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ISIS video appears to show beheading of US reporter Steven Sotloff

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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation



You realize it is almost 1,300 miles from Mosul to Sumera. They took two cities that far away in 1 day? Nope.



Please check your facts maps of Iraq show that distance of 289 mile about 5hr drive using google maps . A 5 hr drive in a day easy.




posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: AnAbsoluteCreation
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Humans. Insidious creatures.

How does it feel being on the wrong side of human development?

No... It's okay. Don't explain. I understand. You're one of "those."

AAC


I don't feel I'm on the wrong side at all. So you're cool with a group killing thousands and trying to talk it out? Let me know how that works out for you when you head over to discuss it with them.

Violence on this level only respects violence. Hit them with a shot they either can't recover from or will think three times before trying to do it again.

Collateral damage happens in war. That is what everyone IS is killing is...collateral damage for their messed up ideologies.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

I've sifted through several post...honestly, shame on anyone claiming these horrific acts are fake!

What's that about, what would it solve and why?

Some of you need to remove the tin foil hats and put on your thinking caps.





posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Sremmos80

Ummm...no. with IS around they are now either part of them or being killed anyways. You think IS allows those that don't think like them to live peacefully and enjoy their days?



So since they are going to be dead away, or forced to join IS, then it's no problem. Bomb away indiscriminately.
No chance they may be able to survive out side of the two options you give.
Makes all the sense in the world.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:19 PM
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I wonder why so many countries are claiming ISIS is an Israeli and American creation?

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Sremmos80

Ummm...no. with IS around they are now either part of them or being killed anyways. You think IS allows those that don't think like them to live peacefully and enjoy their days?



So since they are going to be dead away, or forced to join IS, then it's no problem. Bomb away indiscriminately.
No chance they may be able to survive out side of the two options you give.
Makes all the sense in the world.


Feel free to give your suggestions.

Yes...bombed out of existence is the quick way to put an end to something that will kill thousands more because of no action.
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: ThePublicEnemyNo1
a reply to: theantediluvian

I've sifted through several post...honestly, shame on anyone claiming these horrific acts are fake!

What's that about, what would it solve and why?

Some of you need to remove the tin foil hats and put on your thinking caps.




Watch the video. There is no violence on it at all. Hence it is not a beheading video.

If these videos are fake, they are being used to gain support of massive amounts of killing.

The media know they can control how a lot of people think, and they use it against them, now more than ever.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: IndieA


Your logic is wrong. Besides nobody lost there head in the Sotloff video. The Foley video showed a man on the ground with a head on his back, but the Sotloff video didn't show any violence at all.


My logic is all wrong? Only if you're suggesting that these men are alive and in ISIS custody and the videos were created to make them appear to be dead. Otherwise, how does it possibly make sense for a capable group of miscreants to fake the incidents and risk the potential of being exposed rather than just doing it for real?

I'm not even offering an opinion as to the motivation or who could or could not be behind it (if there were a conspiracy). I'm just saying why fake something that is not a problem to pull off in reality?
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:23 PM
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At this point, I'm 95% certain these videos are part of a psy-op and probably produced by the CIA or British equivalent.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: IndieA
At this point, I'm 95% certain these videos are part of a psy-op and probably produced by the CIA or British equivalent.


Of course they are..
Their is no evil in the world without the big bad IllumiNSACIAMAsons.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: ThePublicEnemyNo1

If you're looking at the tree, I agree, it seems stupid to consider these things fake. But if you see the Forrest it starts becoming obvious.

ISIS funded by congress.
Destabilization of Middle East falls perfectly into their plans (or why would we be there in first place).
McCain pictured with ISIS leaders.
Support Israel's aim to get America to fight their war against the Islamic world.
Keep the military moving and shaking.
Secures the dollar as international reserve currency and oil trading currency.
Install central banks into the newer installed governments.
Keep people afraid so they give up more freedoms in exchange for security.

The list how on.

Start looking at the Forrest and it will start making more sense.

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:28 PM
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a reply to: IndieA


At this point, I'm 95% certain these videos are part of a psy-op and probably produced by the CIA or British equivalent.

I tend to agree. I heard somewhere they have more journalists lined up. They won't show us the pentagon footage or what happened to Michael Brown on tape, but this beheading thing is front row with all the other ISIS propaganda in the media.

Thats how we know this is preparatory to another invasion or Libya style intervention… probably Syria.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: IndieA


Your logic is wrong. Besides nobody lost there head in the Sotloff video. The Foley video showed a man on the ground with a head on his back, but the Sotloff video didn't show any violence at all.


