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ISIS video appears to show beheading of US reporter Steven Sotloff

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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thats what I specculated in this thread.

So this incident I just peeped on Fox News with this slimy neocon all of a sudden throwing in “attack Syria along with ISIS” is evidence on the side of the conspiracy theorist who say ISIS is probably infiltrated and exists on one level at least to get the US involved in attacking Syria, of course with the side business of taking out Assad as well.

You see folks we are experiencing before our eyes some truth.

That’s why I always advocate keeping an open mind somewhat.
Nothing wrong with having a perspective but always keep an eye open for greater truth

Now obviously Obama is in a quandary because in his cabinet they probably are having a fight of the neocons versus some other group. The “other group” may be too moderate and the neocons want to kill everybody, ISIS and Assad, a deranged methodology

I hope its someone telling Obama to take my strategy that is a temporary alliance with Assad just to ice ISIS.

Bottom line...Obama gotta get some balls, something that may not be possible.




posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: kx12x

It is certainly true Turkey has a lot of slime in this mess.
Thats why I POSTED THAT OBAMA SHOULD TELL TURKEY
BEHAVE OR YOU GET KICKED OUT OF NATO

The Turks are a sneaky slimy lot

Unfortunately Obama hasn't got the balls to do any of this.

I said long ago Obama is the kind of guy who when he was young always ran away from a fight ....When he and his buddies were jumped. He didnt stay and fight he ran like a coward

He is not from the street
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: 18731542


Need a coalition from Jordon, Syria, Iran and Iraq


That would be a start. People react because a second American died. Let us not forget that there are now threats to a British citizen and also the fact that a Kurdish soldier had the same fate a couple of weeks ago.

This isn't an American problem. It isn't a British or a Turkish problem. It is a global problem.

A coalition indeed. Every country out there claiming to be civilized should be part of it.

Then locate, target, secure the civilians and eradicate. From the air, from the sea and on the ground. The simple demonstration of a full on global armada going in to secure the IS invaded areas would have those Islamic States cowards take their masks off and crawl back in the holes where they came out from.

But I won't be holding my breath...



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

And it is this kind of thinking that turns the world against Israel just as foretold in the Bible.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: SonoftheSun

The problem it turns out is over Syria.
Some neocons want Obama to do a side war against Assad.

Obama, rightly, thinks that is crazy and is too stupid or wimpy to tell them to go to hell

I don't know which one or maybe both or maybe he is scared.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I think all of us are getting sucked up in the first couple layers of this...

Don't forget about ole Brzezinski..

I reckon they got the long game in play right now that is something noone is talking about.

I've heard a couple Isis people say that they will kill all Russians as well as Americans.... Maybe they take a little right turn instead of a left and give them hell???

I'm trying to read between the lines on this one. Obama golfing tells me "don't worry I got this" kinda the same message ole geedubya used to try to send cutting wood on the ranch all stetsonesque. I feel like obammer has something up his sleeve yet.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

They will never align with Assad because the entire purpose and creation of ISIS was to overthrow him. That failed and now the Neo con elite are re strategizing. They want Assad out. Israel's grievance with Syria All goes back to the Yom Kippur war but that is another story.

You're familiar with the fact that us congress gave ISIS 500 million to topple Assad last year and failed, right? This money went to black ops.

There is a reason all of their faces are covered. It's not to protect their identity from arrest or apprehension, but from identifying them as double agents.

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: SonoftheSun

This will never happen because many countries understand ISIS is a western creation.

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Freenrgy2

They are using the bible to implement their agenda. It's Funny. Not really.

But just so you know, nations have been against Israel and Jews for thousands of years, so that's no prophecy.

AAC



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: DrMescalito

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: DrMescalito

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Willtell
Obama’s got to be a man now.
He has go ahead and make a deal with Assad.
Draw them other Arabs in and Turkey and if they don’t come along then cut em off of military assistance.
Then get NATO along and
WIPE ISIS OUT!

