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MPs' pay rise of 9% 'should go ahead'

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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: twfau
John Pugh of Southport, a rare succesful Liberal Democrat MP.


So, in 2013/14 your MP claimed £39,369 in expenses. This covered rent on a second home (presumably in London) of £1,450 pm. The rest is servicing his constituency office (rent, phones etc).

Regards




posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: twfau
John Pugh of Southport, a rare succesful Liberal Democrat MP.


So, in 2013/14 your MP claimed £39,369 in expenses. This covered rent on a second home (presumably in London) of £1,450 pm. The rest is servicing his constituency office (rent, phones etc).

Regards


That's actually a good deal. If one can do it they all can.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 06:45 PM
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last time I got a pay rise was in 2008 :/ but I have to just suck it up and deal with it because theres plenty other people out there who would be willing to do my job for less.

In that time
My rent has increased 3 times
Council tax 6 times
Water & electric 6 times
Food is going up all the time among other things like phone/internet.
I dont subscribe to any TV packages anymore, just watch the free channels, means I miss most of the live sports though, got used to watching the highlights on free TV.


I have to keep cutting back on things every year, now I buy only a fraction of the luxury food I used to, don't eat or drink out, somtime just a pack of supermarket beers (could explain why all the pubs have been shutting down)
Spend alot less on clothes, not bought any new ones for 2 years.


I remember David Cameron once saying on TV we are all in this together.
TOGETHER MY ASS
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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: NeoSpace
And people wonder why people choose not to bother working. It's doesn't take rocket science to work it out. I've been unemployed for a few years now through illness...work related.. I do my clothes shopping in charity shops (thrift shops for you Yanks).....never been better dressed in my life, Armani, Animal, Ben Sherman, Helli Hanson etc, all brand new, and i'm doing my bit for world poverty and the British heart foundation, PDSA, Cancer research etc.



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posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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MPs should be made to live on minimum wage for at least a year, so they know what's it's like for the people they systematically abuse everyday.



posted on Sep, 7 2014 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: PurpleDog UK
Actually maybe some form of Facebook driven protest should be initiated......

Any ideas......?.

Maybe a video of eggs thrown at your local MP or an MP ice bucket challenge....ie water thrown when they least expect it.....

Let's see how long before gchq get hold of me......

Ha ha ha

PDUK


Yeah, that's going to work so well, a cyberspace protest against a bunch of criminal assclowns in parliament alleged involved in some of the largest pedophile rings. I like the OP's suggestion better regarding a guillotine outside, but why not rope, it's reusable, has a low carbon footprint and is considered a "green" product.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 02:27 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
And people wonder why the number of Scots, who have the chance to dump this nest of Vipers", is growing by the day.


The Scots have the same problems. Was it not Alex Salmond himself who spent vast sums in 2012 at the Ryder Cup (with his wife) and spent the next couple of years avoiding a Freedom of Information request. You may want to think an independent Scotland will be a land of love, joy and equality, but politicians are politicians. Mr Salmond's pension arrangement is frankly corrupt.

On the OP. I actually think MPs should have an increased salary and a reduced and more transparent expenses pot - this is what these arrangements are trying to deliver. Some MPs work very hard - certainly my MP works hard. That may be a bitter fact for some people who think that they are all scroungers, but here's a challenge. Find out who your MP is and have a look-see as to what he/she gets up to.

Regards

My local MP is Gloria De Piero. She has been dubbed Gloria 'Disappeario' by her constituency lol, due to her not bothering to turn up to vote on what are important issues to us, such as the hated bedroom tax.

It seems there aren't many good MP's at all these days. We need more real people like Dennis Skinner in politics IMO.

Today's MP's don't have any passion for anything, most are only interested in a free luxury ride through life on the taxpayer quid.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 03:28 AM
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Years and years ago, Councilors were not paid a farthing (yeah, THAT far back). All they got was the barest of expenses and that was mainly for travelling to council meetings.
They received no wage, they stood for council because they WANTED to not because of a paypacket and exorbitant 'extras'.

As my mum told me, they had their heart in the job, not their hand in the till, and as a consequence, they had to listen to the people who voted them in.

Rainbows
Jane



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

Yeah, that's going to work so well, a cyberspace protest against a bunch of criminal assclowns in parliament alleged involved in some of the largest pedophile rings. I like the OP's suggestion better regarding a guillotine outside, but why not rope, it's reusable, has a low carbon footprint and is considered a "green" product.

Cheers - Dave


Well there is a lot of MP's and you cant forget the bureaucratic support staff and stupid think thanks too your looking at 2000+ scum and thats not even putting the bankers in!. The French Revolution showed the guillotine gave pretty good throughput and remained reliable. No hassel just chop, remove the body then wack the next crook in



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
First of all thats not my opinion but the opinion of the body that regulates MP wages!

MPs' pay rise of 9% 'should go ahead'


The quote that got me is:




Marcial Boo, chief executive of the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa), said MPs did an important job and should not be paid a "miserly amount".


