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That desperation, need, and work ethic doesn't carry over past 2nd generation --- according to the person being interviewed.
originally posted by: corvuscorrax
a reply to: jjkenobi
Families like yours are exactly what the banking cartels and feds want.
Deeply entrenched in the system and with plenty to lose if you try to get out.
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Annee
That desperation, need, and work ethic doesn't carry over past 2nd generation --- according to the person being interviewed.
Do you actually believe that theory?
If that's true, how does it explain successful 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation family success?
But it could explain many family failures.
At 31 city schools with a combined enrollment of 1,065 black students, none passed the state math exam. At another 28 schools, zero out of 613 Hispanic students passed the math test. State reading exams saw similar results.
originally posted by: Eyemin
"The problem is that they are not involved in the education their kids receive. Maybe its work, or social stress...I dont know or care. If you have kids then YOU must live and die for them."
50 percent drop out rate, I'm telling you, and people in jail, and women having children by five, six different men. Under what excuse, I want somebody to love me, and as soon as you have it, you forget to parent. Grandmother, mother, and great grandmother in the same room, raising children, and the child knows nothing about love or respect of any one of the three of them. All this child knows is “gimme, gimme, gimme.” These people want to buy the friendship of a child....and the child couldn't care less. Those of us sitting out here who have gone on to some college or whatever we've done, we still fear our parents . And these people are not parenting. They're buying things for the kid. $500 sneakers, for what? They won't buy or spend $250 on Hooked on Phonics.
A good prespective..
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: xuenchen
I know a guy whos parents would sit down and do his homework with him EVERYDAY until he graduated college.
He now has a great job and will probably be a freaking millionaire in a decade. Thats the difference.
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
Dont low income earners in the States have to work about 3 jobs to live? do these childrens parents have the time, are they even home to help with homework?
It's so easy to blame parents when kids are at all school for the majority of their time.
Schools are like factories now, teachers have no time or inclination to help struggling children.
originally posted by: Eyemin
a reply to: Tangerine
Read the whole thing... That is why I took the time to link. It is not a gender issue rather a generational issue. But pick a side if you like and and argue points with no meaning so no improvements can be made.
originally posted by: MALBOSIA
Probably lack of attendance. School administrators only demand that students show up a couple days a month to stay enrolled.
originally posted by: Eyemin
You are just mad and antsy and wanted to drag me into a fight. I was more concerned with how children are being raised.
" My criticism was about your glaring omission of men."- If I wanted to omit men... I WOULDN"T HAVE LINKED IT. Take some time and read the whole thing... otherwise quit wasting my time and yours.
"I think it's high time that people who don't have children be rewarded with, for example, tax breaks."
Sorry, but my culture having a family is important.
Here is a link that i am sure you will ignore Tax the Childless.
originally posted by: Eyemin
a reply to: Annee
Close to the same here, after so many late/absent days, a court order is sent to the family. It might be nature vs nurture issue...School vs parents.... or sometimes its just a bad seed...
"Moreover, overpopulation makes life increasingly less pleasant for everyone ."
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originally posted by: tadaman
The problem with education is that you cant blame a school system. Well to a degree.YOU have to be very involved in your kids education. My wife and I home school our kid AFTER regular school. My kid is currently going to school in freaking Mexico. I bet she will incorporate into the American school system without skipping a beat. Its not because the schools are great here....Its because we care and are involved in her education.
originally posted by: Eyemin
a reply to: Tangerine
I am starting to enjoy you...
"In the culture you complained about, having children is important, too."
Again i did not select any people to target, Bill Cosby did. I used his words to speak the point that some times its not the disadvantages of a society that keeps people down... some times its the people. I chose Bill Cosby because he is African American, and since no one here can state my race, i didn't want my words to be skewed making me appear like a racist or even sexist. I wanted to focus on the issue that there are bad parents with a horrible moral compass, and regardless of outside influences sometimes people can't escape the cycle of poverty because of choices they made. However their are children, who do not want to be their mothers 5/6 kid from different dads, but does want to have a chance to escape that hell.
"Don't you think cultural expectations can be and should be changed?" No- The country in which I live everyone is welcome, even those who hate it. It sounds like you wish to force assimilation on a people because you find them in the wrong. What makes you so certain you are the one that is right?
Now to help you make me look like a bad guy I thought I would share this
"Moreover, overpopulation makes life increasingly less pleasant for everyone ."
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You did exactly that which you accused me of doing. That you don't see that makes it unlikely that continuing this exchange will prove rewarding to anyone.