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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Jesuslives4u
My issue with that is only God can judge.
People can't, and shouldn't.
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: blupblup
originally posted by: jtma508
See? Who says we need to wait for ISIS to show up? We've got the same thing here already.
When these pastors take to the streets and start beheading people and murdering babies and etc, then there will be a comparison... until then, we have absolutely nothing like ISIS anywhere in the west.
Thank you. I was wondering how long this thread was going to go with comparing the ISIS to the United States. There is NO comparison at all!
As far as the homosexual discussion....easy.....hate the sin not the sinner.
What exactly does 'Hate the sin and not the sinner' mean in terms of gay people?
In terms of gay people? why not all people who sin? Simple......hate all sin but not the sinner. According to the OT being homosexual is against God's law. If you have a problem with that then take it up with him personally.
I'm an atheist. I'd also like to point out that according to 'God's Law' it's illegal for me to eat bacon, have sex with a menstruating woman, eat shellfish, plant more than one kind of seed in one field, mix meat and dairy products (no cheeseburgers in other words - oh noes!), be uncircumcised, work on the Sabbath and be an atheist in the first place. Come on, don't be ridiculous. Those are the rules of a Bronze-age people. Surely we have advanced beyond that?
There are many laws from God and you named a few. Clearly you have never met him nor do you believe. That is fine with me. Not everyone belongs in paradise.
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Jesuslives4u
My issue with that is only God can judge.
People can't, and shouldn't.
Correct and he does..... everyday.
He does not always wait to judge after the resurrection. Some people get "judged" from God as they walk around on this rock.
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Jesuslives4u
My issue with that is only God can judge.
People can't, and shouldn't.
Correct and he does..... everyday.
He does not always wait to judge after the resurrection. Some people get "judged" from God as they walk around on this rock.
So you agree that it isn't our place to judge?
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: blupblup
originally posted by: jtma508
See? Who says we need to wait for ISIS to show up? We've got the same thing here already.
When these pastors take to the streets and start beheading people and murdering babies and etc, then there will be a comparison... until then, we have absolutely nothing like ISIS anywhere in the west.
As far as the homosexual discussion....easy.....hate the sin not the sinner.
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: blupblup
originally posted by: jtma508
See? Who says we need to wait for ISIS to show up? We've got the same thing here already.
When these pastors take to the streets and start beheading people and murdering babies and etc, then there will be a comparison... until then, we have absolutely nothing like ISIS anywhere in the west.
Thank you. I was wondering how long this thread was going to go with comparing the ISIS to the United States. There is NO comparison at all!
As far as the homosexual discussion....easy.....hate the sin not the sinner.
What exactly does 'Hate the sin and not the sinner' mean in terms of gay people?
In terms of gay people? why not all people who sin? Simple......hate all sin but not the sinner. According to the OT being homosexual is against God's law. If you have a problem with that then take it up with him personally.
I'm an atheist. I'd also like to point out that according to 'God's Law' it's illegal for me to eat bacon, have sex with a menstruating woman, eat shellfish, plant more than one kind of seed in one field, mix meat and dairy products (no cheeseburgers in other words - oh noes!), be uncircumcised, work on the Sabbath and be an atheist in the first place. Come on, don't be ridiculous. Those are the rules of a Bronze-age people. Surely we have advanced beyond that?
There are many laws from God and you named a few. Clearly you have never met him nor do you believe. That is fine with me. Not everyone belongs in paradise.
I'm an atheist. Of course I don't believe. Are you seriously saying that bacon, scallops, cheeseburgers and planting different things in the same pot (I have a tomato plant next to the chilli plant after the dog chewed up the one the tomato plant used to be in) are all bad?
Surely modern human laws aimed at modern human life should take precedence?
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: blupblup
originally posted by: jtma508
See? Who says we need to wait for ISIS to show up? We've got the same thing here already.
When these pastors take to the streets and start beheading people and murdering babies and etc, then there will be a comparison... until then, we have absolutely nothing like ISIS anywhere in the west.
Thank you. I was wondering how long this thread was going to go with comparing the ISIS to the United States. There is NO comparison at all!
As far as the homosexual discussion....easy.....hate the sin not the sinner.
