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I posted this in 'The Gray Area' and not 'Philosophy' for a reason. If you want to debate the moral questions then go ahead and start a similar thread there
Hmm, having an opinion is quite different to knowing something, and if that is all you are able to contribute to the thread then I shall dismiss you as someone not worthy of debate.
originally posted by: This1000xThis
Seems the vast majority of people in this thread know who the really bad person is.
Of course, but specific style details are irrelevant. It was not offensive in any way, it was not a health and safety issue in any way, it was hidden from view at all times under a company issued jacket, and a rule which was breached by many other employees who have since confirmed this to me.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Can i ask what was the offending Bracelet that got your son the sack.?
Interesting opinion but irrelevant to the legal case. The issue is that the employer broke the law and will be punished in the same way it chooses to punish employers who break its rules. That is fair.
originally posted by: Kaifan
a reply to: grainofsand
With every attempt you make at sounding logical and justifying your bad parenting and bad choices, you look worse and worse, go out and enjoy your money and revenge, everyone knows that's what you are/were going for,
I prefer to keep the thread open as I enjoy robust discussion. I appreciate the amatuer psychology efforts but my mind is very much at peace thank you, and I'm not here for approval, friendship, stars, or flags, just entertaining discussion. ...and I do find your emotional posts amusing.
it would be better for your peace of mind to close this thread and forget you came here asking for approval.
My my, such emotive assertions, have a cup of tea, it often helps.
Also don't be ridiculous, nothing will change the fact that you are a terrible parent, just look at your last comment, is terrible, go away bad parent, hush hush!
...again, I advise that cup of tea, and some soothing music.
And if there's someone immature here that would be you, with your lack of good parenting skills and lust for revenge, grow up already.
Does the employer have authority problems or find difficulty in following simple laws? Should the courts bow to its command?
Yes, only after your son and his failure to comply "3" times had him fired. Does your son has authority problems or finds it hard to follow simple directions? did you teach him that he needs to answer to no one and can do whatever he wants? and that everyone has to bow to his command? maybe?
Haha, brilliant! I'm loving the emotion, and it is exactly why I love this site. I reply to as many responses as I can because discussion in a typed medium entertains me. Indeed, if everyone agreed with me it would be quite boring and I would lose interest.
Again, looks like everything was ok as long as good money was involved. What an outstanding act of hypocrisy.
I'm out of here, good luck in your lawsuit, pretty sure you'll win, enjoy that money you don't need but have spent weeks trying to justify against who know how many people here and on the real world and other forums. I think you got the wrong forum, people here are not that naive, why didn't you took this to a mainstream news site? imagine that, all the approval and probably even more "oh poor you and your kid" comments!
I find you amusing, why would I disregard you?
P.S. Don't sue me, i'm just speaking my mind, i have freedom to do it, although you probably can find a reason to say it was distressful to you and you felt alienated and so lost sleep and work hours and now you need to get compensated with 100,000 dollars or whatever, trust me, i 'm not either on the US or UK. Go ahead and disregard me because i'm living on a different country
Oh my dear, do have that cup of tea
Also, your son will fail in life due to your teachings. Bye
The lesson to the employee is that when an employer is vociferous with it's rules, and uses them in a less than equitable way to dismiss a worker when they no longer need him, it is arguably important that the employer is held to the same high standard of employment law. 'Rules is rules' as the company happily proclaimed as it's mantra.
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
If you cared about what was right you would have put a stop to the child labor abuse when it happened not retaliate because it didn't end the way you had liked. Legally the company is in the wrong, morally, well that's a horse of a different color now isn't it.
Ask yourself, what lesson has my son learned here? Perhaps, don't get mad, get even? If someone hurts you hurt them more?
There is a moral question that could be asked in every life situation, including the morality of a company knowingly breaching employment law for profit, the morality of selectively using company rules for personal reasons to dismiss an employee, I could go on, but again, this is not in the philosophy forum so I'm only interested in the lawfulness of the situation or not.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
this is a moral issue no matter how hard you try to paint it in a different light......you are responsible for teaching your children moral values.....