion, that is a running theme.

The Higgs Boson being referred to as the God Particle, is a nod to the fact that without the Higgs boson, nothing would have mass, and therefore nothing as we know it would exist, the very fabric which underpins this universe would literally be impossible.

There is no suggestion that the particle in question is any kind of manifestation of the power of the almighty, or at least, there is no such suggestion from the scientists involved with researching the particle. There are people out there, who believe in God, and accept the wisdoms revealed by science, who might be able to see one in the other, but that is a matter between an individual and their deity, should they have one.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:26 PM
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a reply to: Char-Lee

Doubtful.

The earth's circumference is ~24000 miles. Imagine the amount of material it would take to build an accelerator that size?

The risk of misplaced bread would be greatly reduced which is always a bonus.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Char-Lee

Doubtful.

The earth's circumference is ~24000 miles. Imagine the amount of material it would take to build an accelerator that size?

The risk of misplaced bread would be greatly reduced which is always a bonus.


Well I assume he meant inside the atmosphere it would need to be that big...how big in space or on a planet with less gravity i wonder.

Hum well they already work in a vacuum so maybe it would be the same.


In linear accelerators, particles travel in a vacuum down a long, copper tube

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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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You get more energy from a lightning bolt traveling 30,000 feet from the clouds to the ground. Just imagine the size of Tesla coil you would need to get those size of sparks. And it has been proved than anti-matter as well as X-rays are generated with every flash. And that is nothing compared to the energy generated by the Sun.

The Higgs Boson was called the "God Particle" because it's existence was so elusive to prove.

Sounds like somebody is trying to scare off rival researchers in order to keep some space for himself.
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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:48 PM
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Is his fame dwindling and books sales down? I'm surprised someone else hasn't taken this extension to particles to this point before now.

The simulation is most likely programmed to protect itself at that level unless the designer would like to see it happen. Although it seems like such a quick ending that most other results would be much more interesting to monitor.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 04:16 PM
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Just a question; If time/space did collapse, wouldn't the simulation just reset itself?



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 04:16 PM
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Lol finally Stephen hawking is unknowingly waking up to the truth
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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

No offense but I think that although he is a brilliant man,Stephen Hawking is way overrated in his field.But because of his disability he gets way more credit than he deserves and gets a free pass everytime he`s shown to be wrong.He`s admitted his theory of everything is flawed, now says black holes can`t exist and apparently thinks the Hadron collider is capable of starting a chain reaction that could suck up the universe.(not possible with the current power output,would require much more power for this to even be possible) They should name a dish after him at the Waffle House. As stated before he is a brilliant scientist but there are several men behind the scenes that are smarter and whose advice i would take before Hawkins.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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Lol, its probably the devil trying to test our species
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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
Just a question; If time/space did collapse, wouldn't the simulation just reset itself?


Is it built to reset or just a blue screen of death. I guess we wouldn't know either way.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Char-Lee

Doubtful.

The earth's circumference is ~24000 miles. Imagine the amount of material it would take to build an accelerator that size?

The risk of misplaced bread would be greatly reduced which is always a bonus.


And this, Kandinsky, is hilarious. Thanks for giving me a much-needed laugh today. It seems this information is to give us a perspective, if nothing else, on our attempts to explain particles, much less existence, in general…
tetra



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
Relax, he was joking.


"A particle accelerator that reaches 100bn GeV would be larger than Earth, and is unlikely to be funded in the present economic climate."
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Phew! I can go back to worrying about ebola then.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:27 PM
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It occurrs to me that if it's a simulation, purely, then everything we are "studying," and observing, is merely simulated, as well. So whatever action we take, or cause to happen, will be simulated, as well.
tetra



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:37 PM
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Yeah but WHOOPEE! I won't have to go to work anymore!



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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Quantum tunneling borrows from the future. If you want to relate this to religion, then prophecy is quantum tunneling. The future is drawn into the past so we can see it occur twice. In physics, a false vacuum is the lowest energy state possible before collapse. In the early universe, matter was in a high state of order with low entropy. As the universe expands and cools, this like a hot cup of coffee cooling. The lowest energy state in relation to the Higgs field is the borrowing we do from the quantum vacuum to give matter mass. Energy is information and the Higgs Field is information flow as a projection of matter in a dimensional state. Don't you watch Dr. who?

Law would prevent the collapse. The Strong nuclear force is impenetrable.
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cj6

posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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It's a THEORY so calm down. Nothing's going to happen.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:49 PM
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Lol! If you're looking to make $$$, don't go into particle physics!

Anyway, back on topic:


In his preface, Hawking stresses that the possibility of the Higgs boson behaving in such a way is highly unlikely — and that creating the conditions in which the particle would is impossible given the current state of technological development.


^this is the important takeaway, not the over-sensationalized headline.



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