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God loves this atheist.

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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 02:42 PM
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I do not believe in your God.
I do not believe in any god.
I do not claim that God does not exist.
No true scientist would make such a claim.

I am sure, though, that any true God is a perfect God.
This God would be perfect in grace, compassion, and love.
I would be a child of this Father, your Father.

I am far from perfect; I am lazy, conceited, and selfish,
but I am not an evil soul.

God would love me because I love my brothers and sisters.
All of you.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: Diderot

im curious...why one ultimate god, and not ten or twenty?



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Yeah like the Hindu's
they have such colorful gods.
God begins where mans imagination ends.
I agree with you though Gods loves everyone no matter which club you belong to.
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Diderot

im curious...why one ultimate god, and not ten or twenty?


He does say "any" true God.

I take that as multiple choice

EDIT: "He" at least in avatar. Ya never know
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: boymonkey74

if even atoms are comprised of multiple parts, then why just one god? four fundamental forces, because no one force can get the job done.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: Diderot

Yes that is the underlining lesson.

Humanity has a God, Humanity also reincarnates.
The universe births all of us, But the Creator is much different than the universe.

The Creator forms and shapes the Universe.
Maybe on a small scale, But non the less. Changing and forming the Universe with one visit at a time.
There are ancient intelligences that exist.
The magician, the chariot, The priest, ect. The story of the Hero.
The tarot tells the epic monomyth. The monomyth is seen throughout the world in multiforms.

Christianity tries to blanket Yahweh with the image of Jesus. By directly associating the helanistic periods of Egypt into their monomyth of Osiris (Yahweh) ISIS ( mary ) Jesus (Horus) But horus is a name from Heru, Who was a real person.

The thing about the monomyth is, it tainted the origins of humanity with cultural taboo during these periods when people were writing. The Real Egyptians had no form of writing, There is no hyroglyphs on the sphinx or the Ancient giza comple ( Pyramids) It's thought the Nubians and Sumarians controlled it at one time. During that period the nose and face of the Sphinx was damaged. They lost Egypt to attacking tribes and eventually Summaria became like Rome, and fell from the inside by military campaigns and assasination. The Epic of Gelgamesh as well as well as the 7 tablets of creation probably gained their origins from the region, Like gnosticism it was a corrupted version of the previous ancient cultures that obtained the knowledge. One religion tries to downplay or alter another and the chain continued. We can see this with the bible strickly condemning babylon, Even to this day Islamists want to destroy all the Jews because of these deep rooted conflicts between religious and cultural control. That's what i think it all is anyways. There are native tribes in places around the world who had little contact to modern society, Who have knowledge of the stars. Knowledge of the planets, they have names for them. Knowledge that a person cannot of known without telescopes which these primative socities did not have.

I'm sure what ever the bible says condemn us to *hell* because of non belief is over exadurated. Like a game of telephone, things are greatly exadurated on purpose. To the point where God is unidentifiable.
To add to the confusion of the previous cultures, Just as the ones before them and so forth.
This only makes life more interesting, there us so much going on in this Universe.

Anyways any modern religions you read mostly talk about respecting your nabours and helping if people are in need, Because one day we will be in need and will want to be respected as well. If we all pitch in, Then it will return to us from someone else who is trying to help. Religion also talks a lot about evil and is over exadurated to the extent of spirits and demons.
Where ones own sins are absolved because of some spirits covenant. Nothing absolves a person from their own sin but themselves, No one writes your life story but you. Running to Jesus saying i'm saved but i can be selfish, inconsiderate, and ignorant of my actions and of other peoples observations and opinions is all good because Jesus died for me.

Stop it please. Your ancestors died and trudged through life and its suffering; Sickness, War, refugee, slave, catastrophies, domestic violence and crime. so that your disrespectful soul could enter into this world. I'm not directing this at the OP. But just anyone reading who this clicks with.

As long as you are a good person then respect is being earned. Creator or otherwise would see this and care not if ye be an Athiest.






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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Indeed. Ya never know.


Love thy neighbor as thyself. Do no harm.

