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U.S. Military fighters trailing unresp. aircraft in Atlantic... UPDATE: Plane crashed near Jamaica

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posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 12:53 PM
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Seems to be registered to a doctor in Rochester...

www.aviationdb.com...

Maybe they were flying to Naples to play some golf and there was a problem...bummer




posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

If the windows are frosted it's lost pressurization. That's why he's incapacitated. An outflow valve failure can be insidious, and even trained pilots can fall to recognize what's happening. It happened both to Payne Stewart with the Lear that he was on, and a 737 over Greece.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

That's what I figured. Thank you for adding your vast knowledge to the thread.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58
The CNN report says that this is the second plane that this has happened to inside of a week. Another crashed into the Atlantic under similar circumstances. I didn't catch what day they said. I'll go back and look again.
They said it was last weekend, and the plane was unresponsive and flew over restricted airspace around Washington, DC.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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Flightradar24 shows it just cleared the southern coast of Cuba.
Still at 25,000 ft.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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Maybe USA wants more war. Attack Cuba. I would not doubt it. USA is a terrorist nation. Making terror everywhere and calming to have no responsibility then later go and fight what they trained and armed. Then call them the terrorist. If the terrorist are our puppets what would that make us? oops not us, the USA, i do not include myself. TERRORISTS



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Someones sabotaging out flow valves it seems.Now the FAA will have to get inspections of all valves before take offs.


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posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: roth1
Maybe USA wants more war. Attack Cuba. I would not doubt it. USA is a terrorist nation. Making terror everywhere and calming to have no responsibility then later go and fight what they trained and armed. Then call them the terrorist. If the terrorist are our puppets what would that make us? oops not us, the USA, i do not include myself. TERRORISTS



Smh... find another thread to ruin, troll.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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He was being escorted by Lucky 01 and Stalk 52, from the Florida ANG, with Gasman 02, a KC-135 out of Alabama. They reported the pilot slumped over, but he began moving as it came down some, but appears to never have regained full consciousness.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: roth1

I fail to see the connection here. This is an unresponsive private plane that just cleared Cuban airspace.

Maybe try to watch a bit longer before trying to jump on the "Blame USA" train, like so many are quick to do.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: roth1
Maybe USA wants more war. Attack Cuba. I would not doubt it. USA is a terrorist nation. Making terror everywhere and calming to have no responsibility then later go and fight what they trained and armed. Then call them the terrorist. If the terrorist are our puppets what would that make us? oops not us, the USA, i do not include myself. TERRORISTS




Dude slowly step away from the computer and walk outside and take a deep breath of fresh air.

If the U.S wanted to attack Cuba I think they would find an easier way.
Lol.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: theantediluvian

If the windows are frosted it's lost pressurization. That's why he's incapacitated. An outflow valve failure can be insidious, and even trained pilots can fall to recognize what's happening. It happened both to Payne Stewart with the Lear that he was on, and a 737 over Greece.


Ah I didn't see anything about the windows being frosted. Thanks for pointing that out and explaining the significance! Sounds like they're estimating that it's going to run out of fuel any moment now.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

These are incredible details, and paint a very sobering picture of the inside of the cockpit.

Do you have a source I can follow too as you get this information?



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Why dont we have a way to snatch planes out of the air or to safely land them pilot or not



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

damn, that's awful



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Only if it's the same type of plane in both cases. There are millions of planes flying a day with no problem. Two in a week isn't even a blip.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:08 PM
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Currently following a plane on my Flight Radar app and it's just past Cuba flying south at 25,000ft 310mph. Only able to see the plane and no military aircraft on the app.

Pretty sure it's the plane as it flew out off Rochester. Anyone else have a flight radar app that can confirm?



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: gatorboi117

It was on my Flightradar24 Facebook feed.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

Too much risk of the person in charge of that method snapping or being bought and deliberately bringing them down.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

Like Bane did in the Dark Knight Rises.

But in all seriousness, this should be looked into. I'm actually sure it has been, there are probably incredible forces in physics that would make this extremely difficult to do, but there could potentially be a way.

One would have to account for the vertical and horizontal movements of the airplane as it encounters patches of hotter or cooler air, which would make lining up a snatch even more difficult.

But I see no reason it couldn't potentially be done...


On another note: anyone with a degree in aeronautical engineering interested in a start-up?




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