The current £67,000 is a "miserly amount" really??????

Really!

Most Brits can only dream of earning that £67,000 a year! Plus expenses!

Many Brits have not seen pay rises in years and the public sector that includes hard working police and NHS staff have pay capped at 1%.

Disgusting!

As far as im concerned politicians should have there pay capped at what the national average wage. That way they have incentive to do there job right, do badly your pay goes down, do well it goes up.

I think us Brits should consider building a guillotine out side parliament. And I envy the Scots allowed the chance to break free from the Westminster scum.


As someone who has passed through Westminster on a regular basis and met a lot of MP''s ( I think MP really stands for Master Parasite) I can safely say there is NOT ONE MP who is poor, after all even if they complain about getting a wage of £67k is worth it in their eyes. its more than double the amount the average person has to live on.
But please don't just assume that the amount claimed here of £67,000 is all they get.

After all they get to claim back expenses as well, get 'donations' from people who want' *ahem* favours, get pay from being on boards of companies who think having an MP on the books is ok and all the other perks. One MP claimed back cleaning of his moat, another claimed back for a chocolate bar let alone any other claims retrieved by family members employed on behalf of the MP (porn movies anyone?).

MP's live in LALA land, where money is no object to them, so giving themselves a pay rise is all well and good, I know for a FACT that they change the colour scheme of their buildings when a new party wins an election but they change their offices and furniture to fill it on a whim and to hell with the cost to the taxpayer. I know of one building in fact refurbishing its reception to the tune of £900,000 to the tax payers purse even though they are leaving the building in less than 4 years.

We the people should limit the amount of ANY increase to the same as the rest of us, deny them 'donations', deny them board positions whether silent or not, and make them take a sobriety test every time they make a decision that affects the general public.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 08:39 AM
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Where would we but the guillotine though there's the Issue ? You have outside parliament that gives quick access. But nearby Trafalgar square gives a good viewing area? But we could go for tradition and reopen Tyburn



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: doobydoll
My local MP is Gloria De Piero. She has been dubbed Gloria 'Disappeario' by her constituency lol, due to her not bothering to turn up to vote on what are important issues to us, such as the hated bedroom tax.


There's more to life than the "under-occupancy penalty" aka the "bedroom tax". It's not a tax for a start, it's a reduction in benefits. How can a reduction in benefits be a tax? Anyway, enough of that!

Gloria De Piero MP, is fairly active in the House, as is shown www.theyworkforyou.com...

Regards



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 04:49 PM
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I'd gladly be the one to light the fuse and blow the whole of the Palace of Westminster to pieces along with the vast majority of the current incumbents, Civil Servants, Policy Advisors and lobbyists.

I'd then build a bloody big wall around London and most of the Home Counties and expel it from the UK.

Maybe then we'd be able to go about building a nation that we all can be proud of free from the 'old boy network' and the amoral and corrupt system they use to further their own agenda's and the mutually self-serving party political system that provides neither true representation or accountability.

Rant over.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
I'd gladly be the one to light the fuse and blow the whole of the Palace of Westminster to pieces along with the vast majority of the current incumbents, Civil Servants, Policy Advisors and lobbyists.

I'd then build a bloody big wall around London and most of the Home Counties and expel it from the UK.

Maybe then we'd be able to go about building a nation that we all can be proud of free from the 'old boy network' and the amoral and corrupt system they use to further their own agenda's and the mutually self-serving party political system that provides neither true representation or accountability.

Rant over.


Guy Faulks was the original British hero



posted on Sep, 9 2014 @ 06:19 AM
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here by the way yer aww more than welcome tae move up here and enjoy life in an independent nation awa fae Westminster!

We are currently looking for highly skilled workers to boost the economy
we have lots of spacious land, two rather large nice cities on the central belt
hunners ay nice lochs and glens tae relax in when yer bored ay the toon!



posted on Sep, 9 2014 @ 06:21 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Aye mate I says before, give Scotland a chance to set it up, then we invite you all into union with us and we ditch Westminster completely , how will they survive without an economy or a workforce.



posted on Sep, 9 2014 @ 06:24 AM
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Sorry to post my opinion on the pay rise !

It's all about privilege , these MP's are born then raised on the premise that nothing is out of bounds for them that nothing they do will be bad , they deserve the best and are better than everyone else.

Why would they even question the pay rise they can vote on it themselves , who are we to question their hard work?

18th September im ditching the #in lot of the robbin bastards



posted on Sep, 9 2014 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: sapien82
here by the way yer aww more than welcome tae move up here and enjoy life in an independent nation awa fae Westminster!

We are currently looking for highly skilled workers to boost the economy
we have lots of spacious land, two rather large nice cities on the central belt
hunners ay nice lochs and glens tae relax in when yer bored ay the toon!



You know what? I may very well ditch the UK and move up with my business. Love the Isle of Arran



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