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ISIS video appears to show beheading of US reporter Steven Sotloff

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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: OptimusCrime

I see your serously lacking in reading comprehension.


I never said one should be banned from going to a high risk country.

We have freedom of travel

BUT

But if ones choses a dangrous place to visit then they need to accept that risk.

Its called personal responsibility.

Yes your free to go were you like, but the risks are down to you and you alone.

And that goes for those Americans, they knew the risk of going to syria.

As for ant American? Really cause I disagree with you? Cause im not for indicriminate carpet bombing?


And not here to talk about ISIS and the topic? Well geeze you must have failed reading as thats what im going on about.
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

Uhhh, yeah. I'm talking about end-times stuff. Now SISI on the other hand is trying to help usher in their end-time prophecy that think will happen sometime between 2016 and 2020. You do realize that SISI has about $2 billion in assets. That's a whole lot of terror.


Did you learn that on WIKIPEDIA ?

I would be more concerned with looking at ISRAEL and the end time ushering in they are CONSTANTLY working on.

But the fact that the Bible claims False Prophets (Christian Preachers) that will fool everyone, now that is the wrong way of looking at things, better just to focus on Islam, the sacrificial side of things.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Zedux

So you don't think they did it?
So ISIS isn't going around killing loads of people are they?
The Christians on the mountain? all a set up?.
I find this place sickening sometimes.
If you look you will find the video or photos I did and I will not tarnish the guys memory by even denying it even happened.
Pfft shame on many here.
You know many denied that the nazis gassed the jews also....


Wow, so because people doubt THESE TWO videos, you straw man and spin into accusations that we think ISIS is some innocent boy scout outfit, and the Holocaust comes in??????



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: SensiblyReckless
Let me guess, it was filmed in glorious HD using an expensive, professional camera, with professional editing techniques which just so happen to edit out the actual beheading, just like the Foley video.

Seems legit.


What's the conspiracy angle? Do you think that a clandestine agency that would create that video would bother making a fake just to spare the life of one person? Even if the Syrians or the CIA were behind the videos, they'd have no trouble rounding up somebody willing to cut somebody else's head off on video. As for the production quality — it's 2014 — nothing particularly remarkable about it.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: finitedualities
Reading the first page of comments is actually embarrassing. Of all the places on the Internet, I figured this site would see through how FAKE the videos have been immediately. Shocking is an understatement to see the same 'MURICA KILL THEM ALL THEY ARE SUBHUMAN AND WE SHOULD USE NUKES comments here. So many feeble minds disconnected from humanity and reality. It's a sad time we live in.


Yeah, seeing posts like this makes me feel better after reading page one. Some of those people are heavy ATSers too. It's amazing the s--t the media is trying to pull. The US is in such a sad state and has been for a long time, it's just getting so much worst. ATS has seen better days as well.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: wulff

"A few hundred?" Try 10K plus! Briton alone said they know of 500 British citizens fighting for ISIS.
We had a perfect chance to wipe these pigs out when they were crossing the desert, B52 carpet bombing would have saved a lot of lives!




How do they know this, Facebook? Twitter? Beheadings on Instagram ?????



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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Glass the whole region. Nothing good will come from a long costly war and it will send a message. Yeah...i know...stupid American right? Nope...we all seem to get along pretty well here....can't recall the last time we had a gang rolling through atlanta beheading people. Screw IS....glass the region and be done with it.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Yup screw all those people that have nothing to do with ISIS and just kill everybody there!
They deserve it for being around them!

They are all a bunch of west hating american killing muslism's anyway right?



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: OptimusCrime

You have been off-topic the entire thread, claiming all along that we need to believe every dam thing we see on the internet that supports your claims of who we need to fear, and destroy.

Perhaps you actually fully believe that these people need you to bomb them out of existence, much like they believe they need to goad you into doing it to them.

All of these roads , are not being controlled by anyone who actually cares for you, but you do not care.

Time for the foolish to meet the reason, that they are fooled.



Yes, I believe ISIS needs to be bombed out of existence. That's the point of this topic, what has to be done to stop ISIS. Now, you can come up with all your crazy theories you want. Have at it.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Glass the whole region. Nothing good will come from a long costly war and it will send a message. Yeah...i know...stupid American right? Nope...we all seem to get along pretty well here....can't recall the last time we had a gang rolling through atlanta beheading people. Screw IS....glass the region and be done with it.



So you will condem millions of civilians to die over 2 dead Americans that WILLINGLY took the risk to travel OUTSIDE the USA into a high risk ME warzone?