The Golden Rule...



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: Diderot

I think your agnostic... Not an atheist...

Other than that, God Bless you!



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: Diderot
I do not believe in your God.
I do not believe in any god.
I do not claim that God does not exist.
No true scientist would make such a claim.

I am sure, though, that any true God is a perfect God.
This God would be perfect in grace, compassion, and love.
I would be a child of this Father, your Father.

I am far from perfect; I am lazy, conceited, and selfish,
but I am not an evil soul.

God would love me because I love my brothers and sisters.
All of you.


OK, I can go with that.
However, God is also a perfect God.
A perfect God demands perfection.

None of us is perfect.
We cannot be reconciled to a perfect God.
Not without His dispensation.

That requires belief.

So it seems that although you are correct in your logical reasoning that God loves you, you and He are at an impasse because you cannot believe. This means you cannot be reconciled to a perfect God no matter how much He loves you, and make no mistake, He does.
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

"im curious...why one ultimate god, and not ten or twenty?"

The way I see it there is most likely no ultimate god,
or there is most likely not ten or twenty gods.

But then again God is as real as you make Him.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Diderot

I think your agnostic... Not an atheist...

Other than that, God Bless you!


That's because you don't know the real meaning of agnostic.

What agnostic means is god can not be proven or disproven. It does not mean questioning if there is a god or not.

Any honest atheist also considers themself agnostic.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

"As long as you are a good person then respect is being earned. Creator or otherwise would see this and care not if ye be an Athiest."

The very last thing that I would deny is respect to those who deserve it.
All of my brothers and sisters deserve the utmost honor and respect
until their actions prove otherwise.

Your God truly loves a soul that is loving and virtuous.

Virtue is a question of happiness.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: Annee

I know exactly what an agnostic is my friend!

Someone who doesn't claim to know either way...
Such as the op's context put across...

The OP never once said "I believe there is no God"... Which would be atheistic!

The OP said

I do not claim that God does not exist.

And that's not an atheist!


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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

"I think your agnostic... Not an atheist...
Other than that, God Bless you!"

Dear Charlie, thanks for the blessing; it is very well taken.

I do not call myself an agnostic.
I would call myself a virtual atheist.
But I call myself a scientist as well.
I am quite willing to be convinced of God's reality.
I only ask for persuasive evidence.
I am sure that God is not unreasonable.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: Diderot

No problem my friend, may the signs of The Lord reach you soon!



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

"So it seems that although you are correct in your logical reasoning that God loves you, you and He are at an impasse because you cannot believe. This means you cannot be reconciled to a perfect God no matter how much He loves you, and make no mistake, He does."

Hello again ketsuko; it is always a pleasure.

This impasse that you mention is a mere trifle.
As you agree, your God loves me, and I do not take that lightly.
As you acknowledge the perfection of your God,
I acknowledge the love of my family.
And you and I, ketsuko, are children of the same Father.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

"No problem my friend, may the signs of The Lord reach you soon!"

The signs of the Lord are love, respect and admiration.

Though some are undeserving, we must honor our family.

We are all family.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: Diderot

I dig it.. To delve even deeper.. What if "He" is actually a "She"? In ALL My time here I noticed it was the 'Female" that gave Life, and the "male" that took Life. Take this and add the whole entering "Yin, The Devine Feminine" and it puts a new spin on things, is that what needs to be known or does one need to be open to it? Maybe that is why "some" think there is no God, because they're looking for a Man. I mean, many think Jesus had blue eyes and honey brown hair....

Even deeper, what if We were ALL just One person, One "Self" then the adage "Returning from whence We came" would make some sense and if We hook up w/an organized Religion™ then it would be "cents" (¢) and then We could write it off utilizing our Tax-Free status as a Religion™...

I also Love You, the "other Me"...

namaste



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: JimNasium



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 07:34 PM
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You don't sound like an atheist at all. Actually sounds like you're on the right track, if you just lose the "science is the end-all-be-all of existence" tired motif (or what appears to be).

I think some atheists just like to call themselves atheists...




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