My logic is all wrong? Only if you're suggesting that these men are alive and in ISIS custody and the videos were created to make them appear to be dead. Otherwise, how does it possibly make sense for a capable group of miscreants to fake the incidents and risk the potential of being exposed rather than just doing it for real?

I'm not even offering an opinion as to the motivation or who could or could not be behind it (if there were a conspiracy). I'm just saying why fake something that is not a problem to pull off in reality?


Why not fake it? I don't think ISIS made those videos anyway. But if they did, why didn't they kill Sotloff on camera then? By your logic they should have.

I wouldn't think miscreants are capable of that level of video production quality.

But like I said, could be CIA, MI6, Mossad, ect. All part of an act to outrage people so they will support more war.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:36 PM
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They are saying that ISIS has 2,000,000 people in a choke hold - the people are going to have to rise up to the occasion. There are enough men in that population to take the terrorist down. The first thing they need to do is drop leaflets telling the people how they have to make a stand - no boots until clean up. Millions upon millions of leaflets. Explain how they can make weapons out of every day things.

If it was my town under siege I would fight back. I got one gun.Lol A browning sweet 16 with a gold trigger, that was my dad's - but I don't have any bullets.

But I could boil a pot of water and throw it.

No tin foil here - but the people have to help themselves.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: Lostinthedarkness
a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation



You realize it is almost 1,300 miles from Mosul to Sumera. They took two cities that far away in 1 day? Nope.



Please check your facts maps of Iraq show that distance of 289 mile about 5hr drive using google maps . A 5 hr drive in a day easy.


Granted, I did type in Sumera Russia. However, driving an army convoy big enough to take a city would not be calculated by google maps.

With that said, still impossible.

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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ISIS no doubt needs to be dealt with and has committed atrocities that INCLUDE beheadings, but these two recent videos are either staged, propaganda, from another 'group' entirely, or are only for PR purposes.

They are not 'beheading' videos.

The question is what ARE they.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

So match their innocent civilian killing with our own innocent civilian killing.

As Bill Clinton recently said, none of this would be happening if we never invaded Iraq. This is all going to plan.

I'll repeat. These ISIS figures we see are being purposely glorified on media to brainwash the public.

What do you think would happen if the media would have followed the grassroots push yo highlight the African Koney situation? The mainstream media refused to highlight it.

There is an agenda being pushed.

We need to pack up our people and leave the Middle East. Period. Problem solved.

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Myrtales Instinct

If this was a real threat that would be a great idea. But it's not. It's not as real as the media says. It's a mirage to incite fear.

Here's the two ways.

1. They are hated there by the people so why don't millions of people just stop a few thousand?

2. If they are wanted there, let the people have them. Problem solved.

But neither of those are being done because this is manufacture chaos.

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: AnAbsoluteCreation
a reply to: ThePublicEnemyNo1

If you're looking at the tree, I agree, it seems stupid to consider these things fake. But if you see the Forrest it starts becoming obvious.

ISIS funded by congress.
Destabilization of Middle East falls perfectly into their plans (or why would we be there in first place).
McCain pictured with ISIS leaders.
Support Israel's aim to get America to fight their war against the Islamic world.
Keep the military moving and shaking.
Secures the dollar as international reserve currency and oil trading currency.
Install central banks into the newer installed governments.
Keep people afraid so they give up more freedoms in exchange for security.

The list how on.

Start looking at the Forrest and it will start making more sense.

AAC


You know since all this ISIS stuff has hit the news, complete with double sensationalist beheadings (strange how there is so much attention all of a sudden), Israel has announced a ceasefire with Palestine (prob to get rid of the global attention/criticism) and proceeded to take more land for settlements. They have also continued arresting more Palestinians with no charges and seem to be carrying on their illegal and racist actions like before.

There is also the conflict escalating in Ukraine.

I've always considered media distraction stories as a possibility, but of course the problem is, what are they distracting from?

Additionally, Dutch Investigators for MH-17 expect some info to be released in the next week but also stressed a full investigation will take a year, I find that very strange also considering all the talk just after it happened.

The ISIS story for me just seems kind of contrived as if it is being thrown at us.


EDIT: And it's reassuring to know I'm not the only one who thinks there's something suspicious about these ISIS presentations

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

Read the huge gains Germany did early in ww2 . And against a regular army. Here you had defectors and deserters and some of the populace welcomed them.

Some I agree with you this point I dont.



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