If not then Obama should
RESIGN

This isn't happening in America so why should he resign? Why can't people get it through their heads that these nations have to deal with their own problems. You and others like you that are so deadset getting more Americans killed fighting another war that we shouldn't be fighting should be forced to be on the front lines in the fighting.


Because they're killing every American they can get their hands on, as well as every christian, and cutting their heads off on TV. Obama can give aid to every third wold country, but can't protect our people. Just like Libya.


Who is our people?


The people of the United States, you know, the country he's supposed to the President of.


ISIS aren't beheading people in the united states, that is Obama's job, his job isn't to police American citizens
in terrorist lands. Though I would respect him more if he did.


His job is to protect American interest and citizens wherever they may be and if they're being targeted by any group, to give orders to erase certain group. We've had plenty of Americans killed with these people basically telling is to go F our sisters by posting it on the internet for all to see.

This is not the first instance and by the looks of it, Obama will let it continue.


So basicaly your saying Americans afe special and deserve special treatment outside the USA?

Screw that.

You leave your home country your subject to the laws, customs, rights and risks of the country of travel.

Dont like it?

Dont travel.


For one, for you to tell anyone not to travel is beyond asinine. And, two, when Americans are being directly attacked and killed, as well as threatened, then yes, we kill those people first and protect Americans alike.

This is not the first time Americans have been killed and it won't be the last. But, to kill us and then tell us you're going to kill more, then you're getting eradicated, hate to tell you.

Why are you coming off so angry?

Edit to add:

You got me off topic so I'll get back on topic here. If ISIS continues to kill Americans, or anyone of our allies people then we should act and end their lives, plain and simple. These people are there causing no harm and they're killing their own people by the masses that are not Muslim. If you can take their side on this, that says a lot about you. I could probably track your IP right back to some dirt hole in Iraq with the rest of ISIS.
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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We are at the root of what Obama is dealing with in his waiting period to do a "strategy."

He is obviously being jammed up and pressured by more than one side.

This neocon I saw tonight told me a hellava lot something I was always open to but of course we don’t really KNOW unless we are in on these secret meetings.

Different power groups are on Obama something fierce.

He needs to be told by someone in his inner group what to do.

No legitimate military or political advisor would EVER tell one to fight two wars at once

That’s NEVER done, and when it is like Hitler did...the result is disaster

So we have a key here a political cipher:

Any advisor, writer, columnist, oped writer or whatever who you see talking about “we have to get Syria too" is an enemy of America and trying to lead us down further into hell.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

Uhhh, yeah. I'm talking about end-times stuff. Now SISI on the other hand is trying to help usher in their end-time prophecy that think will happen sometime between 2016 and 2020. You do realize that SISI has about $2 billion in assets. That's a whole lot of terror.
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:25 PM
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Let me guess, it was filmed in glorious HD using an expensive, professional camera, with professional editing techniques which just so happen to edit out the actual beheading, just like the Foley video.

Seems legit.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: xavi1000
It's time Obama to activate all drones , seals and all technology and destroy ISIS once for all and i dont care for collateral damage and civilians.


This is EXACTLY the reaction this whole thing was tailor-made to create.

I've seen the Sotloff video and it's exactly the same drill as the Foley video.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: DrMescalito

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: DrMescalito

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Willtell
Obama’s got to be a man now.
He has go ahead and make a deal with Assad.
Draw them other Arabs in and Turkey and if they don’t come along then cut em off of military assistance.
Then get NATO along and
WIPE ISIS OUT!

If not then Obama should
RESIGN

This isn't happening in America so why should he resign? Why can't people get it through their heads that these nations have to deal with their own problems. You and others like you that are so deadset getting more Americans killed fighting another war that we shouldn't be fighting should be forced to be on the front lines in the fighting.