Logic like that makes you as bad as ISIS



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: SensiblyReckless
Let me guess, it was filmed in glorious HD using an expensive, professional camera, with professional editing techniques which just so happen to edit out the actual beheading, just like the Foley video.

Seems legit.


What's the conspiracy angle? Do you think that a clandestine agency that would create that video would bother making a fake just to spare the life of one person? Even if the Syrians or the CIA were behind the videos, they'd have no trouble rounding up somebody willing to cut somebody else's head off on video. As for the production quality — it's 2014 — nothing particularly remarkable about it.


Your logic is wrong. Besides nobody lost there head in the Sotloff video. The Foley video showed a man on the ground with a head on his back, but the Sotloff video didn't show any violence at all.

They could all be CIA, even the reporters.

All an operation to offend American's and raise support for more spending on bombs and murder. It's that simple and that easy. Nobody actually has to die, if it's not necessary.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Humans. Insidious creatures.

How does it feel being on the wrong side of human development?

No... It's okay. Don't explain. I understand. You're one of "those."

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Zedux

So you don't think they did it?
So ISIS isn't going around killing loads of people are they?
The Christians on the mountain? all a set up?.
I find this place sickening sometimes.
If you look you will find the video or photos I did and I will not tarnish the guys memory by even denying it even happened.
Pfft shame on many here.
You know many denied that the nazis gassed the jews also....



We are more concerned with the TOTAL LACK OF PROOF, who the hell cares if anyone THINKS something has happened.

Too much TV and CNN,BBC,Whatever else......you cannot see that this is disturbing just BLINDLY BELIEVING that you KNOW what is going on. ??

Tarnishing memories, how about falling for lies so that ALL of our memories, and current existence STAYS TARNISHED.

I can guarantee that everyone of you fell for 9/11 and everything else that fits into the paradigms you believe are yours.

When you finally realize what is going on, (If you do), who will care , it will be far too late then.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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That FACT remains that there was NO beheading in the Foley video or this. You can be outraged all you want, but your outrage is at something that has ZERO evidence of happening, in THAT video, in that shot.

So the question remains why these two videos show no blood and appear staged. #1

#2 Is why in the entire Levant region, with all our European allies, with Israel, with our Arabian/Mid Eastern partners, and in all of NATO....NOBODY has shown up to really fight these guys.

#3 Why Israel which is right next door under 300 miles away, has not been attacked yet by any weaponry that ISIS is claimed to have. Why no guerrilla tactic has been used to gain entry through Syria or Lebanon.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

It was claimed by Syria that james a Foley died a year ago. And this was one of the original mock ups.

Not everything is black and white.

AAC.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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Mt man, you've reigned enough hell over the decades to make the actual underworld seem more habitable.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
#3 Why Israel which is right next door under 300 miles away, has not been attacked yet by any weaponry that ISIS is claimed to have. Why no guerrilla tactic has been used to gain entry through Syria or Lebanon.


I see conspiracy people pointing to this as some indication of something vs IS realize that Israel actually have a military that would decimate them if they tried anything. It's much easier to pick on villagers and small towns without adequate means to defend themselves .



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Ummm...no. with IS around they are now either part of them or being killed anyways. You think IS allows those that don't think like them to live peacefully and enjoy their days?



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Glass the whole region. Nothing good will come from a long costly war and it will send a message. Yeah...i know...stupid American right? Nope...we all seem to get along pretty well here....can't recall the last time we had a gang rolling through atlanta beheading people. Screw IS....glass the region and be done with it.



So you will condem millions of civilians to die over 2 dead Americans that WILLINGLY took the risk to travel OUTSIDE the USA into a high risk ME warzone?


Logic like that makes you as bad as ISIS


Ummm...nope. IS is either making people join or killing those that dont. And no....condemning over the thousands they have killed.

Seems like nobody there has the balls to fight them....sorry but if IS rolled into my neighborhood, while they would most likely be able to kill everyone, you better believe I won't lay down my weapon and hope they just let me live....that is retarded.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

Why did you decide to make fun of me? Wikipedia? Uhhh no.

I don't know what's going on with ATS nowadays, but it seems evety post I write results in a personal attack. And that's the other thing, it seems most replies on these threads are to belittle, denigrate, make fun of, call names, demonize with no attempt of clarifying or refuting with facts. Even worse; I've noticed more than a few mods joining in. Keep going ATS and you'll part and parcel with GLP!
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