What exactly does 'Hate the sin and not the sinner' mean in terms of gay people?
In terms of gay people? why not all people who sin? Simple......hate all sin but not the sinner. According to the OT being homosexual is against God's law. If you have a problem with that then take it up with him personally.
I'm an atheist. I'd also like to point out that according to 'God's Law' it's illegal for me to eat bacon, have sex with a menstruating woman, eat shellfish, plant more than one kind of seed in one field, mix meat and dairy products (no cheeseburgers in other words - oh noes!), be uncircumcised, work on the Sabbath and be an atheist in the first place. Come on, don't be ridiculous. Those are the rules of a Bronze-age people. Surely we have advanced beyond that?
There are many laws from God and you named a few. Clearly you have never met him nor do you believe. That is fine with me. Not everyone belongs in paradise.
I'm an atheist. Of course I don't believe. Are you seriously saying that bacon, scallops, cheeseburgers and planting different things in the same pot (I have a tomato plant next to the chilli plant after the dog chewed up the one the tomato plant used to be in) are all bad?
Surely modern human laws aimed at modern human life should take precedence?
You speak of human laws........not God's laws. God is precedence over human. You are looking at this issue from "flesh side" not from a "spiritual side". God is spirit.
It is written in the NT - "Ask and you shall receive." I always ask and I always receive.
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: blupblup
originally posted by: jtma508
See? Who says we need to wait for ISIS to show up? We've got the same thing here already.
When these pastors take to the streets and start beheading people and murdering babies and etc, then there will be a comparison... until then, we have absolutely nothing like ISIS anywhere in the west.
Thank you. I was wondering how long this thread was going to go with comparing the ISIS to the United States. There is NO comparison at all!
As far as the homosexual discussion....easy.....hate the sin not the sinner.
What exactly does 'Hate the sin and not the sinner' mean in terms of gay people?
In terms of gay people? why not all people who sin? Simple......hate all sin but not the sinner. According to the OT being homosexual is against God's law. If you have a problem with that then take it up with him personally.
I'm an atheist. I'd also like to point out that according to 'God's Law' it's illegal for me to eat bacon, have sex with a menstruating woman, eat shellfish, plant more than one kind of seed in one field, mix meat and dairy products (no cheeseburgers in other words - oh noes!), be uncircumcised, work on the Sabbath and be an atheist in the first place. Come on, don't be ridiculous. Those are the rules of a Bronze-age people. Surely we have advanced beyond that?
There are many laws from God and you named a few. Clearly you have never met him nor do you believe. That is fine with me. Not everyone belongs in paradise.
I'm an atheist. Of course I don't believe. Are you seriously saying that bacon, scallops, cheeseburgers and planting different things in the same pot (I have a tomato plant next to the chilli plant after the dog chewed up the one the tomato plant used to be in) are all bad?
Surely modern human laws aimed at modern human life should take precedence?
You speak of human laws........not God's laws. God is precedence over human. You are looking at this issue from "flesh side" not from a "spiritual side". God is spirit.
It is written in the NT - "Ask and you shall receive." I always ask and I always receive.
Please answer this question. Based on what the bible says, should people eat bacon, shellfish or cheeseburgers? Yes or no?
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: blupblup
originally posted by: jtma508
See? Who says we need to wait for ISIS to show up? We've got the same thing here already.
When these pastors take to the streets and start beheading people and murdering babies and etc, then there will be a comparison... until then, we have absolutely nothing like ISIS anywhere in the west.
Thank you. I was wondering how long this thread was going to go with comparing the ISIS to the United States. There is NO comparison at all!
As far as the homosexual discussion....easy.....hate the sin not the sinner.
What exactly does 'Hate the sin and not the sinner' mean in terms of gay people?
In terms of gay people? why not all people who sin? Simple......hate all sin but not the sinner. According to the OT being homosexual is against God's law. If you have a problem with that then take it up with him personally.
I'm an atheist. I'd also like to point out that according to 'God's Law' it's illegal for me to eat bacon, have sex with a menstruating woman, eat shellfish, plant more than one kind of seed in one field, mix meat and dairy products (no cheeseburgers in other words - oh noes!), be uncircumcised, work on the Sabbath and be an atheist in the first place. Come on, don't be ridiculous. Those are the rules of a Bronze-age people. Surely we have advanced beyond that?