Because they're killing every American they can get their hands on, as well as every christian, and cutting their heads off on TV. Obama can give aid to every third wold country, but can't protect our people. Just like Libya.


Who is our people?


The people of the United States, you know, the country he's supposed to the President of.


ISIS aren't beheading people in the united states, that is Obama's job, his job isn't to police American citizens
in terrorist lands. Though I would respect him more if he did.


His job is to protect American interest and citizens wherever they may be and if they're being targeted by any group, to give orders to erase certain group. We've had plenty of Americans killed with these people basically telling is to go F our sisters by posting it on the internet for all to see.

This is not the first instance and by the looks of it, Obama will let it continue.


So basicaly your saying Americans afe special and deserve special treatment outside the USA?

Screw that.

You leave your home country your subject to the laws, customs, rights and risks of the country of travel.

Dont like it?

Dont travel.


For one, for you to tell anyone not to travel is beyond asinine. And, two, when Americans are being directly attacked and killed, as well as threatened, then yes, we kill those people first and protect Americans alike.

This is not the first time Americans have been killed and it won't be the last. But, to kill us and then tell us you're going to kill more, then you're getting eradicated, hate to tell you.

Why are you coming off so angry?

Edit to add:

You got me off topic so I'll get back on topic here. If ISIS continues to kill Americans, or anyone of our allies people then we should act and end their lives, plain and simple. These people are there causing no harm and they're killing their own people by the masses that are not Muslim. If you can take their side on this, that says a lot about you. I could probably track your IP right back to some dirt hole in Iraq with the rest of ISIS.


I never said you cant travel.

What I said is you willingly take what ever risks come with visiting another country.

Dont want to take the risk dont go there, stay at home or go somewhere safer. Either way you have a choice.


And no I dont support ISIS i think they are sick SOB

But its not worth starting a war on or commiting mass genocide in the ME like some on here are suggesting over two who willingly travelled into a danger zone.

The ME is not my problem. Not unless they commit a attack on my countrys soil and font see why the USA is diffrent,
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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Reading the first page of comments is actually embarrassing. Of all the places on the Internet, I figured this site would see through how FAKE the videos have been immediately. Shocking is an understatement to see the same 'MURICA KILL THEM ALL THEY ARE SUBHUMAN AND WE SHOULD USE NUKES comments here. So many feeble minds disconnected from humanity and reality. It's a sad time we live in.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: DrMescalito

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: DrMescalito

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Willtell
Obama’s got to be a man now.
He has go ahead and make a deal with Assad.
Draw them other Arabs in and Turkey and if they don’t come along then cut em off of military assistance.
Then get NATO along and
WIPE ISIS OUT!

If not then Obama should
RESIGN

This isn't happening in America so why should he resign? Why can't people get it through their heads that these nations have to deal with their own problems. You and others like you that are so deadset getting more Americans killed fighting another war that we shouldn't be fighting should be forced to be on the front lines in the fighting.


Because they're killing every American they can get their hands on, as well as every christian, and cutting their heads off on TV. Obama can give aid to every third wold country, but can't protect our people. Just like Libya.


Who is our people?


The people of the United States, you know, the country he's supposed to the President of.


ISIS aren't beheading people in the united states, that is Obama's job, his job isn't to police American citizens
in terrorist lands. Though I would respect him more if he did.


His job is to protect American interest and citizens wherever they may be and if they're being targeted by any group, to give orders to erase certain group. We've had plenty of Americans killed with these people basically telling is to go F our sisters by posting it on the internet for all to see.

This is not the first instance and by the looks of it, Obama will let it continue.


So basicaly your saying Americans afe special and deserve special treatment outside the USA?

Screw that.

You leave your home country your subject to the laws, customs, rights and risks of the country of travel.

Dont like it?

Dont travel.


For one, for you to tell anyone not to travel is beyond asinine. And, two, when Americans are being directly attacked and killed, as well as threatened, then yes, we kill those people first and protect Americans alike.

