Daughters of Cain, Sons of Seth, Fallen Angels Oh My

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posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 09:44 PM
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I have always enjoyed K House materials and this article is fantastic: Sons of Seth and Daughters of Cain or Fallen Angels

As a precursor to this article, it is necessary to know what happened to the seed of Abel? Abel had the more perfect sacrifice. Cain killed Abel. In Genesis 4, we see Cain banished and Seth born. In Luke 3, the genealogy of Jesus starts with Son of God, Adam, then Seth. No mention of the other two. In Genesis 5, we have Seth as the Son. In Genesis 6, we have the daughters of men and the Sons of God. Some scholars contend that the Sons of Seth are the Sons of God. The daughters of men would then be the ones born to Cain. Read the article. The conclusion is below. Very interesting. I agree with the author. Jude makes it clear they were Angels. Enoch outlines the entire story, then Jude notes Enoch's version. We also have the mention of 1 John and the Sons of Cain being related to the seed of the serpent.

1 John 3:12

Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.

Conclusion to the article:



In Summary

If one takes an integrated view of the Scripture, then everything in it should "tie together." It is the author's view that the "Angel View," however disturbing, is the clear, direct presentation of the Biblical text, corroborated by multiple New Testament references and was so understood by both early Jewish and Christian scholarship; the "Sethite View" is a contrivance of convenience from a network of unjustified assumptions antagonistic to the remainder of the Biblical record.

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posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 10:12 PM
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Do you have any idea the number of takes (interpretations) there are of the bible? I'm curious because although most bible clan agree with what the book is, what it means seems like, in many cases, a big field of division.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: AlephBet

To be honest, I never knew there was a "Sethite" interpretation. It seems pretty cut-and-dry. Supernatural humbugs were roaming around, pissing off the Abrahamic gods and then they got hosed down.

The Sethite version of the story seems like an obvious attempt to make a square scriptural peg fit into a religious round hole. That's the case for a whole lot of current understandings in the bible. When I read something in the first testament that (again) seems pretty cut-and-dry, I'll hear the consensus on the interpretation and I'm left totally baffled.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: AlephBet

So, let me get this straight. Seth only had sons, and they were children of Yahweh, or whatever. Cain only had daughters and they were fallen angels?

Men = good

Women = bad




posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: windword

I think the daughters of Cain represent perversions of the truth. The church and its teachings are "daughters" of Cain, a.k.a. the evil one and his offspring. The church is considered to be the "bride" or female hence daughters.

Cain represents a liar, his daughters represent religion in general, "brides" that spread lies and the daughters of murderers.

Cain (Satan) and his daughters (religion) still have control over the world to this day. Cain murdering Abel is a metaphor for evil stomping out good through lies and manipulation.

That's just my opinion though, I could wrong.
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posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 11:39 PM
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The book of Enoch gives a description of what was before the days of Noah with the watchers breaking Gods rules and what they taught us, forbidden knowledge. It clears up the forbidden fruit allegory. Such names which are usually attributed to evil spirits such as Azazel are mentioned as part of the rebels. Also, the pact is emphasized which is a ritual to make sure someone will follow you , it is designed to remove free will or at least restrain it, if you agree.

Oh! And the story goes....As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

So we got aliens/demons/fallen angels who came here to take woman for themselves and teach us math, writing systems, charms, architecture, cosmetic (make up), war, weapon making, fashion, social hierarchies, herbal and root knowledge and much more. God was obviously not happy since, those "angels" transgressed His word and gave us false gifts of knowledge which only made things worst for us, because lets face it God made everything here with us in it and we needed not their fruits, only Gods. Moreover, there are even hints of genetic manipulation and giants are clearly mentioned. The watchers were wise, intelligent, tall, handsome, strong, like the giants in the pyramid hieroglyphs, like the giants from the aboriginals of the Americas stories, like like like many stories all over the world (hundreds of these fallen angels came to earth).

This got me thinking, all those Greek mythical creatures (centaur, minotaur, etc) were maybe true, dinosaurs, all the unexplained structures we have on earth were, I suspect, all pre flood.

After the flood, evil must have survived or found another way to use us somehow and covered up history using religion as a disguise with crusades, jihads or what ever gave them the means to kill, rape and destroy the past. Control the past and you control the future. The purpose is to give us amnesia about where we came so we will not know where to go and make us doubt the existence of these watchers which extends by logic to doubting the existence of a Creator. It is working like a charm on some.

Today, we are rediscovering what we were taught and some will use this to make abominations which will trigger the second coming. What do you think?



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

So, to make a long story short, women represent perversion of truth, who spread lies and are all daughters of a murderer, Cain.

But all of Seth's sons are sons of god who always speak truth?

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posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: AlephBet

So, let me get this straight. Seth only had sons, and they were children of Yahweh, or whatever. Cain only had daughters and they were fallen angels?

Men = good

Women = bad



No. Not that at all. Read the article.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: AlephBet

I read enough. I stopped reading here:


The "Sons of God" are deemed to refer to leadership in the line of Seth; the "daughters of men" is deemed restricted to the line of Cain.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 12:08 AM
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Not at all, it's just that religions usually take a feminine role as the counterpart to the masculine God.