There are many laws from God and you named a few. Clearly you have never met him nor do you believe. That is fine with me. Not everyone belongs in paradise.
I'm an atheist. Of course I don't believe. Are you seriously saying that bacon, scallops, cheeseburgers and planting different things in the same pot (I have a tomato plant next to the chilli plant after the dog chewed up the one the tomato plant used to be in) are all bad?
Surely modern human laws aimed at modern human life should take precedence?
You speak of human laws........not God's laws. God is precedence over human. You are looking at this issue from "flesh side" not from a "spiritual side". God is spirit.
It is written in the NT - "Ask and you shall receive." I always ask and I always receive.
Please answer this question. Based on what the bible says, should people eat bacon, shellfish or cheeseburgers? Yes or no?
YES
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: Jesuslives4u
But why would god give a hoot about any of that?
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: AngryCymraeg
Really makes you wonder about all the other stuff in the bible that should be ignored...
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: AngryCymraeg
Slavery is OK and two people of the same sex loving each other is not.
I just...I mean...I don't even know what to say about the bible, or religion, or those that adhere to the insanity. I just don't know what can be said about any of it.
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
originally posted by: blupblup
originally posted by: jtma508
See? Who says we need to wait for ISIS to show up? We've got the same thing here already.
When these pastors take to the streets and start beheading people and murdering babies and etc, then there will be a comparison... until then, we have absolutely nothing like ISIS anywhere in the west.
Thank you. I was wondering how long this thread was going to go with comparing the ISIS to the United States. There is NO comparison at all!
As far as the homosexual discussion....easy.....hate the sin not the sinner.
What exactly does 'Hate the sin and not the sinner' mean in terms of gay people?
In terms of gay people? why not all people who sin? Simple......hate all sin but not the sinner. According to the OT being homosexual is against God's law. If you have a problem with that then take it up with him personally.
I'm an atheist. I'd also like to point out that according to 'God's Law' it's illegal for me to eat bacon, have sex with a menstruating woman, eat shellfish, plant more than one kind of seed in one field, mix meat and dairy products (no cheeseburgers in other words - oh noes!), be uncircumcised, work on the Sabbath and be an atheist in the first place. Come on, don't be ridiculous. Those are the rules of a Bronze-age people. Surely we have advanced beyond that?
There are many laws from God and you named a few. Clearly you have never met him nor do you believe. That is fine with me. Not everyone belongs in paradise.
I'm an atheist. Of course I don't believe. Are you seriously saying that bacon, scallops, cheeseburgers and planting different things in the same pot (I have a tomato plant next to the chilli plant after the dog chewed up the one the tomato plant used to be in) are all bad?
Surely modern human laws aimed at modern human life should take precedence?
You speak of human laws........not God's laws. God is precedence over human. You are looking at this issue from "flesh side" not from a "spiritual side". God is spirit.
It is written in the NT - "Ask and you shall receive." I always ask and I always receive.
Please answer this question. Based on what the bible says, should people eat bacon, shellfish or cheeseburgers? Yes or no?
YES
Thank you. So you are willing to break the biblical law. As am I.
originally posted by: sacgamer25
a reply to: olaru12
Something to ponder about pastors like this. Of the 40,000 denominations of Christianity all believe in the maddening wine know as "Original Sin".
The concept of original sin is this. You were born under the influence of Satan. Your whole life their is no way out of this contract. No matter how hard you try Satan/sin always comes out on top. This is why rituals must be performed.
Personally I don't believe thier is a big bad Satan that is my boss. I follow the Holy Spirit instead. The perfect Spirit that teaches man to overcome Satan.
By this pastors belief you know that he himself is a sinner who believes he can never overcome his sin. In his life Satan must win at least sometimes, because that is what he has confessed to believe.
What could a man's sin be who is obsessed with the sexual lives of others?
I will leave the rest to imagination.
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: Jesuslives4u
Ha! How convenient for you. You can eat pork, but I'll go to hell for banging my boyfriend.