This is not the first time Americans have been killed and it won't be the last. But, to kill us and then tell us you're going to kill more, then you're getting eradicated, hate to tell you.

Why are you coming off so angry?

Edit to add:

You got me off topic so I'll get back on topic here. If ISIS continues to kill Americans, or anyone of our allies people then we should act and end their lives, plain and simple. These people are there causing no harm and they're killing their own people by the masses that are not Muslim. If you can take their side on this, that says a lot about you. I could probably track your IP right back to some dirt hole in Iraq with the rest of ISIS.


I never said you cant travel.

What I said is you willingly take what ever risks come with visiting another country.

Dont want to take the risk dont go there, stay at home or go somewhere safer. Either way you have a choice.


And no I dont support ISIS i think they are sick SOB

But its not worth starting a war on or commiting mass genocide i the ME like sime on here are suggesting over two who willingly travelled into a danger zone.

The ME is not my problem. Not unless they commit a attack on my countrys soil and font see why the USA is diffrent,


Then I guess the US should stop allowing everyone of ME decent into America? Is that your suggestion? I mean, it works both ways right?

Well we won't do that and we shouldn't. I've read through your posts and you're nothing more than a hater of the United States. That's the problem here. You're not here to talk about ISIS beheading someone, you're here to bash the U.S. and I'm not getting into that argument with you, I'm staying on topic.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
I've seen stills of ISIS beheadings, they're definitely real and do exist, and they're gruesome and shocking.

When the Foley video came out a couple weeks ago I made myself analyze the video to see if the rumors about 'fakery' were true. I zoomed in on stills, inverted colorization, bumped all thresholds to maximum, colorized every image to see any deviation. After 6 'slacks' of the knife there was no blood and no cut. Nothing.

I even took a still of a restored image just before the fade to black and there was nothing. The Foley video was NOT a 'beheading" video.

And now people are saying that THIS video was produced in the same manner, with no blood.

I believe ISIS needs to be defeated. But if we're going to base our rage off of videos, can we at least verify that the videos are what they are being PURPORTED to be? Why are we as Americans so duped into war at every turn? Are we so ready to go kick some *** that we forget people LIE? That Government and media CAN and DO consort to enlist propaganda for a reaction?

Have we lost all skepticism?


Ahhh, they have no idea in the WORLD why they want to go to war so badly.

These people Want, NEED, DESPERATELY for this to be true, to give some meaning and something to cheer for since they are so powerless to actually even pretend they could do something meaningful in the world.

They can cheer for the God's powers to reign down on all those they claim are the enemy, whilst forgetting ON PURPOSE, that they are completely and utterly deceived, and will be taken down a road , that THIS TIME, will not be returning from.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:41 PM
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a reply to: SensiblyReckless

I know, right. The video is being reported as a beheading video but there is no beheading or murder on the video. They are reporting that this man has been murdered based on the video, but the video shows no such thing.

Also Sotloff seems very composed for a man in his supposed situation. Did you notice the multiple camera angles and clip on mic?

Holy shills on page one. That and people that don't research things on their own. The "we can't watch the video , because it's what they want" people. PAY ATTENTION to what is going on. TPTB helped create ISIS with your tax dollars and now they want more of our money to spend on more bombs and murder. And they will keep the conflict going as long as possible, like so many other wars, while feeding the war machine with our money and blood.

Even if these reporters are dead, the media is using these videos to raise support for going to war. An act which will lead to countless deaths, not just one or two.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: OptimusCrime

You have been off-topic the entire thread, claiming all along that we need to believe every dam thing we see on the internet that supports your claims of who we need to fear, and destroy.

Perhaps you actually fully believe that these people need you to bomb them out of existence, much like they believe they need to goad you into doing it to them.

All of these roads , are not being controlled by anyone who actually cares for you, but you do not care.

Time for the foolish to meet the reason, that they are fooled.



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