I don't think this was an attack on women at all. Cain was male and he is considered evil and fallen as well.

Daughters of Cain represent churches, or daughters of the devil (Cain).

I consider Earth to be feminine in nature but it's not evil, nor do I think women are inherently evil. If anything men are the evil ones, they are usually the ones rallying for war and genocide.

I think this is what the bible means about "man lying with man", churches and their doctrines are the imaginations of men who claim to be the "bride" of the masculine God, hence man lying with man is a sin.

Earth is the true bride, anything else claiming to be the bride is actually a "man" lying (double meaning here
) in the place of the true bride.

I believe in equality, I'm not a sexist.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 12:22 AM
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I believe in equality, I'm not a sexist.


Then please stop buying into the genderizing and sexualazation of spirituality through religion.


For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 12:31 AM
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daughters of men
sons of God

of men meaning those whose spirit wasn't in the Spirit of God.
of God meaning those whose spirit was in the Spirit of God.

What a thing is, is not its image, but its spirit. What a thing looks like is its flesh or image. The image is the image of the awareness [of the spirit.]

Daughters of men does not mean that there are no daughters of God.


Also, it is worth noting the difference in capitialization. Spirit (captiial s) means the thing, while spirit (lowercase s) is a spirit within a Spirit of a thing. Same with son and Son and god and God. The OP is confused. Adam is a son byway of his spirit being after the Spirit of Jesus, Adam is not the Son whose spirit is the very Son.

Bride means to be a helper made of your flesh. Adam was born out of the flesh of God (who is Jesus / the flesh) and as the bride, he is made of/in the flesh / image / dirt in order to be a helper (church). The Spirit of Jesus, the will of Son, is to be the image of awareness / the body of awareness so as to illuminate or explain the awareness and the awareness is Father and the the awareness of his spirit (The Holy Ghost.)

The Son is the image so as to lead/shepherd you to Father's awareness. In the same way, your body is the image of your forfather's awareness / concepts and their awareness / concepts were the awareness / concepts of the/their spirit, or will, or function.

All the first born images/sensations is/were Jesus so as to lead you to Father's wisdom/concepts/awareness. If your will is to lead/help other's you are a daughter of God and a bride of Jesus (church) because you have the same will as the Son - you have taken in his spirit.

A child of God has the will/spirit of the Son of God. A child of man does/has the will/spirit of a son of man. A child of Satan does the will/spirit of a child of Satan... you get the point.
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posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: windword

I haven't bought into anything, I've come to these conclusions on my own. I'm only drawing out the meaning (at least in my opinion) of what has already been genderized and sexualized.

As for your quote, Jesus compared the kingdom of God to a wedding banquet in Matthew 25. He says that 5 virgins are invited to the wedding while another 5 were locked out, the virgins who get into the wedding are considered righteous. Even at the beginning of the chapter where you got that quote (Matthew 22) Jesus compared God's kingdom to a wedding banquet.

So I guess even Jesus "genderized and sexualized" spirituality.

God is androgynous, containing equal amounts of male and female attributes. Just like a coin has a heads and a tails, God is both male and female, but just because it has two sides doesn't mean it isn't a single coin.
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posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 07:02 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

God transcends time and space, what you are saying makes no sense.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 07:18 AM
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If there is doom porn, maybe this should be called ... Beginning porn? No.... Gnosis porn? Creation porn?

Yeah, i think that will do. I dub this thread .... Creation-porn.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 07:18 AM
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If there is doom porn, maybe this should be called ... Beginning porn? No.... Gnosis porn? Creation porn?

Yeah, i think that will do. I dub this thread .... Creation-porn.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 07:18 AM
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If there is doom porn, maybe this should be called ... Beginning porn? No.... Gnosis porn? Creation porn?

Yeah, i think that will do. I dub this thread .... Creation-porn.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 07:18 AM
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If there is doom porn, maybe this should be called ... Beginning porn? No.... Gnosis porn? Creation porn?

Yeah, i think that will do. I dub this thread .... Creation-porn.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 07:18 AM
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If there is doom porn, maybe this should be called ... Beginning porn? No.... Gnosis porn? Creation porn?

Yeah, i think that will do. I dub this thread .... Creation-porn.



posted on Sep, 4 2014 @ 09:27 AM
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Let's see, we have 3 generations. The son's of Cain, the son's of the Watchers (fallen angels) and the son's of Seth. The son's of Seth are the son's of GOD. So where the others 2 belong? To say that they both are the seed of evil is a simplistic answer. We can not blame an entire race by the sin of just one person (yeah, I know what the Bible says about the original sin and so on and so forth). But still, is not correct to blame everybody.
If we really understand what is written, we will understand that Cain teach us to manipulate the ground, when is the best time to work out the land, to harvest, to sow (he was a tiller of the ground). He built a city, so he was a stonemason. Those things are not bad or evil things. The same goes for the "fallen angels".

Other thing we have to consider is that the generations may have cross (interbreed) at some point before the flood (Genesis chapter 4 and 5). If that were the case then we have both bloods.





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